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.Subbukwt wrote:The thing is, we need to be clear in our minds BEFORE leaving our native/resident countries what we want to achieve in the UK
This seems like a 'quickie' approachSubbukwt wrote:Arent we losing out on time if it is going to take some 4-6 months getting anywhere near a decent job?
Subbukwt wrote:That was why we had put in a warning to all those who intend coming over saying, hey look, you are great in your country, you think in the UK you will be even greater.
Subbukwt wrote:Dont come to the UK for the sake of being in the UK - it does no good.
While I agree that being in a multinational and getting transferred may be the easiest of ways, it doesn't mean other options are closed. You may invest a year in struggling through odd jobs, then land a position that's a true career opportunity, and spend the next 10 years advancing to the top. The deal is, you may achieve more over the course of these 11 years in the UK than where you came from (not that I know for sure, but for the sake of my point). If one prefers a steady stagnant career to one that goes down, but then much higher up (potentially), it doesn't pay to plunge into the uncertainties of a competitive foreign labour market. By the same token, if one is not looking to invest many years in improving their career or life, but rather seeks short-term 'stints' abroad for 2-3 years, it's not worth it. Then it's better by far to seek employment with a MNC in a 'home' zone, and then get transferred whenever the chance presents itself...Subbukwt wrote:My personal experience has been bad here (I have been in India and Kuwait). I principally decide to come to get a move on in my career which was stagnating back in kuwait. Truth is, unless one is very lucky to get into some good multinational, you are bound to be in the same rut as elsewhere.
Unlike in the societies that are not fully democratic, most of large countries in the West are very diverse socially and economically, with individual and not the state very much in the focus of what is happening. This is considered a blessing and serves as the direct proof that a society can afford to be individualistic, where the business owner decides what's best for him/her, as they are in business for themselves and not the society at large (and definitely not for yours and mine sakeSubbukwt wrote:A vast majority of businesses in the UK here are owner-managed, I am told. And we all know that barring a few, owner-managed companies can hardly be termed professional. Things are no better here than anywhere else in the world. And if this is the case of the best country in Europe, God knows what it will be like elsewhere.
Subbukwt wrote:Anyway, we will give it some more time. But not sure in what way things will change dramatically in that time.
Agree. Half of the old threads have disappeared.panky12345 wrote:hi folks,
i remember ajayxyx submitted a lovely post detailing step by step how he got his HSMP approved and all the documents and explannations he gave; on the old BB. i've searched it n no of times, but cdnt find that! hope somebody else does that too!!
It never hurts to have grateful offsprings and for many that's already a big deal, and yet... I've met a number of people who were highly qualified in their countries (including India), some were educated at PhD level, left their country primarily for the children, entered the foreign labour force without specific corporate experience, some without proper language fluency, yet managed to find their adequate place in the food chain in 7-10 years, and... by the age of 45-50 could basically do whatever it was they ever wanted, and more sometimes. Some start acquiring new tastes once their annual income adds that 6th digit to itChess wrote:I think the HSMP applicants should really be thinking of the succes of their 'off-springs' as well and not solely themselves.