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Any benefit from Zambrano stampt 4 to Spouse stamp 4?

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Any benefit from Zambrano stampt 4 to Spouse stamp 4?

Post by justcurious » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:00 pm

Hi all,
My wife Stamp 3 (since 2007) was changed to Stamp 4 based on Zambrano case 2 months ago.
In the mean time i have got my Naturalisation, Now should i get her stamp change again on basis of my Naturalisation?

Is there any benefit for doing this? And will she require Visa for Eu countries (travelling with me) as she doesn't hold Eu fam card?

Any help appreciated!

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Re: Any benefit from Zambrano stampt 4 to Spouse stamp 4?

Post by 9jeirean » Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:04 pm

justcurious wrote:Hi all,
My wife Stamp 3 (since 2007) was changed to Stamp 4 based on Zambrano case 2 months ago.
In the mean time i have got my Naturalisation, Now should i get her stamp change again on basis of my Naturalisation?

Is there any benefit for doing this? And will she require Visa for Eu countries (travelling with me) as she doesn't hold Eu fam card?

Any help appreciated!
The only benefit as far as I can see is that she will save E150 on GNIB stamp if she switch over to stamp-4 "Souse of Irish citizen" and another E150 if she requires re-entry visa. Other than that, no major difference in term of he rights and privileges of holders of both stamps.
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Re: Any benefit from Zambrano stampt 4 to Spouse stamp 4?

Post by justcurious » Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:29 pm

9jeirean wrote:
justcurious wrote:Hi all,
My wife Stamp 3 (since 2007) was changed to Stamp 4 based on Zambrano case 2 months ago.
In the mean time i have got my Naturalisation, Now should i get her stamp change again on basis of my Naturalisation?

Is there any benefit for doing this? And will she require Visa for Eu countries (travelling with me) as she doesn't hold Eu fam card?

Any help appreciated!
The only benefit as far as I can see is that she will save E150 on GNIB stamp if she switch over to stamp-4 "Souse of Irish citizen" and another E150 if she requires re-entry visa. Other than that, no major difference in term of he rights and privileges of holders of both stamps.

Thanks very Much, Do you think GNIB will change the stamp if we go for change as she still has nearly 3 years left?

Second when she can apply for Nationalisation?

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Re: Any benefit from Zambrano stampt 4 to Spouse stamp 4?

Post by 9jeirean » Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:50 pm

justcurious wrote: Thanks very Much, Do you think GNIB will change the stamp if we go for change as she still has nearly 3 years left?

Second when she can apply for Nationalisation?
I don't see why not. The point really is, is that necessary for now? She can always change her status to "spouse of Irish citizen" at any time, as long as she remained married to you. Plus if she changed to spouse of Irish citizen now, she gets a 1 year stamp 4, she has 3 years already.

She can apply for naturalization once she has 5 years recokanable residence. This include combination of periods when she was on either of stamp 3, stamp 1 or stamp 4.
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Re: Any benefit from Zambrano stampt 4 to Spouse stamp 4?

Post by justcurious » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:49 pm

9jeirean wrote:
justcurious wrote: Thanks very Much, Do you think GNIB will change the stamp if we go for change as she still has nearly 3 years left?

Second when she can apply for Nationalisation?
I don't see why not. The point really is, is that necessary for now? She can always change her status to "spouse of Irish citizen" at any time, as long as she remained married to you. Plus if she changed to spouse of Irish citizen now, she gets a 1 year stamp 4, she has 3 years already.

She can apply for naturalization once she has 5 years recokanable residence. This include combination of periods when she was on either of stamp 3, stamp 1 or stamp 4.
Thanks again for your help.

So it's better to stay on current stamp and pay for Re-entry visa and be done with it, she will be eligible for Naturalisation next year and speed Alan shatter is moving the train, she might get her passport before renewal :D

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Re: Any benefit from Zambrano stampt 4 to Spouse stamp 4?

Post by realhope » Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:50 pm

9jeirean wrote:
justcurious wrote: Thanks very Much, Do you think GNIB will change the stamp if we go for change as she still has nearly 3 years left?

Second when she can apply for Nationalisation?
I don't see why not. The point really is, is that necessary for now? She can always change her status to "spouse of Irish citizen" at any time, as long as she remained married to you. Plus if she changed to spouse of Irish citizen now, she gets a 1 year stamp 4, she has 3 years already.

She can apply for naturalization once she has 5 years recokanable residence. This include combination of periods when she was on either of stamp 3, stamp 1 or stamp 4.
hi 9jeirean
does she need 5 year reckonable residence or 3 years.
as she is the spouse of Irish citizen. some one told me that she can apply once she has 3 years reckonable residence and married to irish citizen who was recently naturalized
many thanks
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Re: Any benefit from Zambrano stampt 4 to Spouse stamp 4?

Post by 9jeirean » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:08 pm

justcurious wrote:
9jeirean wrote:
justcurious wrote: Thanks very Much, Do you think GNIB will change the stamp if we go for change as she still has nearly 3 years left?

Second when she can apply for Nationalisation?
I don't see why not. The point really is, is that necessary for now? She can always change her status to "spouse of Irish citizen" at any time, as long as she remained married to you. Plus if she changed to spouse of Irish citizen now, she gets a 1 year stamp 4, she has 3 years already.

She can apply for naturalization once she has 5 years recokanable residence. This include combination of periods when she was on either of stamp 3, stamp 1 or stamp 4.
Thanks again for your help.

So it's better to stay on current stamp and pay for Re-entry visa and be done with it, she will be eligible for Naturalisation next year and speed Alan shatter is moving the train, she might get her passport before renewal :D
Yeah, I just don't think there's any benefit to outweigh the hazels. You are right. There's a high chance of her getting naturalized before her current stamp runs out.
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Re: Any benefit from Zambrano stampt 4 to Spouse stamp 4?

Post by 9jeirean » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:15 pm

realhope wrote:
9jeirean wrote:
justcurious wrote: Thanks very Much, Do you think GNIB will change the stamp if we go for change as she still has nearly 3 years left?

Second when she can apply for Nationalisation?
I don't see why not. The point really is, is that necessary for now? She can always change her status to "spouse of Irish citizen" at any time, as long as she remained married to you. Plus if she changed to spouse of Irish citizen now, she gets a 1 year stamp 4, she has 3 years already.

She can apply for naturalization once she has 5 years recokanable residence. This include combination of periods when she was on either of stamp 3, stamp 1 or stamp 4.
hi 9jeirean
does she need 5 year reckonable residence or 3 years.
as she is the spouse of Irish citizen. some one told me that she can apply once she has 3 years reckonable residence and married to irish citizen who was recently naturalized
many thanks
There are varying interpretation of the rule as it applies to spouses of naturalized Irish citizens in relation to when the 3 year rule should kick in for them. To be honest, I can't give you a definitive/official answer but by common logic one would imagine that they can only apply 3 years after the spouse had naturalized; but as I said, this is by no means a definitive official position.
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