Degree - Qualification Verification

nnj10 · Post by **nnj10** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:30 pm

Hi Freebirds,

I was in touch with the NARIC guys from 12-december and requesting them for sending it by e-mail.

I asked them a day before and they said they can send it by Fax, cause of christmas delays by the postal departments.

And today I got it.

I suggest, if you can wait till 02-Jan-07; wait, in between if you get the letter, send it with the letter.

NNJ10

nnj10 · Post by **nnj10** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 4:58 am

Hi All,

I received the NARIC letter of comparison today on SUNDAY.
I am gonna send the original letter alongwith my application.

NNJ10

freebirds · Post by **freebirds** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 6:03 am

HOW COME TODAY...where are you from..
I am from India,hyderabad and the post-office is closed today and tomorrow. usually they send by airmail and that will come through postal-dept. i was a bit surprised to know u got today..i mean, i was also hoping to get it today just in case postal dept works...
pl share ur thoughts

nnj10 · Post by **nnj10** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 7:57 am

Hi Freebirds,

YES, it was a surprise to me also.....
Today being sunday....I got it through the Indian Post....
I am in New Delhi...

NNJ10

freebirds · Post by **freebirds** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:05 am

good ya...may be in delhi post dept works on sundays alos..becos of chritsmas and new year. good good.
i have to wait for two more days. btw...here is the list of docs am submitting..

previous earnings

1. 12 month pay slips company letter head attested
2. bank statements 12 months attested
3. letter from CA abt 12 months gross earnings
4. SARAL form attested by IT dept for the period apr05-mar06. but my earnins are from dec1st05--nov30th06. so from apr06-nov06, i will pay tax in next year.for this i got a letter from charted accountant stating the same.
5. IT payment challan and computation fom
6. OANDA.com pound rate as of NOV-30TH 06.
7. form16 printed from company website payroll

education
MBA original + transcripts
B.COM orignal + transcripts
medium of instruction from university.

will wait for NARIC letter also.

my doubt is ..do i still need letter from employer stating my gross earings for the past 12 months. and is SARAL is the correct proof for IT returns.

pl clear my doubts..also we will be submitting our application ..say on 27th by courier...and it might reach UK on 2nd jan..does the HSMP ask for dec month pay slip also..???

freebirds · Post by **freebirds** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:08 am

guyz pl help...what shld i write under past earning section where there is a column to write the reason for not providing IT returns and pay slips.. i have IT returns for 05-06, which covers only 5 months of 12 months period. for the rest of 7 months, i am providing a CA letter which explains all these.
is a letter from employer showing the gross earnings for the 12 months required...i am really scared abt this point..
is form16 shld be attested..
pl advise

paramjit2k · Post by **paramjit2k** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:02 am

Seems gud list of docs...

Explain ur evidenecs in cover letter...

But present them in some logical order before sending..Like primary evidences first, and then secondary and so on...

I suggest put ur ITR on top, and explain Indian Tax system is from 1 Apr to 31 mar. U can take excrept from Indian govt Income tax website...SaRAL for as we know not suggested, coz it is self assesed form. I guess support the form with attested Form 16.

Be sure, every evidence corborate each other...

Send only which is complete evidence and can serve as evidence. Anything on plain or printed format shud be attested.

Hope this helps..

BEST OF LUCK

freebirds wrote: previous earnings

1. 12 month pay slips company letter head attested Fine
2. bank statements 12 months attested Fine
3. letter from CA abt 12 months gross earnings Is it on CA letter head, If yes then FIne
4. SARAL form attested by IT dept for the period apr05-mar06. but my earnins are from dec1st05--nov30th06. so from apr06-nov06, i will pay tax in next year.for this i got a letter from charted accountant stating the same. Fine but I suggest support it wid Form 16.
5. IT payment challan and computation fom Fine
6. OANDA.com pound rate as of NOV-30TH 06. Take rate of date of last payslip, r u sure u got on 30 Nov itself.
7. form16 printed from company website payroll Should be attested by employer

education
MBA original + transcripts Fine
B.COM orignal + transcripts Fine
medium of instruction from university. Fine

will wait for NARIC letter also. perfect

WHAT ABOUT AGE?

my doubt is ..do i still need letter from employer stating my gross earings for the past 12 months. and is SARAL is the correct proof for IT returns.

pl clear my doubts..also we will be submitting our application ..say on 27th by courier...and it might reach UK on 2nd jan..does the HSMP ask for dec month pay slip also..???

paramjit2k · Post by **paramjit2k** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:18 am

freebirds wrote: guyz pls help...what shld i write under past earning section where there is a column to write the reason for not providing IT returns and pay slips.. I have IT returns for 05-06, which covers only 5 months of 12 months period. for the rest of 7 months.
Attach as suggested in earlier post.

