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Topic moved.Jambo wrote:EEA questions have a better chance of getting answered if asked in the dedicated EEA forums.
Sorry to hijack, but just to say thanks as this pretty much confirms all the info on http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/eucit ... /applying/Jambo wrote:Although EEA2 application can take upto 6 months. The average is 3-4 months. Once applied, she will get (about a month later) a letter confirming her application (Certificate of Application) stating she is allowed to work.
You can always ask for the passports back (you will need to send both yours and hers) and this will not have any affect on the application.
For more information see Non-EU family members.
It is very unlikely you will get it back earlier than 3-4 weeks this way because of the backlog of getting you into the system.flashware wrote:
My question to you is regarding the passports ; I'm currently doing some work that sees me out of the country quite often and the most I could do without it is 1.5-2 weeks. Would it be a matter of express posting the application in, then asking for the passport back straight away as per:
How can you get your passport back from the UK Border Agency if you need to travel?
Thanks. I'll look into that. I'm actually the non-EEA, so I'll get SWMBO to look into getting the EEA1 then go from there. In any case, will contact the HO!Jambo wrote:It is very unlikely you will get it back earlier than 3-4 weeks this way because of the backlog of getting you into the system.flashware wrote:
My question to you is regarding the passports ; I'm currently doing some work that sees me out of the country quite often and the most I could do without it is 1.5-2 weeks. Would it be a matter of express posting the application in, then asking for the passport back straight away as per:
How can you get your passport back from the UK Border Agency if you need to travel?
Another option might be for you to apply for Residence Certificate (EEA1) in person in Croydon (same day service although 2 months waiting for an appointment) and then use the certificate only for your spouse application (with a photocopy of your passport). Not sure if this would work so better to call the HO and ask for their advice.
In that case getting EEA1 beforehand won't matter. If you are currently on another category visa, the HO might be willing to accept the application based on your existing details in the system. In any case, the HO will need to see your passport at least once and you should be ready to send it to them for 2-3 weeks. Another option is to apply for another EEA Family Permit abroad. You don't need to be a legal resident there in order to apply. Some consulates process the application in 4-5 days.flashware wrote: Thanks. I'll look into that. I'm actually the non-EEA, so I'll get SWMBO to look into getting the EEA1 then go from there. In any case, will contact the HO!
I'm currently on a Tier 5 (YMS) ; so similar to the OP in that case.Jambo wrote:In that case getting EEA1 beforehand won't matter. If you are currently on another category visa, the HO might be willing to accept the application based on your existing details in the system. In any case, the HO will need to see your passport at least once and you should be ready to send it to them for 2-3 weeks. Another option is to apply for another EEA Family Permit abroad. You don't need to be a legal resident there in order to apply. Some consulates process the application in 4-5 days.flashware wrote: Thanks. I'll look into that. I'm actually the non-EEA, so I'll get SWMBO to look into getting the EEA1 then go from there. In any case, will contact the HO!
Just to clarify, Dec 19 was when you sent in the actual application? How did you go about making it clear you needed it by Jan 16? Also, given that's over the Christmas period that may explain it... I'm likely to be doing this around June/July in which case it may be better?Beany2012 wrote:I had exactly this situation before Xmas. They had our passports on Dec 19 and I made it quite clear I needed mine back by January 16 for a business trip to Brazil.
At least 120 calls later, I gave up and postponed the trip. My passport arrived Jan 20, having apparently been processed on January 17.
I'm now applying for a second passport for business purposes as my wife needs to reapply for her UK residence card and I have my rearranged trip looming large.
I'd say you've got more chance of winning the lottery than getting your passport back within two weeks.
I must be confused with my understanding then. I thought the EEA Family Permit was different to the residence card and that the EEA Family Permit was just to give you entry to the UK while the Residence Card is applied for (and thus you have no ability to work, as you need the Residence Card).Jambo wrote:EEA Family Permit allows you to work from day 1.
Some countries allow 2 passports. The UK is one of them but you need a reason for having them for example certain contries stamps in your passport would prevent you from entering other countries (Israel and Iran for example).
