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My Landlord doesn't know, and I don't think he will be happy to know there are 2 more people living in my 2 bedroom flat.Azhaar wrote:bank statements showing gym membership for them could help, NHS Cards can help as well..
photographs may help, you have to get a letter from ur landlord to say at least that they are living with as part of your family..
this could help
The problem is the only thing I pay for them that is not in cash is the gym membership.Punjab wrote:I was thinking if you have any proof that you are spending your money on them like their tution fee or sponsoring them for anything it will help.
Actually the answer mention that they cannot probe they live with me checking my rental agreement. So if they were on the agreement the outcome would have been different, maybe. But that is impossible.Obie wrote:The law provide that they are supposed to be dependant or member of your household in the country they are coming from, and when they enter the UK, they can either be dependent on you or a member of your Household.
Provided you can show evidence they live in a home for which you have primary responsibility, they are supposed to be recognised as Extended family members.
As stated earlier, having established that one is an extended family member is not the end of the matter. There is a discretion as to whether or not residence card can be issued in accordance with regulation 17(4) (5).
In your case, it appears this discretion has not been exercised, as the HO wrongly concluded that your in-laws, are not dependent on you in the UK, without given any consideration as to whether or not they are part of your household.
Thanks for asking keffers, they entered in a tourist visa with an invitation letter from me, saying I will take care of them economically and they will live in my house for 6 months.keffers wrote:On what basis did your brothers-in-law enter the country?
Was it on a family permit or a tourist visa in which case they would have had to have shown or be expected to be able to fund their stay?
Thanks Obie, you always helping on every thread, do you know if I need to mandatory have legal representation? Because I was thinking to go ahead by myself.Obie wrote:Documents indicating proof of address such as NHS card if they have one and bank statements. Any correspondents they received at your address will be helpful.
You can also state this fact in your evidence in chief (witness Statement).
You really dont want to say much about the visa application, as this might undermine yours and their credibility.
The HO has a habit of using this in court, saying people lied their intention on visitors visa application, therefore any statement they make cannot be trusted.
Obie, thanks again, I don't feel confident to be honest, but I don't want to spend more money on this and I heard solicitors charge a lot for appeals, if we were talking about 100-200 pounds, I will go for it.Obie wrote:It is not mandatory to have a legal representive, but it may help if you are not too conversant with the rule.
Your evidence in chief is the witness statement you submit, which you will state in the end is your evidence in Chief.
Full consideration will be given to it.
If you feel confident you may proceed unrepresented.
One of the girlfriend is from Peru but she is settle, she works for Pret so I assume she is all legal as Pret would not hire an illegal worker. (she is a general manager there).Obie wrote:Unfortunately i am unaware of any firms that charge 100-200 pounds to represent.
You may be able to get legal aid from some firms in certain circumstances.
I am really not sure how the girlfried can help. Are they settled in the UK and have leave to remain?
I believe the issue is centered on whether or not they are part of your household and i think you may be able to prove that. Dependancy may easily be proven as you sponsored their visit and providing for them.
You may be asked to explain why EEA family permit was not applied for