Plane Ticket Cost

AzimScot · Post by **AzimScot** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:03 am

Hi,

When someone is being deported back to their home country under the order of police/home office as there case for domestic violence is refused who is responsible for the cost of the plane ticket the sponsor? What if the sponsor withdraws sponsorship before they order the plane ticket?

Thanks.

terriblescream · Post by **terriblescream** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:35 am

The expense of ticket would be upon State of Secretary if the person himself/sponsor doesnt buy the ticket and the ban imposed on the deportee would be longer(If applicable).

AzimScot · Post by **AzimScot** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:47 am

When individuals are sent back to their home countries due to a failed case are they taken through the deportation process I understand the HO hire a private jet to escort them or is this for criminals?

Post by **Greenie** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:56 am

AzimScot wrote:When individuals are sent back to their home countries due to a failed case are they taken through the deportation process I understand the HO hire a private jet to escort them or is this for criminals?

I have to ask this question again. Why are you asking all of these questions? How does it have any effect on you and your friend how his estranged wife leaves the UK if he doesn't have to pay for the ticket-which he doesn't. is it so that you/your friend can try to scare the wife into withdrawing her complaint for fear of being 'deported like a criminal'?

Post by **Casa** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:53 am

A private jet to escort them? It's not April 1st is it?

AzimScot · Post by **AzimScot** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:13 am

I have to ask this question again. Why are you asking all of these questions? How does it have any effect on you and your friend how his estranged wife leaves the UK if he doesn't have to pay for the ticket-which he doesn't. is it so that you/your friend can try to scare the wife into withdrawing her complaint for fear of being 'deported like a criminal'?

I understand that sponsors have full financial responsibilities on maintenance and accommodation of the individual, if he/she cannot support themselves in Britain, which is the case here. I am the sponsor, so I will have to burden the cost for her expenses isn't that the case? I understand from someone that the home office buys the plane ticket, which could possibly be in thousands, as they use private planes to escort accompanied by 2 officers to ensure they return home safely. They then send you an invoice of the bill outstanding?

A private jet to escort them? It's not April 1st is it?

No, its the 20th of April look at your system clock bottom right hand corner of your monitor you see it see it.

Also see this:- http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 73711.html

Post by **Greenie** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:05 am

AzimScot wrote:
I understand that sponsors have full financial responsibilities on maintenance and accommodation of the individual, if he/she cannot support themselves in Britain, which is the case here. I am the sponsor, so I will have to burden the cost for her expenses isn't that the case? I understand from someone that the home office buys the plane ticket, which could possibly be in thousands, as they use private planes to escort accompanied by 2 officers to ensure they return home safely. They then send you an invoice of the bill outstanding?

A private jet to escort them? It's not April 1st is it?
No, its the 20th of April look at your system clock bottom right hand corner of your monitor you see it see it.

Also see this:- http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 73711.html

your wife has ILR and therefore you are no longer her sponsor, if she leaves you then she has ILR and can remain here indefinitely.

They do charter planes but only usually when they have a large number of people from the same country to fly back at the same time, and when all of those people do not go voluntarily. Not all people who are sent back are escorted and not all go on chartered flights. It depends on the circumstances. Either way it has no effect on the person who originally sponsored them. They don't invoice the sponsor for the flight. If they did don't you think there would be people on here complaining about it!

Your friends wife has left him. He can inform the home office that the relationship is over. That's it.

Post by **Casa** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:47 am

I'm losing patience with this. Quote 'I am the sponsor'.AzimScot..which are the true facts? This is your own situation or as you've previously stated you're asking 'for a friend'?[/b]

Post by **batleykhan** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:30 pm

Why cant people just write things truthfully when they come here for advice.Its not as though someone from UKBA are reading these and will pounce on them if they explain their full facts when making an inquiry.

If you don't ask and give full facts of your circumstances, you could possibly receive wrong advice/suggestions/ideas. That may have major implications.

