Need immediate HELP. Not much Time for HSMP App from India.

[AkashS]

Hi Friends,

Hope everyone is fine. I need help and suggestions from you guys regarding my HSMP Application. I am running short of time as I am turning into 28 on 7th Nov 2006. I have few queries, and I hope you can answer them so that I can apply for successful HSMP application:

I) I have 3 years of exprnc in my Previous company as Web Developer. However currently they are more into Recruiting/ Staffing etc but still they provide Web Deveopment services. I contacted them and requested them to provide me an experience letter that says clearly abt my roles and responsibilites. The roles n Resp. are below:

1. Design and Development of Client’s Web Applications and Web Sites using various Web Development Tools such as Macromedia Dreamweaver and Flash, Microsoft FrontPage, Adobe Photoshop.
2. Programming in ASP, JavaScript, HTML and Database for development of Dynamic web applications.
3. Involved in the development life cycle (Requirements, Development, Testing, and Deployment).
4. Publication of client web site on the Internet and perform updating and maintenance for client Web Sites; ensures Quality, Consistency and Accuracy.
5. Setting up of client hosting, email and statistics for client web sites.
6. He was also involved in providing assistance in software development using Visual Basic 6.0 and MS Access/ MS SQL Server.
7. Developing Multimedia Presentations for Clients using Macromedia Director/ Flash and other Multimedia tools.
8. Meetings and Interaction with clients and vendors on a regular basis. Conducting business meetings.
9. Troubleshooting and maintenance of the Company’s Hardware and Networking infrastructure.

When they start company, the name of company was something else, and about 1.5 years back, they chanegd the name. So my offer letter is on previous company name and THIS experience letter is on other.

I want to ask if thease roles, responsibilites are fine enough or not?
I am unable to provide any salary slip as this was a small company. Though on the offer letter, they have stated my monthly salary and I can get some kind of salary proof now also, on their current letter head.

Will it be enough? Any suggestion to make this more good as my whole HSMP depends on this job exprnc only, as out of 4.1 years, 3 years are of this job exprnc.

II) After that I went to UK on Student Visa and studied MSc in Computing. When I come back, I joined IBM and worked there for 8 months, later I joined an Indian MNC, Wipro technologies as Specialist.

The thing is, to show my experiecne as 4 years, I have to include IBM and Wipro experience also.
Problem is that I doubt both IBM and Wipro would provide me an exprnc letter with Job responsibilites.
I am very much able to show their Offer Letter, Salary slips or an original total earning sheet for IBM and printed cpies of salary slip of Wipro. Releasing letter of IBM and a letter from Wipro that says my association with Wipro.

Can any one pls suggest me if this is fine or not?

III) it is related wo finance. I am married but not for 2 or more years, so cannot cleim my spouse' points.
Can any one pls suggest me, how much money I should show for me and my wife?
I am able to show some around GBP 7,000 as Cash+FDs etc. For properties, we took loan against out properties, so currently we do not have original property papers. Can we show current value of the property or we have to provide original papers also? Any suggestions.

Can we show Jewellary as asset? How can we show the total value of Jewellary? Is the CA Statement for total Assets (Cash, FDs, Car, Bike, Property etc) will be a sufficient to show the financial condition. Can any one pls send me a sample letter of Financial Statment (Very much require).

IV) I am Married but as I am not claiming my spouse's points, can I apply for myself alone? Should I stat that I am married but applying for me only? Or should I not mention that I am married?

V) Do we need to send all documents to UK Office and it cannot be applied in India? How long before we should send if you are going to turn into 28 very soon? Pls suggest me.

I hope you expert people will definitely try to help me out. Pls also let me know if I can get sample letters to complete HSMP Application.

Please try to reply asap as I am running short of time. Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Akash...

[AkashS]

Hi Friends,

Pls reply. I am afraid that I won't be able to collect all documents properly if you do not reply me


Akash...

[rp]

answers:

I)

your roles and responsibilities seems fine. You may show it project wise (detailed) roles and responsibilities held. But, remember without roles and respnsibilities HSMP team will not count experience. It happened with me. roles and responsibilities are must for counting graduate level work experience. I guess you are postgraduate now. (see definition if they are asking for 17 years study) and if you are claiming points on salary then, you will get points more than 65.

