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Post by WP_Holder_05_2002 » Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:52 pm

After UK, USA was the best choice, but situation is not good there as well.

http://www.workpermit.com/news/2006_11_ ... logjam.htm

We left our homelands and came to others' lands. In back home there was social injustice and we were unable to fight for justice. We came here and suffering injustice as well.
We need joint effort. it is very difficult to gather skilled immigrants to one platform? Even if we get united, we are still small in numbers and can't be effective on govt policies, especially the govt which can send soldiers to war against the wishes on millions of British people, how it will bother about a handful of foreign skilled immigrants.

It is proved now that this is not the matter of one extra year, HO has planned to make us scape goat for its failure to deal with illegal immigrants.

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Post by ssi » Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:24 pm

rella wrote:I'm still waiting for confirmation that they are restarting ILR clocks on HSMP holders. I really can't believe that they would be that nasty.
It was also discussed here:
http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... 2169#62169

http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/lawand ... angehc1702
135G. The requirements for indefinite leave to remain for a person who has been granted leave as a highly skilled migrant are that the applicant:
(i) has spent a continuous period of 5 years lawfully in the United Kingdom, of which the most recent period must have been spent with leave as a highly skilled migrant

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Post by tobiashomer » Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:30 am

try-one, was your last FLR as HSMP or WP? I thought if you switched then you were given new LTR. Unless I am wrong about that (and I might well be), you can still count time as WP holder if you apply for ILR under HSMP, provided you were on HSMP status at the time of ILR application.

Basically if you arre unsure or think you may be in a grey area, I would consult a professional. I have talked to several and found some better than others, if you want a recommendation send me a pm.

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Legal opinion needed

Post by mahin1110 » Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:35 pm

I am quoting something from new announcement made by HO

"Parts of this Statement of Changes are being brought into effect one day after the Statement is laid, rather than after the normal twenty-one day period. This concerns the deletion of the existing leave to remain rules; the introduction of all the new rules will be after a longer than normal period of twenty-eight days."

It is clear from the above text that there is no rules between 8th Nov. and 4th Dec. to consider HSMP applications that were made for extension during 8th Nov. and 4th Dec. So, how come HO apply the rules which are only come into effect on 5th December to consider applications that were made bofore that date. I think this is clearly a retrospective application of rules.

Can anyone give legal opinion regarding this matter?

Thanks.
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badhorse wrote:Friends,

We need to confirm the source of this ILR clock reseting thing.

Did Liam really say it? To whom? When and Where?

Is this something that can be confirmed?

How come it was leaked to the public domain?

What is the current official line on this issue?

It is tricky!

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Post by easylife4me » Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:24 pm

any news on Bapio case hearing today
THANKS

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Post by badhorse » Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:56 pm

Statement of Changes in Immigration Rules HC 130 (11/12/2006)

Anybody studied this yet?

Seems that HSMP section was updated again, but couldn't find real difference.

Well, it seems to talk about "extending HSMP as a work permit holder...." if I am not mistaken.....

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Post by WP_Holder_05_2002 » Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:51 am

any update regarding JR please.

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Post by a11 » Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:27 pm

there probably will be no news until at least mid-January regarding the JR, as the decision on our application depends on the verdict of the Indian Doctors' case, which is unlikely to be announced before that time.
have a nice Christmas!

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Post by WP_Holder_05_2002 » Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:05 pm

Any news about BAPIO case please...

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indian workers to sue govt

Post by desiguy » Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:13 am

pls check my other post to news abt indian workers set to sue the govt.

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... e704#68712

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Post by tobiashomer » Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:57 am

I get "page not found", is it only me?

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Post by desiguy » Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:59 am

pls try now. else u can find it from the homepage of the newspapers website - timesofindia.com

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Post by rg1 » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:07 am

Good, at least some publicity of the news!

But look on other hand, I have not seen this news in any UK newspapers!

I am surprised when BBC can show Prince Charles's hiccups, can't show plight of over 100,000 skilled immigrants in their own country!!!

Everything is got up case :evil:

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Post by ssi » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:02 am

rg1 wrote:I have not seen this news in any UK newspapers!
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 28474.html
Skilled immigrants forced back out by changes to visa rules, The Times, 3 January 2007

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Post by tobiashomer » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:46 pm

This is fantastic! as far as I am concerned it is all there, if the politicians, bureaucrats and public have eyes to see. Whether it will lead to any action is of course very doubtful so long as the HO uses arguments like balancing the "needs of applicants" and the needs of coherent UK policy.

One can only hope that disinterested observers, not just we migrants, will see the perverse fallacy in treating people who gave up viable lives elsewhere (otherwise they would not have qualified) and came to the UK on a certain quasi-contract, as "applicants". Let them change the rules for "applicants" (those by definition not already here); but let them enact transitional arrangements grandfathering for those already here, the terms and conditions they accepted and were promised. So little to ask!

Let's pray for JR, which will have a lot more chance of success now that the Times has told the real story in what is quite a neutral tone.

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Post by antontony » Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:11 am

I am not sure if eveyone mentioned it...

In the VSBI statement it says that "Judicial Review application "is to be put before a judge on the papers".

That means that there will be no barrister in the court talking to the judges. The case will be heard silently. The Judge will just open the bundle, read it...close it...Take next one...

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Post by ssi » Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:28 am

antontony wrote:That means that there will be no barrister in the court talking to the judges. The case will be heard silently. The Judge will just open the bundle, read it...close it...Take next one...
This is the first step - like a preliminary hearing, but between the judge and the papers. The outcome is whether a full hearing, with the barrister and all, is permitted or not.

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Post by Miami » Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:29 pm

This is the first step - like a preliminary hearing, but between the judge and the papers. The outcome is whether a full hearing, with the barrister and all, is permitted or not.[/quote]


If the judicial review goes ahead, what is the time frame before a verdict is given? It seems to have taken an awful long time for the BAPIO case, tough a verdict is expevted soon.

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Judicial Review

Post by Miami » Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:49 pm

Any updates on the Judicial Review court case

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Judicial Review

Post by Miami » Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:50 pm

Any updates on the Judicial Review court case??

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Post by easylife4me » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:57 pm

any updates..
please put in on the boards.
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Post by easylife4me » Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:12 pm

THANKS

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Post by rg1 » Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:34 pm

At least an Indian minister told the hard fact openly.

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Post by Dawie » Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:37 pm

Unfortunately we all know that British politicians don't really care a damn about what Indian politicians say, unless of course you're Gordon Brown and you happen to find yourself in the middle of an international incident while touring India because of some mindless chav.
In a few years time we'll look back on immigration control like we look back on American prohibition in the thirties - futile and counter-productive.

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