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tracy56 wrote:hi all , thanks for the response . the judge said i did not meet all the requirement of the regulation 8. but agreeded that i was sister to my brother . and said there is not sufficient documents that prove that i depend on my sponsor in uk. and my sponsor dont ve enough money in the bank. i appeal aganist it , the upper tribunal agreeded that there is not sufficent evidence of dependence in uk, but allow my appeal because my human rights was not consider by the first tier tribunal
I think if you have nothing to offer, stay away from the thread instead of Judging board members. The OP falls under OFMs, & most of them are having there applications severy scrutinized for your information. I can understand your knowledge about visa conditions, but i do not think it should be of any major concern for a stranger.nonspecifics wrote:Sorry if this sounds very negative, but if you have lots of evidence and it keeps being rejected then, Looking at it from the HO's point of view, they must be thinking:
If you were genuinely a dependant why didn't you apply for an EEA Family Permit as a dependant with your brother sponsoring you? Were you able to give a believable explanation to them?
If you were an illegal immigrant or breached visa conditions and have been unreliable in attending Tribunals, then of course your evidence will be treated as less credible if it relies on your personal integrity as a witness or if documents can be interpreted in various ways and it is only your word that certifies them as genuine evidence.
If you have no right to work now, then keep evidence your brother is supporting you financially now. You will need proof of bank transfers from his account to yours or bills paid by him.
I think if they were desperate to throw you out of the UK that quickly, they would have done it already. You seem to be getting lots of chances to prove your case.
You can only try your best and see how it goes.
Try to emphasis the physical documentary proof like birth certificates, receipts of financial support. I don't see how photos prove that you are brother and sister as you saying this is our family picture as brother and sister again comes down to your interpretation of what the picture shows.
Try to make positive statements explaining the evidence to prove your case rather than criticising and blaming anyone.
I have said this before, we do not need to be a Judge here, people come here for help not to be Judged, Actually what you said was right but of no help to the OP, you reassure him to get more evidence but you did not say what and what kind of likeable evidence she can use. No one is perfect and even the person with a genuine case are turned down, all are luck and done by the grace of God.nonspecifics wrote:@DFDS
You have probably made lots of posts to try and help people and you seem to think you are protecting the OP from criticism in this one, so it seems you mean well with your motives, but maybe you should follow your own sensible comment too:
"I think if you have nothing to offer, stay away from the thread instead of Judging board members."
Unless, you are a Moderator, you should not be trying to give anyone orders about what they can and can't say on this forum.
I suggest if you have problems with anyone's posts, report it to a moderator instead of hijacking someone's thread to criticise others. Otherwise, threads can turn into slanging matches between posters instead of discussing the problem in the thread.
You should re-read my post more carefully and you will see I tried to offer helpful suggestions and possible explanations of the situation the original poster faced.
The UKBA and Home Office judge people. They will use any negative aspects of a person's immigration history against them, even when it is not relevant to their current application. They don't just take people's word as evidence either.
I said: "Looking at it from the HO's point of view"
The OP said their applications were rejected again and again, so I was trying to encourage the OP to look at it from UKBA's point of view and then supply the evidence required to satisfy the UKBA.
I also tried to reassure the OP that she is being given every chance to prove her case, so it is very unlikely she would be arrested if she attended any tribunals.
Maybe once you read my post again you will see that.