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This was not obvious, because with visitor visa I was told others support would be acceptable. So there is other kind of thinking with this kind of situation.mulderpf wrote:No.
Both will be ok.PaperPusher wrote:http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/polic ... vilpartne/
To get a fiancee visa the parties must have met. She would also need to show her ability in English.
yesPaperPusher wrote: You also have to intend to marry her.
My brother could meet her if thats a problem. My brother is one of the closest to me, so I would think he is as close as any "family member". I can say, that he is closer than many families father -son relations/... or any family relationships! If I have something important, he is the one I normally first call.PaperPusher wrote: Third party support is usually provided by family members, not from someone who has never met the person involved and who will not even be in the same country.
But he can meet her. I think I would propably help my brother in a similar situation if he needed help from me... Although its true that I would like to meet her first.PaperPusher wrote: Remember it has to be credible, it seems incredible to me. I wouldn't provide six month's accommodation and living expenses to an Internet squeeze of my brother's that he has never met.
My money situation is slowly improving also. She hasnt got enough money.PaperPusher wrote: If your finances are this bad, what about hers? Can she show she has enough money to support herself?
Yes, thats a risky especially because some companies asking £900. I cannot really risk that much if there is no guarantee.Casa wrote:Let's hope you're not wasting your money on poor advice then. The reason you can't use someone living outside of the UK for 3rd party financial support is due to the fact that if they default, it would be impossible to enforce it. Not everyone is as reliable and trustworthy as your brother may be.
Of course I check *any* woman (even if met them in the UK face to face) till the day I say "I will"! The whole reason getting married/dating before that is that you can cancel it at *any time* before marriage. Marriage means something...Casa wrote: Ah...I've remembered the situation now. You were considering applying for a fiancee visa to use the 6 months as a trial to see if you got on or not...and if not, you would 'send her back'.
Casa wrote:When you say "I will", then you make promice to keep the goverment. What on earth does that mean?
I did not say transfer... I said, that putting it on application "my brother will support me by transferring money ...."Casa wrote: You won't be able to get around the financial aspect by having your brother 'transfer' funds into your account. The origin of all finances are checked by the ECO as they're aware that money is often deposited to make an application look good by family members or friends and then withdrawn once the application is approved.
This is what I also wonder: How they think that having "normal salary" from a company by working 8 hours a day if the strong proof of income? Because I dont even that one is... someone could tell their boss to increase temporary their salary to get more money and then decrease it after 6 months. Totally legal but as "immoral" as friends putting money on somebodys account. I mean, come on... nothing is 100% sure when proving somebodys money situation. Almost everything can be faked, so I dont understand why "having a constant normal salary" is the strong evidence. Even that has a lot of problems...Casa wrote:The origin of all finances are checked by the ECO ..
Logically speaking, If I am convinced that most of ways can be faked, that does not mean that I will do things my way or even that I am faking, isnt it? . Because I have *found* (finding something does not mean that I am doing it) a loop hole in the system, I should not get help on this forum??Casa wrote:Do you know something? I reckon it's best if you just do it your way as you say you're convinced that most things can be faked easily enough to convince an ECO.
Don't expect any help from the forum with this route though.
Yes, but thats what I was speaking about. If you promise something, you should keep your promise, isnt it? If you dont, then dont promise in the first hand.Casa wrote: When you marry and say 'I will' by the way...in the UK it's not the Government you've taken out a covenant with...it's a promise to your wife.
Interesting if you are right. Because this immigration company seems to be a big one. Are they then purposely lying just to make the money? Loss of £900 would be quite bad in time and money to me. Actually the total loss would be then £1700. Huge loss indeed for me, as am not so rich. Maybe to consider marrying in Africa instead and then come back if easier, but is that?Casa wrote:Let's hope you're not wasting your money on poor advice then. The reason you can't use someone living outside of the UK for 3rd party financial support is due to the fact that if they default, it would be impossible to enforce it. Not everyone is as reliable and trustworthy as your brother may be.
compassionate or not but I think it would be pretty good. Also I do not understand that "she must have £120 weekly to live". Well, I think I have lived many months with like £60 for food and couple of other necessary things needed (washing powder etc.). Why does she need that extra £60 if she decides to live with a little money for couple of months?Casa wrote:" Quote "One could be simply sending her back to her country if the husband cannot pay her bills" Your idea for an alternative method for the UKBA doesn't sound very compassionate does it?
In a way that I cannot change laws here, yes. Maybe I should apply to be a prime minister or something instead to make changes...Casa wrote:You a time waster? Surely not!
What a Love !!jp70 wrote:In a way that I cannot change laws here, yes. Maybe I should apply to be a prime minister or something instead to make changes...Casa wrote:You a time waster? Surely not!
btw. I did send a letter to a politician about this, so furiour I was...
But in a way things are going forward... I will go to Africa in two weeks (and yes, we do have money to meet eatch others... I namely already bought the tickets £670 - piece of cake! She will pay half of the ticket when I arrive. And hotel is reserved. But UBA was not convinced we had funds...ok, partly my fault because did not even try to give bank statements, but I doubt it would have been accepted as a proof for funds even if I did...).
Its strange that an intra-day trader makes lot of money wants to live onjp70 wrote:compassionate or not but I think it would be pretty good. Also I do not understand that "she must have £120 weekly to live". Well, I think I have lived many months with like £60 for food and couple of other necessary things needed (washing powder etc.). Why does she need that extra £60 if she decides to live with a little money for couple of months?Casa wrote:" Quote "One could be simply sending her back to her country if the husband cannot pay her bills" Your idea for an alternative method for the UKBA doesn't sound very compassionate does it?
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