I cant comment about your company changing name. what you can do is ask for certificate from present employer about happened changes.
You have to show payslips only for last 1 year (only if you are claiming any points on salary). to claim points on salary please also show salary certificate( each month what you earned for last one year) and bank statement (for one year) where you salary was deposited.

II)

You have to get certificate from IBM and wipro with roles & responsibility. It's a long procedure. What I did was... I sent mails to concerned people with the format what HSMP scheme required. you may have to tell them what you want to write on it. they will varify with your project leader or group leader and then HR will issue certificate. you may ask your PL to help in that matter.
Boss you will have to do this to claim points. (see in your case 2 years of experience is enough or not). Other faltoo things will not be accepted.

III)
I think now you dont have to show property or finances for the application of HSMP. Once they approve, you will get an approval letter and with that you will have to apply for Entry clearance. during that time only you have to show your assets, money etc. (clear your doubt with hsmp team.. you can email them)

IV)
Whatever you marital status is you need to show it (if asked in HSMP application). But, you dont have to put any document for it. (I did the same thing and I got approved... because you are not claiming it... but, at the time of entry clearance you may have to show marriage certificate.

V)
Yes you have to send all original documents with application to UK HSMP team. Make sure to call to sheffield hsmp team and ask the exact address to send it through. If you from india, you can use FedEx or other such. they will send it within 3 working days. But, keep buffer time of 10 days at least.


Stuy well guidence notes provided on internet. for any clarification you can also get guidence to hsmp team. but, dont wait for them to answer.. sometimes they take a long time.

You dont have time to apply again if rejected so, act fast and get all documents needed. BEST of LUCK

[rp]

also make sure that your experience letter specifies start date, end date, designations. roles-responsibilities under each designations, fulltime/parttime... they count only full time.

[AkashS]

Thnx rp,

I'll do the same and send letter to HR in the format that is require for HSMP. Hope I'll get it done soon.

Do you want to say that at present (when I apply for HSMP), I do not need to show any financial evidence? However pls suggest me regarding Property things, as I mentioned that we took loan against property, so when I apply for Entry clearance, can I show current value of property only?

Also can we show Jewellary as Asset? How?

Regards,

Akash...

[rp]

well aakash,

I cant comment about property and Entry clearance because I have to attend interview and then only I will get to know that I have done it right or not.

I guess you can show valuation certificate for ornaments (gold etc.) but, I guess bank balance is most important.

but first worry about hsmp application documents. latest thing whether you have to show your finances or not... you may ask to hsmp team by e-mailing them.

presently with hsmp applicaiton you also will have to say that how you are going to get accomodation. If you could get a letter from a friend/relative from UK about it then, it is better.

Regards,

[AkashS]

Hi rp,

Thanks for your answers. Do you have any Sample Hierarchy Chart letter for HSMP? Also if you could suggest me what kind of letter is require from any friends or relative that he/ she is ready to provide me (alone of with wife) initial Accomodation for upto ... weeks or days?

Is it fine if they send me an email and I'll print it out and send it along with my other documents? Or they need to give a printed letter with their signature? Any suggestion?

Also, shud I send a query email to HSMP, India or UK office email ID?


Regards,

Akash...

[AkashS]

Hi Friends,

I am goin to apply fotr HSMP very soon. I am in process of getting experience letter (in specific format) from my previous employers, and I hope to get them soon.

Anyways, I have a small doubt regardin applying for HSMP frm India:

1) Do we need to send all documents to UK?

2) Do we need to show bank balance, properties etc when we apply for HSMP or it is required when we got approval and apply for Entry Clrnc?

3) I am going to show these documents. Pls let me know if anythng is missing:
I) Bachelors Degree Certificate (frm India) and Master Degree Certificate (From UK)
II) All Experience letters in the required Format.
III) Last 13 Months payslips (Let me know if for past companies, Final Settlement letter will be fine or not)
IV) Passport Photocopy
V) 6 Months Bank Statements.

Pls let me know if these are the things, which are required or I am mising anything. Thanks.

Regards,

Akash...

