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Post by Rucy786 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:41 pm

Hello

it would really helpful if you could help me.

I have a court hearing next week,
and i have decided to go on my own without a solictor.

You know the letter you recieve by post about your court date and what time it is.

At the bottom of the letter it says APPELLANT AND RESPONDENT.

its got tick boxes and

The appellant box is ticked for : WITNESS STATEMENTS OF EVIDENCE TO BE CALLED AT THE HEARING.


The RESPONDENT Box is ticked : A BUNDLE OF DOCUMENTS TO BE RELIED ON AT THE HEARING.

It says THE APPELLANT must send copies of all documents to the respondent at presenting officers unit...

The respondent must send copies of all the documents to the Appellant.



Can you tell me? explain ?

Can you help me out on this?

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Post by Greenie » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:44 pm

What is the decision you have appealed against?

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Post by Rucy786 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:47 pm

Greenie wrote:What is the decision you have appealed against?
My wife took a EMD Test but the provider expired, the new law come out

now shes retaken it.

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Post by Greenie » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:51 pm

Ok so i presume you mean she applied for a spouse visa? Is she outside the UK? Was the English language test the only reason for refusal?

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Post by Rucy786 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:56 pm

Greenie wrote:Ok so i presume you mean she applied for a spouse visa? Is she outside the UK? Was the English language test the only reason for refusal?
Yes. yes that was the only reason.

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Post by geriatrix » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:36 pm

What you mean when you say "provider expired"?
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Post by Rucy786 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:44 pm

sushdmehta wrote:What you mean when you say "provider expired"?
it is not on the ukba approved list

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Post by geriatrix » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:28 am

Rucy786 wrote:What about the people who did a test on a provider which is not on the list?

Do they need to retake a new english lang test?

Because if they say no to the Decison, how can it be our fault? its because of the new law?
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Post by Rucy786 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:31 am

sushdmehta wrote:
Rucy786 wrote:What about the people who did a test on a provider which is not on the list?

Do they need to retake a new english lang test?

Because if they say no to the Decison, how can it be our fault? its because of the new law?
. She has took the test again .....so I can say to the court that it's not our fault?

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Post by geriatrix » Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:12 am

It appears that there was a significant gap between when she took the test (when EMD was an approved test provider) and when an application was submitted (when changes to the list became effective and EMD was no longer an approved test provider). Please confirm if true.

When did she retake the test - after receiving refusal or before?
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Post by Rucy786 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:46 am

sushdmehta wrote:It appears that there was a significant gap between when she took the test (when EMD was an approved test provider) and when an application was submitted (when changes to the list became effective and EMD was no longer an approved test provider). Please confirm if true.

When did she retake the test - after receiving refusal or before?
after she got the refusal.

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Post by geriatrix » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:53 pm

sushdmehta wrote:It appears that there was a significant gap between when she took the test (when EMD was an approved test provider) and when an application was submitted (when changes to the list became effective and EMD was no longer an approved test provider). Please confirm if true.
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Post by Rucy786 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:17 pm

sushdmehta wrote:
sushdmehta wrote:It appears that there was a significant gap between when she took the test (when EMD was an approved test provider) and when an application was submitted (when changes to the list became effective and EMD was no longer an approved test provider). Please confirm if true.

Can i say that to the court? all of the above ?

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Post by geriatrix » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:00 pm

Seems you are ignoring to confirm if it is how and what happened.

Assuming that it was indeed the case, then I am not sure if you will win the appeal because the real reason that the application was refused is ignorance.
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Post by Rucy786 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:26 pm

sushdmehta wrote:Seems you are ignoring to confirm if it is how and what happened.

Assuming that it was indeed the case, then I am not sure if you will win the appeal because the real reason that the application was refused is ignorance.

I confirm its TRUE !!
What do you mean ignorance?

My Wife took the test but the Provider was not on the UKBA APPROVED LIST.

Now she has retaken it. and now i will show them that.

So what do you mean Ignorance? :!: :!: :!:

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Post by Rucy786 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:46 pm

Rucy786 wrote:
sushdmehta wrote:Seems you are ignoring to confirm if it is how and what happened.

Assuming that it was indeed the case, then I am not sure if you will win the appeal because the real reason that the application was refused is ignorance.

I confirm its TRUE !!
What do you mean ignorance?

My Wife took the test but the Provider was not on the UKBA APPROVED LIST.

Now she has retaken it. and now i will show them that.

So what do you mean Ignorance? :!: :!: :!:
So that basically means a new fresh application?

But what about those people who took the emd test and colleges told them that its approved but by them time they gained the certifcate the provider expired? is that fair or no?

Making new laws? like 18 to 21? and then they scrapped it back to the age limit 18?

What about those people who waited to turn 21? like i did?

Then they made the law back to 18? why ? why ?

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Post by skstar » Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:52 am

Hi,

Okay so basically she took the test and you submitted it with the application, but it was refused on the basis that it was outdated because it was not on the list.

Right so now that she has taken the test (relevant one) as long as you have the ceritificate, transcript basically proof she has passed it then present that at the hearing.

State you didn't know it was outdated.

Simples if that is the only cause for refusal

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Post by skstar » Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:55 am

If you are appealing then just present those documents to show proof and you meet the requirements

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Post by Casa » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:11 pm

The issue is not that you now meet the language test requirement, but that you didn't at the time of the application. Therefore I believe you'll find that the decision was correct.
Why not reapply?

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Post by Rucy786 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:49 am

Casa wrote:The issue is not that you now meet the language test requirement, but that you didn't at the time of the application. Therefore I believe you'll find that the decision was correct.
Why not reapply?
I will Inshallha.

So with the new law you have to earn £18000 or more?

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Post by Casa » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:45 pm

A minimum of £18,600 a year.

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