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Family visitors (from outside the UK) aren't the only ones that the ministers want to target, but also existing PBS migrants (within UK)!The leaked Home Office submission to the immigration minister outlines a bid for secondary legislation in the new parliamentary session starting this autumn to abolish appeal rights for family visitors. It also discloses that ministers want to scrap the right of appeal for thousands of skilled migrant workers in Britain who want to extend or renew their visas under the points-based system.
The above, an extract from the article, from a "senior government official".‘Abolishing wedding visa appeals makes sense. No other major countries offer such rights. In the U.S. you apply for a visa to join your relatives. If you are told No, that’s it. There is no appeal.’
Its easy to make laws/rules if the lawmaker is not involved personally in the issues. I cannot imagine a lawmaker making a law "Europeans cannot marry Pakistanians" if the lawmaker him/her-self is european and just dating with a Pakistanian living in Pakistan... . But its easy to make such laws to other people if it does not touch the lawmaker himself.Monifé wrote:The above, an extract from the article, from a "senior government official".‘Abolishing wedding visa appeals makes sense. No other major countries offer such rights. In the U.S. you apply for a visa to join your relatives. If you are told No, that’s it. There is no appeal.’
Absolutely ridiculous. I have never heard anything like it. How would she like it if she fell in love with a non-EU national and their spouse visa was refused? I doubt she would just up and leave.
Can't believe that. Smells of illegality or against human rights to me.
The article is confusingly written (it's the Mail after all), but it looks like the appeal rights of family visitors are to be removed, not the immigrant partners themselves.Monifé wrote:
Absolutely ridiculous. I have never heard anything like it. How would she like it if she fell in love with a non-EU national and their spouse visa was refused? I doubt she would just up and leave.
Can't believe that. Smells of illegality or against human rights to me.
According to the guardian article (sorry but I refuse to click on a daily mail link out of principal) they would take away the rights of family visitors (including marriage visitors) to appeal, not the right of appeal for a spouse visa. I think there is no chance that this (removal of appeal for refusal of a spouse visa) would happen.Monifé wrote:The above, an extract from the article, from a "senior government official".‘Abolishing wedding visa appeals makes sense. No other major countries offer such rights. In the U.S. you apply for a visa to join your relatives. If you are told No, that’s it. There is no appeal.’
Absolutely ridiculous. I have never heard anything like it. How would she like it if she fell in love with a non-EU national and their spouse visa was refused? I doubt she would just up and leave.
Can't believe that. Smells of illegality or against human rights to me.
jp70 wrote:Its easy to make laws/rules if the lawmaker is not involved personally in the issues. I cannot imagine a lawmaker making a law "Europeans cannot marry Pakistanians" if the lawmaker him/her-self is european and just dating with a Pakistanian living in Pakistan... . But its easy to make such laws to other people if it does not touch the lawmaker himself.Monifé wrote:The above, an extract from the article, from a "senior government official".‘Abolishing wedding visa appeals makes sense. No other major countries offer such rights. In the U.S. you apply for a visa to join your relatives. If you are told No, that’s it. There is no appeal.’
Absolutely ridiculous. I have never heard anything like it. How would she like it if she fell in love with a non-EU national and their spouse visa was refused? I doubt she would just up and leave.
Can't believe that. Smells of illegality or against human rights to me.