Biometrics for kids at post office

[tier_2_applicant]

Hi All,

I received invitation to submit biometrics for myself and dependants at post office.

While I and my wife were fine, my 15 month old daughter kept moving her face, hence her photograph could not be taken. Post office guys told me that I should go to a PEO.

I tried booking a PEO appointment for her but her case ID is not being recognised by the system (I and both dependents got different case IDs)

I tried booking a family appointment but am unable to do so as I have already submitted my biometrics.

Not sure if someone has been in this situation before?

1. Could someone suggest any best practice (!) for giving biometrics for kids?

2. Should I go to a PEO without booking an appointment and request them to help me?

Thanks a lot.

[Greenie]

Hi All,

I received invitation to submit biometrics for myself and dependants at post office.

While I and my wife were fine, my 15 month old daughter kept moving her face, hence her photograph could not be taken. Post office guys told me that I should go to a PEO.

I tried booking a PEO appointment for her but her case ID is not being recognised by the system (I and both dependents got different case IDs)

I tried booking a family appointment but am unable to do so as I have already submitted my biometrics.

Not sure if someone has been in this situation before?

1. Could someone suggest any best practice (!) for giving biometrics for kids?

2. Should I go to a PEO without booking an appointment and request them to help me?

Thanks a lot.

try going to the PO to try again?

[ashehzi]

Hi All,

I received invitation to submit biometrics for myself and dependants at post office.

While I and my wife were fine, my 15 month old daughter kept moving her face, hence her photograph could not be taken. Post office guys told me that I should go to a PEO.

I tried booking a PEO appointment for her but her case ID is not being recognised by the system (I and both dependents got different case IDs)

I tried booking a family appointment but am unable to do so as I have already submitted my biometrics.

Not sure if someone has been in this situation before?

1. Could someone suggest any best practice (!) for giving biometrics for kids?

2. Should I go to a PEO without booking an appointment and request them to help me?

Thanks a lot.

can we conclude that UKBA has started giving post office appointments for Biometrics data registration, even for families with kids? Its good news then. Someone with 4-5 years age kid should be ok then with picture process at post office provided the whole family recvd letter to give details at post office.

[Greenie]

Hi All,

I received invitation to submit biometrics for myself and dependants at post office.

While I and my wife were fine, my 15 month old daughter kept moving her face, hence her photograph could not be taken. Post office guys told me that I should go to a PEO.

I tried booking a PEO appointment for her but her case ID is not being recognised by the system (I and both dependents got different case IDs)

I tried booking a family appointment but am unable to do so as I have already submitted my biometrics.

Not sure if someone has been in this situation before?

1. Could someone suggest any best practice (!) for giving biometrics for kids?

2. Should I go to a PEO without booking an appointment and request them to help me?

Thanks a lot.

can we conclude that UKBA has started giving post office appointments for Biometrics data registration, even for families with kids? Its good news then. Someone with 4-5 years age kid should be ok then with picture process at post office provided the whole family recvd letter to give details at post office.

yes they have - according to recent biometric letters i have seen - children can give biometrics at Post offices since 1st march. It appears from 5th April that the option of making an appointment at the PEO to give biometrics will no longer be possible apparently due to the roll out of participating PO branches.

[tier_2_applicant]

Thanks Greenie.

I tried at Earls Court post office, where the lady operating the system was very supportive. She accepted a photo in which my kid's eyes weren't exactly focussed at the camera (Saying that you can’t expect a 15 month old child to know where the camera is!).

Two points to note from my side:

If a child’s biometric letter says ‘No responsible adult found’, the post office will not be able to scan the bar code. I saw two such cases at Earl’s Court post office, in both the cases the father was the main applicant but in the child’s application form the mother’s name was given as the responsible adult.

Infants have to be carried on the lap by the responsible adult for the photograph to be taken (as the camera can not be moved down to reach the child’s face). As only the child should be seen in the photograph and not the adult carrying him, a white cloth is provided which the adult has to drape around himself. To avoid the hassle, wear a white shirt/top – this should make the process more convenient.

[gprao2010]

Hi tier_2_applicant,

Could you please provide clarification on your note above: You have mentioned that you saw two cases were mother's name was given as responsible adult and they could not scan the bar code. Did you also see cases where it was mentioned as ‘No responsible adult found’ and post office was unable to scan the bar code?

Also, what was mentioned in your kid's biometric enrollment letter?

Thanks,

[abby92]

What if you have already provided biometrics for the child in his/her last application? Would you still be required to do it again for extension or you are exempt?

[tier_2_applicant]

Hi gprao2010,

For the cases that I mentioned (father was the main applicant and mother’s name was given as responsible adult), the biometric letter said ‘No responsible adult found’ and the bar code could not be scanned.

It can be a coincidence that in both the cases a dependant (and not the main applicant) was mentioned as the responsible adult. But it can also be a glitch in UKBA’s system.

Hi tier_2_applicant,

Could you please provide clarification on your note above: You have mentioned that you saw two cases were mother's name was given as responsible adult and they could not scan the bar code. Did you also see cases where it was mentioned as ‘No responsible adult found’ and post office was unable to scan the bar code?

Also, what was mentioned in your kid's biometric enrollment letter?

Thanks,

[QuickSam]

What if you have already provided biometrics for the child in his/her last application? Would you still be required to do it again for extension or you are exempt?

You need to do it everytime.

[shahjee11]

You need to do it everytime.

This is disgusting. the whole system stinks. I see no bloody reason behind registering your biometrics every time you apply for an extension. All they could do is just change the leave period or leave category where there is no major change to the facial features etc. But why would they do it? by extending the biometrics registeration to all categories, its very likely that they stop getting these done in PEOs for postal applicants and thus generating more revenue through post offices.

[Greenie]

You need to do it everytime.

This is disgusting. the whole system stinks. I see no bloody reason behind registering your biometrics every time you apply for an extension. All they could do is just change the leave period or leave category where there is no major change to the facial features etc. But why would they do it? by extending the biometrics registeration to all categories, its very likely that they stop getting these done in PEOs for postal applicants and thus generating more revenue through post offices.

they have to make sure it is the same person applying, at that that person has not made other applications in different identities.

[shahjee11]

Yes I can understand that but why cant they check this by using the information they already have once the biometrics are taken?

[Greenie]

Yes I can understand that but why cant they check this by using the information they already have once the biometrics are taken?

Well because they way they check is by taking biometrics again to make sure it is the same person. Just another passport sized photo is more susceptible to fraud.