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Apply before 2 years? No, it would actually be met by the department with extreme spectism to be honest. You have no business applying until you can substanitally provide documentary evidence of your relationship for these periods.robbie123 wrote:Hi,
I'd like to ask a few questions on a de facto relationship application.
At the end of June I will be in a relationship with my partner (Brazilian) for 2 years and we'd like to apply for de facto status. His student visa will expire in mid July (after 3 years, and so is unlikely to be extended any further).
Q1: Is it acceptable to apply for de facto status prior to the 2 years (e.g. send the application in May).
Q2: If the assessment process runs past his student visa deadline, is there a way for him to extend his visa while awaiting a decision?
Any information or tips would be really gratefully received,
Thanks,
Rob
Answer: NO, if u r Irish citizen the relationship should last at least 2 years prior to proceed with the application and if u r from rest of the EU member states the relationship should last 4 years. So don't make a mistake to apply before 2 years, ur application would be refused.Is it acceptable to apply for de facto status prior to the 2 years (e.g. send the application in May).
The new law for student would effect the people who are living in Ireland more than 7 years. u mentioned that ur bf is here 3 years now, so he can extend his student visa as usual by taking admission in a good course. and later this year u can apply for defacto but make sure support ur defacto application by as much as possible ways. like joint bank statment, utility bills, landlord letter, reference from mutual friends, picture, holidays booking, etc etc
of course it is . if you you married you would be expected, for most part, live together. de facto family means that you are act like a married couple.different story if ye had a child but couple are separated.what about utility bills,joint bank a/c,joint health insurance etc?robbie123 wrote:Thanks for that,
I was also wondering, is co-habitation a necessary requirement to be granted de facto status?
The reason for this question is we have cohabited from almost the start of the relationship, but it's a little difficult to prove as the mortgage and bills have remained in my name for a long time after the start of the relationship.
thanks,
jesus h christ. the requirements are 3 or 4 full years before making the application.if op does what you suggest, it will not be considered.i really hope you read instructions when working electronics etc.yes you are right there is time flexibility eg serious joint financial commitments or child. but there is nothing given by op to merit it,yet.it would be a joke to the institution of marriage.ireland is only recognising de facto only recently. op should hang on and strengthen their caseImmigrationLawyer wrote:Does the OP have evidence of joint finances with partner? Personally I would recommend applying now, giving plenty of time before the student visa expires. Put in photographs, statements from your family and friends, and a declaration from each of you as to the relationship history. Joint finances would be useful. These cases are discretionary, as I understand it there is a degree of flexibility as to the time you have actually lived together.
Seeing you are a lawyer (Yes lawyer can mean anything, here it would suggest barrister or solicitor), sure wouldn't it be in your interest to wrongly advise them to make an application anyway (open more files and clients, and get money even if cases are sH*te. You one of those who promise the sun, moon statrs?0 sure you get paid either way? I suppose you would advise to send in citizenship applications 4 months before the statutory eligibilty date too? You are definitely not a practising lawyer if you are asking that question. Even you confirmed that it would not be wise to make the application yet.ImmigrationLawyer wrote:With respect to you WG, I understand you're not working in the Dept of Justice any more - and certianly not in this section of INIS, so how would you know what their attitude will be? You should take advice from people on this forum who have personal experience of the system - either acting for themselves or on behalf of others. Most people know not to believe everything written on the INIS website!
well done!ImmigrationLawyer wrote:Well now you have!!! I have done this and the application was successful.have yet to see anyone on this thread say, "yes, i made the application with 1-2 months short of the date and I still got a postive decision".
that is pretty good stuff as it is. solid financial committment ie buying flights, travelling over to their country. as much as possible, any thing to prove relationshiprobbie123 wrote:thanks Walrusgumble,
we now have joint bank account, utility bills and health insurance, but only since the start of 2011...
we have lots of photographs showing us on holidays in Brazil and other places that date back a long way... I could also show flight bookings paid for from my card, but for him... maybe that would help. As I said in another post, it will be no problem to get numerous letters from family/friends to testify to our relationship. If there is anything I'm missing, I'd appreciate a pointer...
Thanks everyone,