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OK, but that is not what you posted in your opening post in this topic.''although you as an immigrant live here and work here, speak the language, you will always be seen as an outsider even though you may have citizenship''
May be you are new into this country and may have not seen much, give me 10-15 years and we will sit down after thatmulderpf wrote:I don't agree with this sentiment at all. People often only see what they want to see and skew the facts to suit them and make themselves the victims.
I do not see how the cap on skilled visas, measures to reduce foreign students and their right to settle would make me feel more or less an outsider. I am here, I have my visa and I'm hoping that I can extend and become a citizen. If I can't, I'm not going to take it personally, it's just what happens whenever you migrate to another country.
All the other "crack-downs" you are talking about are against illegal immigrants or immigrants already on the borderline. It doesn't make myself, a perfectly legal immigrant who got here by perfectly good merit on a visa category which has been scrapped now, any less welcome. In fact, I am quite supportive of all this, because of the extent to which the current system has been abused.
You will never feel welcome if you put yourself on the sidelines and remove yourself from society and take government action and changes to immigration laws as a personal action against yourself.
The same way as the police might come and arrest two people on my street for a crime, does not make me feel like the police are coming for me, because they caught two people on my street - because I know I did nothing wrong.
My point was not about completing a stupid form, it was about people "identifying" you with your origin/root, whether you want it or not, whether you like it or not??sushdmehta wrote:If there is one, it can be used by anyone - irrespective of his ethnic origin. In such case, whether one wishes to be "identified" or not is entirely his own choice.PaperPusher wrote:There is usually a 'prefer not to say' box.
Aryan2013 wrote:Exactly my point!!
You will be identified with your "roots", full stop.
And my point was that everyone - including the (British) white ethnic group - is identified in the same manner. And one gets identified in this manner only if he chooses to be identified so.Aryan2013 wrote:My point was not about completing a stupid form, it was about people "identifying" you with your origin/root, whether you want it or not, whether you like it or not??