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Glauco wrote:Why in the hell you would apply with a document lost/stolen? Well, if it was lost or stolen you wouldn't have this with you in the first place!
Home Office is correct to further investigate this as this looks completely dodgy!
Not sure why you say this? What is the least bit difficult or suspicious in what I suggested?koded wrote:I think both of you are making things more difficult and suspicious. If your wife’s passport was retained by HO why would she go ahead to do a new passport when she her passport is still with HO.
Also, she should have informed her embassy when she found her passport before you lodged your application.
Of course, you can reapply for RC and inform them that your passport is with them and that your wife has obtained a new passport. But you must be very lucky for home office to process your application without going through difficulties with them.
so if they receieve a new application with a new passport with a cover letter wont that satisify them?Glauco wrote:There was a show on TV the other day showing people using stolen passports to apply for dependent visa - ie: they stole passports in Spain and applied as married of the person who had the passport stolen in the UK.
Then the person who lost the passport in Portugal, Spain etc doesn't even know that their identity is being used to apply for a dependent visa for someone unknown. Hence the UKBA beins suspicious on this as this is becoming a common crime.
I'm sure your case will take some time to get solved as I'm sure Home Office will investigate this further just to make sure.
Well, I don’t know what you don’t understand in what I said. HO is retaining a passport which was reported missing and the wife has to go to her country to get a new passport even when her previous passport is still valid. I presume her embassy in UK would not want to issue a new passport if she should have applied for new passport knowing that her passport was retained by UK authority. It is like having two passports at the same time. I don’t know if that is allowed.Not sure why you say this? What is the least bit difficult or suspicious in what I suggested?
No she made a new passport cuz she was on holiday at that moment and i told her to do a new passport cuz they seized the passports and we didnt know how long it will take to get the passport back from HO so we thought it is easier to do a new one.is there any difference from getting the passport from the embassy in uk and in getting it in portugal? since there is a new valid passport will their be a problem again?koded wrote:Directive/2004/38/ECWell, I don’t know what you don’t understand in what I said. HO is retaining a passport which was reported missing and the wife has to go to her country to get a new passport even when her previous passport is still valid. I presume her embassy in UK would not want to issue a new passport if she should have applied for new passport knowing that her passport was retained by UK authority. It is like having two passports at the same time. I don’t know if that is allowed.Not sure why you say this? What is the least bit difficult or suspicious in what I suggested?
I think she should have written to HO office to return her passport and know why they are still retaining her passport.
What was the reason given to the issuing authority in her home country as to what happen to her previous passport? This doesn’t make matter easy for them because HO office will investigate the matter.
Not at all. When you report a passport missing to your embassy, it is no longer a valid passport. It goes on a list of invalid passports, which is why the home office rejected this application. (Remember that both the EU citizen and the non-EU family member needs to, in general, present a valid passport).koded wrote:Directive/2004/38/ECWell, I don’t know what you don’t understand in what I said. HO is retaining a passport which was reported missing and the wife has to go to her country to get a new passport even when her previous passport is still valid. I presume her embassy in UK would not want to issue a new passport if she should have applied for new passport knowing that her passport was retained by UK authority. It is like having two passports at the same time. I don’t know if that is allowed.Not sure why you say this? What is the least bit difficult or suspicious in what I suggested?
I think she should have written to HO office to return her passport and know why they are still retaining her passport.
What was the reason given to the issuing authority in her home country as to what happen to her previous passport? This doesn’t make matter easy for them because HO office will investigate the matter.
It does not matter where she got the passport. At home is just as good as from the embassy in the UK. (And she saved money!)blessedone wrote:No she made a new passport cuz she was on holiday at that moment and i told her to do a new passport cuz they seized the passports and we didnt know how long it will take to get the passport back from HO so we thought it is easier to do a new one.is there any difference from getting the passport from the embassy in uk and in getting it in portugal? since there is a new valid passport will their be a problem again?
thanks alot,our fears was that the siezed passport will be a long thing,now there is a new passport and it is valid i think it will show that the first one was just a mistake,my worrys is about my own nigerian passport,what are they going to do with my passport because they have it and i dont know what they want to do with it,when i will submit a new application with my wife's new passport,i dont know if it will be easy for them to find my nigerian passport that they seized...what actions do you think they must have taken after they found out that my wife's passport was reported lostDirective/2004/38/EC wrote:It does not matter where she got the passport. At home is just as good as from the embassy in the UK. (And she saved money!)blessedone wrote:No she made a new passport cuz she was on holiday at that moment and i told her to do a new passport cuz they seized the passports and we didnt know how long it will take to get the passport back from HO so we thought it is easier to do a new one.is there any difference from getting the passport from the embassy in uk and in getting it in portugal? since there is a new valid passport will their be a problem again?
There should be zero problem with the new passport.
Relax. Breath deeply. UKBA has been better at processing applications quickly, though they can legally take up to 6 months to issue the Residence Card.blessedone wrote:oh my God,how long do you think it will take?koded wrote:Provided all your new application and documents are genuine you don’t have to worry except for the time it will take because as I said previously HO will definitely investigate your application very well.
Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Relax. Breath deeply. UKBA has been better at processing applications quickly, though they can legally take up to 6 months to issue the Residence Card.blessedone wrote:oh my God,how long do you think it will take?koded wrote:Provided all your new application and documents are genuine you don’t have to worry except for the time it will take because as I said previously HO will definitely investigate your application very well.
It is not at all clear that they will take much more time on your application than any others. Yours sounds pretty straight forward in my opinion. They will have to have at least one more step of finding your passport from their files, rather than just having it in front of them on the desk.
Do you need your passport back as soon as possible? If so just ask for it back early. Not a problem.
I din't know it was that easy to make Passports in Beliguim!blessedone wrote:No she made a new passport cuz she was on holiday at that moment and i told her to do a new passport cuz they seized the passports and we didnt know how long it will take to get the passport back from HO so we thought it is easier to do a new one.is there any difference from getting the passport from the embassy in uk and in getting it in portugal? since there is a new valid passport will their be a problem again?koded wrote:Directive/2004/38/ECWell, I don’t know what you don’t understand in what I said. HO is retaining a passport which was reported missing and the wife has to go to her country to get a new passport even when her previous passport is still valid. I presume her embassy in UK would not want to issue a new passport if she should have applied for new passport knowing that her passport was retained by UK authority. It is like having two passports at the same time. I don’t know if that is allowed.Not sure why you say this? What is the least bit difficult or suspicious in what I suggested?
I think she should have written to HO office to return her passport and know why they are still retaining her passport.
What was the reason given to the issuing authority in her home country as to what happen to her previous passport? This doesn’t make matter easy for them because HO office will investigate the matter.
The OPs wife is from Portugal.DFDS. wrote:I din't know it was that easy to make Passports in Beliguim!
I think this is just paranoid drivel.toni34 wrote:mr,you have a long way to convince homeoffice,and dont think they buy ur words that her passport is stolen,they know the script,what happen is that someone will pay someone from portugal to come over to the uk,marry the person,fly back to portugal,then send back her passport then you wil apply for rc with it,but nowadays,if they suspect fowl play,they will actually track her travel history,to know if she has lived here,or if she flew here for maybe two weeks,pls be aware that they will come to ur address to look for you cause they believe it is fraud.infact there is a new department inside the ukba tracking down fraudulent rc applicants.am not going to advise you on what action you should take,but watch ur back,you maybe arrestted.am not saying ur case is fraudulent,but am not homeoffice,