The overseas earnings lift-up for T1 extension

[sadtoday]

Hi there,

I am currently applying T1 extension but part of my previous earnings during last 15 months were made in China. As I was so confused by the T1 extension eligibility webpage about earnings:

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How we adjust overseas earnings

An uplift ratio will not be applied to any earnings made while you were in the UK working for an overseas company. If you are already in the UK under Tier 1 (General) and you are applying to extend your stay, you cannot claim uplift rations on any overseas earnings.

So I contact my case worker and the reply is:

"Any earnings from China for which you provide evidence would be converted into UK £s, then multiplied by 3.2."

But the people who answered my call from Immigration Enquiry Bureau on 0870 606 7766 said I cant apply the uplift.

Anyone here please can give me a confirmation?

Thank you so much!

[Lucapooka]

You can't apply an uplift to extension applications and given that only extensions are possible now that Tier 1 is closed, the uplift ratio scheme has finished. The guidance has been re-written to reflect the rules as amended so please read this.

[hussainkothari]

Lucapooka is correct. There is nothing called as a upliftment ration any more. Your earnings should be converted to UK pounds and thats it.

-H

[mulderpf]

When you say "caseworker" are you referring to an immigration advisor? I hope you didn't pay them any money for the obviously incorrect information.

[sadtoday]

You can't apply an uplift to extension applications and given that only extensions are possible now that Tier 1 is closed, the uplift ratio scheme has finished. The guidance has been re-written to reflect the rules as amended so please read this.

Thanks Lucapooka for the 1st quick reply, do you mean the T1 extension guidance as the like below?

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... idance.pdf

[sadtoday]

Lucapooka is correct. There is nothing called as a upliftment ration any more. Your earnings should be converted to UK pounds and thats it.

-H

Hi hussainkothari, thanks for the reply. I was wondering too as i didnt see any relevant info about uplift ration as well in the Policy Guidance. However, the case worker did reply say i can use the uplift. And confirmed it in the 2nd email.

How strange is that!

[sadtoday]

When you say "caseworker" are you referring to an immigration advisor? I hope you didn't pay them any money for the obviously incorrect information.

Hi Mulderpf,

The case worker contacted me first as i have the earning evidence missing. So i told the case worker my situation that I have earned salary for one company and commission for another exporting company. The total earning is enough without applying uplift. But its now hard for me to get the supporting documents for my commission earning. So i was asking about the uplift as i was hoping to use only one earning source to claim the point. I only need 5 points. I have a phd degree 50 and age 20.

It is just so strange why this case worker told me the incorrect infomation! This is the same case worker who is currently working on my case!!

[sadtoday]

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... s+earnings

Also same other case worker in the above topic also said "Please be advised you are able to use the uplift ratio to calculate your previous earnings when applying for PBS Tier 1 General. "

what's going on here???

[geriatrix]

The topic you quote refers to applications under consideration before Tier 1 (General) scheme was closed for new migrants. The policy was amended after that (April 2011).

[sadtoday]

The topic you quote refers to applications under consideration before Tier 1 (General) scheme was closed for new migrants. The policy was amended after that (April 2011).

Thanks sushdmehta! Make sense now. But I still dont know why my case worker told me twice that I CAN USE the uplifting....

[geriatrix]

If you read the current policy guidance, you will note that the key-words "uplift" or "ratio" are no longer mentioned. Also read points 105-108.

[sadtoday]

If you read the current policy guidance, you will note that the key-words "uplift" or "ratio" are no longer mentioned. Also read points 105-108.

This is my understanding too. But why the case worker said the opposite??????????

[geriatrix]

A question only the caseworker can answer!

[abiodua]

@sushdmehta
Please i have a question to ask on oversea earning..
Let us say for example i buy goods worth £2,000 here in UK and i send it overseas for sale, and i sell the same goods for £3500 after conversion
The question is this will the caseworker consider the £3,500 as the earning or just the profit of £1500 will be considered for the oversea earning?

[Lucapooka]

In the manner you have described, no (way, José!). If you register as self-employed (export trader) with HMRC and declare the turnover from these transactions in your business accounts, then it would be considered. The other alternative would be to declare these transactions on the basis of an business entity registered (import trader) in your home country and provide evidence of that.

Please read the guidance.

[abiodua]

Thanks for the clarification because i sold some goods which on conversion will give me about £3,000 but profit on it is just about £400 because i really needed to sell to sort some things so with that i can claim the whole £3000

Sorry to disturb you another question i have.... is there limit to oversea earning that can be declared?

[Lucapooka]

There is no numerical limit (it can be 100%) but, rather, there are limits on the type of earnings and how they are being treated (just as there is with UK earnings)

[sadtoday]

A question only the caseworker can answer!

I just received the approval letter and the uplifting is applied!!!!!!!

[Lucapooka]

That is a mistake so please don't assume this applies to others who may be reading this thread. It's either a mistake by the ECO or a mistake by you (insofar that your earnings are sufficient without an uplift and you were not aware of this).

Anyway, well done!

[ScopeD]

I just received the approval letter and the uplifting is applied!!!!!!!

Congratulations mate.

[geriatrix]

A question only the caseworker can answer!

I just received the approval letter and the uplifting is applied!!!!!!!

If you weren't eligible for extension without applying uplift to your income, then consider yourself lucky.

[sadtoday]

That is a mistake so please don't assume this applies to others who may be reading this thread. It's either a mistake by the ECO or a mistake by you (insofar that your earnings are sufficient without an uplift and you were not aware of this).

Anyway, well done!

Like I said, my case worker confirmed twice in the emails said it; and in the approval letter, he also said "You earning from XXX Co Ltd are corroborated by the accompanying bank statements, but you have not applied the uplift which applies to earning from China........ we have, therefore, established previous earning of xxx and have awarded 45 points, in line with the published guidance and immigration rules"

What is ECO?

[geriatrix]

That's exactly what is being suggested - luckily your application fell into the hands of an "incompetent" caseworker who has neither read the current policy guidance nor the immigration rules (both of which no longer mention uplift ratio or earning bands for different countries)!

[sadtoday]

That's exactly what is being suggested - luckily your application fell into the hands of an "incompetent" caseworker who has neither read the current policy guidance nor the immigration rules (both of which no longer mention uplift ratio or earning bands for different countries)!

i know what you are saying, and that is also my question, so i mentioned it in my replying email. unfortunately, he didn't reply. But I am sure he definitely is aware of that.