They received everything on December 19 and I stated quite clearly in the cover letter that I need just my passport back by mid-January. Cost my company about 1k to rebook two flights, hence why they want me to get a second passport. For this, you have to provide a letter from your employer stating why you need one so badly, given my primary passport wil be disappearing into the ether for another few weeks, I'm optimistic it will be issued.flashware wrote:Just to clarify, Dec 19 was when you sent in the actual application? How did you go about making it clear you needed it by Jan 16? Also, given that's over the Christmas period that may explain it... I'm likely to be doing this around June/July in which case it may be better?Beany2012 wrote:I had exactly this situation before Xmas. They had our passports on Dec 19 and I made it quite clear I needed mine back by January 16 for a business trip to Brazil.
At least 120 calls later, I gave up and postponed the trip. My passport arrived Jan 20, having apparently been processed on January 17.
I'm now applying for a second passport for business purposes as my wife needs to reapply for her UK residence card and I have my rearranged trip looming large.
I'd say you've got more chance of winning the lottery than getting your passport back within two weeks.
A second passport may not work as all my visas that I require (for the countries I'm working in at the moment) are all in my current passport. BTW I didn't think you could operate off 2 passports?
Quite interesting, thanks for the insight. I've e-mailed the Consular Services of the Australian Embassy in London and will see what they come back with in terms of timeframe for applying for a 2nd passport etc. as I generally only have 2 weeks at a time in London these days.Beany2012 wrote:They received everything on December 19 and I stated quite clearly in the cover letter that I need just my passport back by mid-January. Cost my company about 1k to rebook two flights, hence why they want me to get a second passport. For this, you have to provide a letter from your employer stating why you need one so badly, given my primary passport wil be disappearing into the ether for another few weeks, I'm optimistic it will be issued.flashware wrote:Just to clarify, Dec 19 was when you sent in the actual application? How did you go about making it clear you needed it by Jan 16? Also, given that's over the Christmas period that may explain it... I'm likely to be doing this around June/July in which case it may be better?Beany2012 wrote:I had exactly this situation before Xmas. They had our passports on Dec 19 and I made it quite clear I needed mine back by January 16 for a business trip to Brazil.
At least 120 calls later, I gave up and postponed the trip. My passport arrived Jan 20, having apparently been processed on January 17.
I'm now applying for a second passport for business purposes as my wife needs to reapply for her UK residence card and I have my rearranged trip looming large.
I'd say you've got more chance of winning the lottery than getting your passport back within two weeks.
A second passport may not work as all my visas that I require (for the countries I'm working in at the moment) are all in my current passport. BTW I didn't think you could operate off 2 passports?
Also, the EEA FP allows the holder to work from day one. My wife got her NI number in a matter of days which makes this fresh delay to the RC even more frustrating.
Re: timeframe, that's what I was planning to do, so that sounds good. Unfortunately my work trips are to countries in Africa (for up to weeks at a time) that don't have a UK embassy "handy", the closest is in the country next doorJambo wrote:The list of documents is what is needed in addition to your passport. You will need to give your passport away for a few days. Processing time takes several days at least but if you are based there for a week on business, that might work for me (or all your business trips just one or two days long?)
You can have a UK work visa in parallel to a EEA permit, they should not invalidate each other. If you got a visa until September, I would wait until you have stretch of a few weeks you know you will stay in the UK and apply then for RC using EEA2. There is no rush to get it done with just now. Your 5 years under EEA regulations for PR status starts from the moment you got married (if in the UK) or entered the UK as a married person. The issue/expiry dates of the RC are just administrative dates.
The only issue being I'm never here for more than 2 weeks. So unless my client can arrange some London based work, it'll be hard. That's why I'm hoping the Australian Consulate may grant me a 2nd passport....Jambo wrote:If you got a visa until September, I would wait until you have stretch of a few weeks you know you will stay in the UK and apply then for RC using EEA2.
Perfect, thanks. I don't think the visa is any good as they look for 2 years ability to stay and mine expires September this year unfortunately!Jambo wrote:Your right is based on Regulation 14(2) of The Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2006. However I'm not sure that showing a piece of legislation would satisft the broker. However, your current Tier-5 visa should be enough I believe.