So come on Azim Scott, come out with full facts if you want proper advice based on yours/your friends exact circumstances.

terriblescream · Post by **terriblescream** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:15 pm

batleykhan wrote:Why cant people just write things truthfully when they come here for advice.Its not as though someone from UKBA are reading these and will pounce on them if they explain their full facts when making an inquiry.

If you don't ask and give full facts of your circumstances, you could possibly receive wrong advice/suggestions/ideas. That may have major implications.

So come on Azim Scott, come out with full facts if you want proper advice based on yours/your friends exact circumstances.

Indeed very true, people here are hiding facts and pretending to be someone asking help for 3rd party!!

Real people show up pls

AzimScot · Post by **AzimScot** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:41 pm

your wife has ILR and therefore you are no longer her sponsor, if she leaves you then she has ILR and can remain here indefinitely.

They do charter planes but only usually when they have a large number of people from the same country to fly back at the same time, and when all of those people do not go voluntarily. Not all people who are sent back are escorted and not all go on chartered flights. It depends on the circumstances. Either way it has no effect on the person who originally sponsored them. They don't invoice the sponsor for the flight. If they did don't you think there would be people on here complaining about it!

Your friends wife has left him. He can inform the home office that the relationship is over. That's it.

Yes, my wife has but my brothers wife doesn't. Great information regarding the flight thanks. I guess you have a point about people complaining about it just wanted to make sure.

I'm losing patience with this. Quote 'I am the sponsor'.AzimScot..which are the true facts? This is your own situation or as you've previously stated you're asking 'for a friend'?

Brothers wife I put in I as I thought I would get the answer without the hassle of getting a 3rd part to write in who knows nothing about computers and is incapable of such conversations.

sunmoon · Post by **sunmoon** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:15 am

Don't know why we all wasting our time responding his post, as we all know what kind of funny comments he was making about ILR postal application during his wife ILR. "Postal Application is Suicide!!! " you can get Divorce because of Postal application!!! etc. etc. We all have read this kind of comments from him and now new funny query. Don't really know what to comment.

AzimScot · Post by **AzimScot** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:36 am

Well there was nothing funny about it. Reality is laws with the home office are changing daily and by the time they process it depending on workload the law will probably change. They won't go for the old law or fees it would be the new fees/law.

Post by **Casa** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:10 am

It's been explained over and over again. Last time: If the application (including payment) is correct, the fee will remain as it was on the date it was submitted, regardless of a change in the regulations.

AzimScot · Post by **AzimScot** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:09 pm

Can you point me to a rule where it mentions this as I submitted the correct fee at the time of application where it changed at time of processing by the adviser, also the form version changed as well which invalidated my application and documents sent back with the letter stating that.

Post by **PaperPusher** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:01 pm

AzimScot wrote:Can you point me to a rule where it mentions this as I submitted the correct fee at the time of application where it changed at time of processing by the adviser, also the form version changed as well which invalidated my application and documents sent back with the letter stating that.

Having your form with an immigration advisor is not UKBA's fault. It is up to an advisor to advise you that there is a new form and fee increase and arrange for you to sign the new form before it gets sent off and sort out the increased fee.

sunmoon · Post by **sunmoon** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:34 pm

Casa wrote:It's been explained over and over again. Last time: If the application (including payment) is correct, the fee will remain as it was on the date it was submitted, regardless of a change in the regulations.

@Casa and PaperPusher... I guess there is no point of telling him the UKBA rules about submitting a visa application. He didn't accepts it in the past, not accepting now and will not accept in the future. Probably lack of understanding or probably " a little learning is dangerous ".

AzimScot · Post by **AzimScot** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:42 pm

Well i confirmed with the adviser I had the latest version and I triple checked the version and the fee and it got rejected as a new one came out 2 months after I posted my application.

Post by **Casa** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:17 pm

But your application was rejected due to the fact that the Home Office say you didn't include the payment page with your application, making it void.
This resulted in you having to pay the increased fee when you re-submitted it...which is why I've said that as long as an application is deemed valid the fee stays at the level it was when the application was sent.

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