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It is worth establishing exactly when you got PR status in the UK. Can you please post the month and year when you left college? Then we can work out how you have been exercising Treaty Rights in the UK, and indeed the sort of evidence needed to prove that...... have been in continuous employment since I left college at 18
I'll put it this way, many British people would fail the test!ohara wrote:Hi, thanks for the reply. I started working part time in June 2007 and finished college in June 2008.
I was mistaken about my age - I was 18 when I started working but 19 when I finished college.
I have not done the Life in the UK test, however, having lived here for 21 years what are the chances I would fail? I speak and write English extremely fluently, as if it were my first language. If you did not know my name and background you probably wouldn't be able to tell that I was not English.
Just do the practice exams. There is an official book which has 14 tests and that is more than enough. No need to read the "text book".ohara wrote:Hi, thanks for the reply. I started working part time in June 2007 and finished college in June 2008.
I was mistaken about my age - I was 18 when I started working but 19 when I finished college.
I have not done the Life in the UK test, however, having lived here for 21 years what are the chances I would fail? I speak and write English extremely fluently, as if it were my first language. If you did not know my name and background you probably wouldn't be able to tell that I was not English.
You have been here long enough to remember the up roar that when a sample of "British" people who were all at least 5 generation here took the test the pass rate was fairly low.ohara wrote:I have not done the Life in the UK test, however, having lived here for 21 years what are the chances I would fail?
Don't worry, this is not the end of the world.ohara wrote:Hello all, I posted here a few years ago about applying for naturalisation as a British citizen. My situation is fairly complex but I seem to have figured it all out except I have hit a roadblock - CSI.
A little background, as more information has come to light since I last posted.
I am a Finnish citizen who has lived in the UK for almost 25 years (since I was 18 months old). My mother (now deceased) was a British citizen by descent, born in Finland to a Finnish mother and British father. She grew up in the UK with her father, but moved back to live with her mum and step-father in Finland. She gave birth to me at 25 in Finland, then moved back to the UK about 18 months later. We then lived permanently in the UK, during which time she married again, and had another child here.
I grew up completely in the UK; went to school, further education etc, and I have worked full time since I was 19.
I'm now looking to become a British citizen through naturalisation, ...
The guidance for PR document applications says they should be rejected if no proof of CSI is provided. I have never had it in the 25 years I have lived here, as I had no idea of the requirement and I'm sure my mother didn't either while she was alive. Nobody ever said anything to me about it. If I can't get proof of PR, then I can't apply for naturalisation. Does this mean it is now too late for me and I've ruined my chances?
Thanks.
As it is the only one applicable to me. It says to complete sections 5, 9, 16, 17, 18 and 19. Section 9 is "Relevant EEA national’s activity in the UK" and has the section about CSI. It says:I’ve lived in the UK for a continuous period of five years as an EEA national qualified person, the family member or extended family member of a qualified person, or a combination of these.
Which leads me to believe that I was required to have it. Should I just leave that section blank and submit the application?(7) Study or self-sufficiency – comprehensive sickness insurance
9.11 For any period in which you were, or your sponsor was, a student or self-sufficient person, indicate below how you/they met the requirement to hold comprehensive sickness insurance cover (the insurance must also cover family members in the UK.)
It's a generic form that applies to many people in all sort of circumstances.ohara wrote:Thanks, but in the PR document application form (EEA_PR_07-15) it asks which type of application you are making. I have selected:
As it is the only one applicable to me. It says to complete sections 5, 9, 16, 17, 18 and 19. Section 9 is "Relevant EEA national’s activity in the UK" and has the section about CSI. It says:I’ve lived in the UK for a continuous period of five years as an EEA national qualified person, the family member or extended family member of a qualified person, or a combination of these.
Which leads me to believe that I was required to have it. Should I just leave that section blank and submit the application?(7) Study or self-sufficiency – comprehensive sickness insurance
9.11 For any period in which you were, or your sponsor was, a student or self-sufficient person, indicate below how you/they met the requirement to hold comprehensive sickness insurance cover (the insurance must also cover family members in the UK.)
Fill in 9.5 for your employment.For any period in which you were/your sponsor was not a qualified person, or if you wish to give any further information, give details at 9.13
Relax.ohara wrote:OK. I am massively confused now. This is so overly complex that I know I'm going to mess it up somehow and waste £2000. I wish it were a case of just filling in a simple form
Thank you so much. What is a "qualified person" ?noajthan wrote:It's a generic form that applies to many people in all sort of circumstances.
Yes fill in relevant parts of Section 9.
Namely: Q9.4 Summary
but noting:Fill in 9.5 for your employment.For any period in which you were/your sponsor was not a qualified person, or if you wish to give any further information, give details at 9.13
You will need to submit adequate supporting documentary evidence (as per the guidance).
Then use Q9.13 to clarify that its your time as a worker that is relevant for PR.
Also include details of your time as a student without CSI.
I suppose school years can go here too.
You can also include a cogent cover letter if you need to explain your circumstances further.
Best of luck.
I will also write a short covering letter detailing how I have lived in the UK permanently since I was 18 months old, completed my entire education here, that my mother was a British citizen and we were both unaware of the requirement for CSI.For the purposes of this application, please consider that I am applying on the basis that having
been in full time employment for over 5 years is sufficient evidence of permanent residence in
the UK. I have worked full time since approximately July 2008. I did however complete my entire primary, secondary and further education in the UK too.
I completed it to the best of my ability, I completed the sections so that I included all educational history and relevant dates so primary school high school sixth form and university. I left the CSI section blank as like yourself, did not have this as I did not even know about it. Then in section 9.13 I stated that I acknowledged that my time as a student does not mean I achieved permanent residency as I did not hold CSI, but that I am basing my application on the fact that I have been working full time since Feb 2010, as a police officer. So hopefully that should be enough evidence! I will include p60s, a few wage slips each year for the five years and an employment letterohara wrote:Thanks for the reply alvarez, it's nice to know there are others in the same boat! What did you end up doing for section 9, did you fill in the educational history bit or leave it blank and explain in the further information box / covering letter?
All sent off this morning, 6 p60s covering the five years employment, employment letter, 4 months worth of pay slips for each year (wasn't going to send 60 pay slips!), evidence of residency in the form of bank statements, Hmrc letters doctors letters etc (no more then three letters for each year). Hopefully that will be enough evidence. I have to admit I didn't like sending my passport and all these documents off! I wonder how long it will be for me to get all these docs back. Anyway I will let you know if I hear anything from them and the progress of my application.ohara wrote:Hm OK, great idea. I will write a covering letter to the same effect. I am going to send 7 years of P60's (I know only 6 are required) for good measure.
Thanks again for your help, I'm keen to find out how you get on and will let you know likewise.