[sac]

unlike a student or tourist visa, where showing wealth and fixed assets tying you to your home country is a bonus (indicating that you will return after studies/visit), for HSMP this does not matter.

an HSMP applicant is, by the very act of appying to a skilled MIGRANT program, indicating that he/she is intending to leave the home country for good and settle down in the UK. so why will an EC officer want to see evidence that you are a king in your home country, when you're saying that you won't be going back anyway?

what you do need to show is enough money to survive in the UK till you get a job. for this, the equivalent of a few thousand pounds (say, Rs 2-3 lakhs) is enough. i know this because i showed less than Rs 2 lakhs for both HSMP and EC.

cheers
s

-----------
HSMP Approved - Aug 05
EC Approved - Nov 05
Extension Approved - Sep 06

[sac]

as for your other docs - they seem fine - but also show your latest income tax returns, and your passport copy (ID page) must be notarised.

and yes of course you have to send your docs (all originals except for passport copy as above) to the UK...

[AkashS]

Thnx sac,
It will surely help me... also I am now feeling quite good as you told me that no need to show so much money.. otherwise I was thinking how will I show 10-15k GBP + Properties etc...

I'll Notarize my Passport copy as well as IT Return...

Now jst worried if I'll be able to get proper experience letter frm IBM and Wipro as getting Specific Format Exprnc letter frm these organizations is a real challege.. Lets see...

Wht if I cud show 1.5 years fake exprnc... wud u suggest...

Cheers,

Akash...

[sac]

i repeat: ALL documents EXCEPT the passport are required in ORIGINAL.

use charm, perserverance or a friendly senior to get your exp letters, but faking any docs would be a very bad idea.

[AkashS]

Hi Frnds,

There is a problem in getting experience letter in specific format from Wipro. They told me that they cannot say that "this position (my designation) requires a Full-Time University Degree". However they are ready to provide other details like Full-Time Job, Roles & Responsibilites etc.

I wanted to ask, if it will be fine to go ahead with a letter that does not say that the position requires Full-Time University Degree or I'll not get any points if I do not show the same in my experience letter? Please suggest me.

[rp]

hi aakash,

I have obtained EC and now will be going to UK.

your company does not require to write that your work required graduate level work experience. that HSMP team will decide by analysing your roles & responsibilities written. This is specifically they need in the case if you are in IT domain.

format could be
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mr. XYZ have been employed by us from x to y date on the designation xyz on full time basis. During his stay with us he has played on numerous
roles-responsibilities as described below.

1. Design and Development of Client’s Web Applications and Web Sites using various Web Development Tools such as Macromedia Dreamweaver and Flash, Microsoft FrontPage, Adobe Photoshop.
2. Programming in ASP, JavaScript, HTML and Database for development of Dynamic web applications.
3. Involved in the development life cycle (Requirements, Development, Testing, and Deployment).
4. Publication of client web site on the Internet and perform updating and maintenance for client Web Sites; ensures Quality, Consistency and Accuracy.
5.
XXXXXXXXXXX
6.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Role played and responsibilites held by him in assigned projects are as below:
Project 1:
----> roles, responsibilities and brief description of project
project 2:
----> roles, responsibilities and brief description of project

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I in one of the company gave detailes of work done in all the projects. that's your choise. But, detailed work done like you described could be o.k. because my other certificates were not with project wise because I worked on single projects only.

You have to prove your age also. so notarised passport is must. you can send your driving license or birth certificate (original in local language and english translated)..

Are you claiming your salary points. then, your bank statement for 1 year (where salary being credited), payslips (stamped, signed on letter head paper are better), salary certificate month wise (3 columns like gross, tax deducted, net pay... that's what I gave).

Remember to give 1 extra evidence for everything you claim. That may help you.

Ya one more thing, I never suggest to put frudulent certificates. so my suggestion is not to thing about it. that creates problems in the future. and you are working in good booming area.
I know it is difficult to obtained certificates required by hsmp team. But, it is possible and you need to follow up and convince company people.

at the time of application also write one cover letter stating all documents name you are submitting.

[rp]

letter from sponsor may contain in below format

------------------------------------------------------------------------
name
address
contact phone numbers
and email

I "sponsor's name" is related to "your name" by "give relation". I would like to provide accomodation to "your name" when he arrives UK. I have XYZ bed room house. I will provide any financial help if he will need. I can be contacted at above phone numbers.

sign

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

this could be a letter to be obtained from your relative or friend. However, your may have to show additional documents for accomodation like counsel letter for house or rental agreement etc. if your friend proving any financial help then (then only you keep that red text in letter), you need to show his P60 (it's like IT-return in india), and 6 months bank statement.)

but, I tell you while in hsmp application you may just show above letter and letter on when called for EC then, you can submit others. This does matter more in the case Entry Clearance. But, at least you will have to write in applilcation about your accomodation.