I am providing a CA letter which explains all these. Gud supporting Doc

is a letter from employer showing the gross earnings for the 12 months required...i am really scared abt this point..
Not mandatory if u have 2 other proofs. Still gud if u have.

is form16 should be attested... Should be, mandatory

pl advise.

freebirds · Post by **freebirds** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 8:59 am

guys,
i havent received my naric letter till now.
they say it was posted on 8th and today is 26th. 18days maaaaaaaaaaaan..
whats hapening out there??
i went to postoffice today also but they say its not reached

nnj10 · Post by **nnj10** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:20 am

Hi Freebirds,

I guess, you have following three options:
1) Wait for the letter -
2) Send the application without this letter, give your NARIC reference number in the cover letter and the HSMP people can get the data from NARIC.
3) Wait till NARIC opens and ask them to Fax you a copy of comparison letter. Again this is not sure, whether they would be nice to you to Fax the letter.

I wish you get the letter ASAP.

NNJ10

freebirds · Post by **freebirds** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:52 am

thanks nnj10,
i have one last query...sec 24 under english langauge requirement says, if the letter doestn have 'gratned','conferred', or awarded then it cant be considered. but our osmania uni has a standar format which doesnt contain these 3 words. it says, he has been admitted to the degree thats it..any way i have NARIC letter.
for MBA and b.com i have naric leter (yet to get), will this suffcie or the letter from uni shld have any one of these 3 words..
man what these guys are asking and our uni people dont understand this. i had a argument with our uni head of exam branch guy abt this...

webhunter · Post by **webhunter** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:22 am

Regarding english language requirement, As long as it says the 'medium of instruction is english' there should'nt be a problem with words like 'awarded' 'conferred' etc.,

First they will establish if you have a valid bachelors degree

, once that is confirmed, all they need is a letter confirming the medium of instruction is english.

Hope that helps.

freebirds · Post by **freebirds** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:37 am

nnj10,
have u request for a courier pickup in ur covering letter or let the hsmp team send it to u ...
if u have arranged courier ...what was it...

friends, is MBE sheffield okay to pick up our courier...

thanks,

nnj10 · Post by **nnj10** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:06 pm

Freebirds,

I just mentioned in the cover letter that I would like to have courier arranged for the return of the document.

The procedure is that once you get the HSMP application reference number, you need to inform the HSMP team by Fax that you are arranging the courier.

So I guess once the decision is made on the application, HSMP will contact the applicant and ask for the courier to pickup. I read in the guidance notes that one has to infrom the HSMP team within 14 working days, the infrormation about the courier pickup; otherwise they will send it by regular poct(Royal Mail)

I guess no other option other than MBE, Sheffield if one has to arrange the courier.

NNJ10

freebirds · Post by **freebirds** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:05 am

oh man..today alsi i havent recd my naric letter..what the helll is this...i am frustrated....
someone said..waiting is painful...it is ..

nnj10 · Post by **nnj10** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:07 am

Hi Freebirds,

If the mail or phone result is positive, go ahead and send your application, if you cannot wait more.

Otherwise wait for the NARIC office to open, and request them to send you a Fax, and then send it....

I Know it is really painful, to wait for a document for which you have paid the full amount. What can we do, we are at mercy of NARIC and royal mail.

Hope you get the letter at the earliest.
Mean while check back all other evidences and references are matching the requirement and are in order as required.

NNJ10

freebirds · Post by **freebirds** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:24 am

thanks nnj10 for ur support. i have one doubt..which is irking me..my dec 05 sal has 7 days of nov05 salary in it as I joined my current employer on nov 23rd 05. but payslip doesnt write anything abt it though, that this sal includes nov 7 days also. it is shown as arrears. i was wondering, whether the casworker might find out that dec sal incl nov 7 days also karke. i am attaching sal certificate from my curr empl9yer that the current gross per month is xxx rs bolke. in that they mentioned that so and so is working since nov 23'05. do u think, the HO will be particular abt this and try to find out 7days etc..may be i am thinkg toomuch .but its only a fear...by the way, do we have to put pointers in payslip where is net pay and gross etc..or caseworker will find it out..

Jk2007 · Post by **Jk2007** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:52 am

freebirds

In your earnings claim, did you show your December salary amount (that includes 7 days of Nov Salary)?