[AkashS]

Hi,

I'll get exprnc letter for Roles & Responsibilites only and I doubt that there will be details about projects. I hope it should also be fine as they are ready to put 9-10 R&R for my exprnc letter.

2nd, I emailed some of my friends in UK and asked them to gimme a letter that they are related to me by friend and they are ready to give me initial Accommodation. I hope this should be fine. Pls see the format below:

Immigration & Nationality Directorate
Lunar House
40, Wellesley Road
Croydon
CR9 2BY



Dear Sir/ Madam,

I "sponsor's name" am related to Mr. Akash Shrivastava by friend (or
family friend). I would like to provide initial accommodation to Mr.
Akash Shrivastava when he arrives in the UK. I have XYZ bed room
house. I will provide any financial help if he will need. I can be
contacted at below phone numbers.


Regards,

Name
Address
contact phone numbers
Email

Pls suggest me if anything is still remaining.

Cheers,

Akash...

[rp]

I dont know about below

Immigration & Nationality Directorate
Lunar House
40, Wellesley Road
Croydon
CR9 2BY

but, should be o.k. May be he can write "To whosoever concerned"

one more thing ask your friend to send by urgent courier not by "Royal courier" (major low cost courier in UK). because they delay it though they say you will receive in 4-5 days.
Finally, you can atleast put fax rather waiting for original to come by courier.

Make a list thoroughly for every point you claiming. You will not have second attempt to try.

Are you claiming for salary???

[AkashS]

Hi,

I'll call him and tell him to fax me the same b4 sending thru courier. In case if it is misplaced, then I'll be having at least fax Copy of the same.

[AkashS]

Hi Friends,

I have collencted most of the documents apart of my previous employer's Exprnc Certificate. He told me that he has sent the same so it should reach me by Monday or Tuesday.

I want to clear few more things, my designation in that Organization, changed after one year. Do I need to give any letter for that also or it will be fine if employer mention it in Experiece Certificate (See sample below):

Dates Position Type of work
01/05/2000 to 05/02/2001 Web Designer Full time
06/02/2001 to 07/07/2003 Web Developer Full time

2nd, IBM is not ready to provide any experience letter with the specific format (Type of Job, Roles & Responsibilites etc) but I they have the same vacancy on the IBm Website, can I show the same? It clearly mention Job Description etc... I am posting it below, pls suggest:

IBM Asia Pacific

Basic Vacancy Information
Vacancy Code 64436
Vacancy Title IT Security Health Checking Analyst - SO - GSDC
Work Country India
Location Bangalore
Professional Area Information Technology and Services - IT Specialist

Part Time No

Job Description
Business Unit Description
IT Security provides Health Checking and Compliance-related services to customers in EMEA

Job Description
Handling Health check requests, identifying deviations and raise exceptions.
Coordinate with other competencies to resolve and close the issues related to the non-compliances.
Ability to work on more than one account besides maintaining data accuracy and integrity.

Qualifications Any Graduate from a reputed institute

Desired Experience
1 year in similar role / atleast 2-3 years work-experience
Familiar with Information Security administration
Familiar with Security Testing tools - Symantec ESM, IBM SCM

Desired Skills
Awareness of Security tools and Audit types;
Previous experience of IBM systems and processes

Pls gimme ur valuable comments frnd... I want to submit application within 10 days. Thanks.

Regards,

Akash...

[AkashS]

No Reply??? Pls reply my friends. I am going to apply for HSMP next week.

One more thing, My current company Wipro gave me letter with Roles & Responsibilities but they did nt mention job type as Full-Time. Will it be ok.

As u guys know that IBM also did not give me Exprnc letter with Roles & Responsibilities but as I mentioned in my last post, I can get the Job Details from the IBM Job website (pls see my last message).

So the situation is that I have a letter stating complete Roles & Responsibilities, Job Type and other details from May 2000 - July 2003. As this company is very small, so I am providing the company's Brochure and Visiting Card also along with my Experience Letter, Salary Increase Letter and Appointment Letter. Will these things be enough to prove the existance of the company?

And without IBM and Wipro, I won't be able to show total 4 years experience. And I have already mentioned my problem with their letters. Pls suggest me regarding the same. Thanks.

Regards,

Akash...

[AkashS]

Pls reply immediately my friends..... It's really very urgent