In my opinion, the payments you have actually received within the period you are claiming counts.

For example, if you are claiming for a period upto January 15, and if you have not yet received the salary for the period Jan 1-15, HO may not count this salary.

On the otherhand if you have received salary on Dec 31, and that included 7 days of Salary in November, I do not think HO will deduct 7 days of November salary from your earnings.

freebirds · Post by **freebirds** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:12 am

In your earnings claim, did you show your December salary amount (that includes 7 days of Nov Salary)? yes i did show december salary. i got this sal on dec 31st. for nov 7 days they didnt pay me on nov 30, but was incl in dec sal. anyways the dec payslip shows it as arrears to basic, hra,ta,da etc.
In my opinion, the payments you have actually received within the period you are claiming counts. then no progblem
For example, if you are claiming for a period upto January 15, and if you have not yet received the salary for the period Jan 1-15, HO may not count this salary.

On the otherhand if you have received salary on Dec 31, and that included 7 days of Salary in November, I do not think HO will deduct 7 days of November salary from your earnings. if this is the case, then i am fine..do we have to put a photocopy of our payslips showing this is gross this is net etc..becos apart from basci+hra etc i get shift allownace that is put as additional allowance in pay slip. the total is gross for me. so whatever is shown in payslip will be considered by the HO ..hope am right

nnj10 · Post by **nnj10** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:22 am

Hi Freebirds,

1) If you exclude these 7 days salary does your points reduce?
If yes, I suggect better you change your eanrnings period 01-Jan-06 to 31-Dec-06, and claim the points for that salary, as such you are waiting for the NARIC letter. But in this case, you might need to get the documents like earning letters etc for new period.

2) If no, just go ahead, and state that the arreas in the dec-05 payslip is meant for 7 days worked in the month of november, get a letter from your employer for the same. Deduct this amount from the gross 12 months earnings and calim points for this amount.

Why to give a chance to HO for any potential verification on this?

NNJ10

chihhungkao · Post by **chihhungkao** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:04 am

If you have a UK degree then do you still have to go for the degree verification from NARIC?

webhunter · Post by **webhunter** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:34 am

I dont think Naric is required for UK degrees.

freebirds · Post by **freebirds** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:56 am

1) If you exclude these 7 days salary does your points reduce?
If yes, I suggect better you change your eanrnings period 01-Jan-06 to 31-Dec-06, and claim the points for that salary, as such you are waiting for the NARIC letter. But in this case, you might need to get the documents like earning letters etc for new period. --what u said is right. but I have one point here to make..the form and guidance says, the earnings should be for any 12 months during the 15 months immediately preceeding the date of your application. which means, i will show my 13 months salary list on a paper and i can choose any 12 months salary right....the sum of any 12 months out of 13 months shld give me 7500 + pounds ..am i right..
if i deduct nov7days arrears, then the i dont get 7500+. this would be less that 7500. if i take any 12 of 13 months then i think yes..it shld be 7500+

2) If no, just go ahead, and state that the arreas in the dec-05 payslip is meant for 7 days worked in the month of november, get a letter from your employer for the same. Deduct this amount from the gross 12 months earnings and calim points for this amount.

Why to give a chance to HO for any potential verification on this

below is my december pay slipEARNINGS REGULAR ARREARS DEDUCTIONS

BASIC 16200.00 4320.00 LWF 2.00
COMMUTATION 800.00 213.00 MBS 5.00
GRPALLW 25789.00 0.00 MEDCLAIM 120.00
HRA 6480.00 1728.00 PF 2462.00
SPLALLW 500.00 133.00 PT 200.00
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TOTAL: 49769.00 6394.00 TOTAL 2789.00

freebirds · Post by **freebirds** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:58 am

below is my december pay slip
EARNINGS REGULAR ARREARS DEDUCTIONS

BASIC 16200.00 4320.00 LWF 2.00
COMMUTATION 800.00 213.00 MBS 5.00
GRPALLW 25789.00 0.00 MEDCLAIM 120.00
HRA 6480.00 1728.00 PF 2462.00
SPLALLW 500.00 133.00 PT 200.00
---------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL: 49769.00 6394.00 TOTAL 2789.00

nnj10 · Post by **nnj10** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:20 am

Hi Freebirds,

If you show earnings for 13 months, then it would really confuse the caseworker.

I suggest you take into account 12 months only, get new letter from your employer etc. to prove your EARNING. If you leave it for the caseworker to decide which 12 month, in that case, you might loose points for not earning above GBP7500+.

Are you claiming exactly 75 points or more?

NNJ10

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