ILR PEO deferred Apps - Further checks/Additional docs cases

[spaul]

Yes. PEO reference no is the one

U mean the PEO Reference number of online appointment ?


Regards
Krishna

The online reference is just for the PEO appointment and that number has not been used anywhere as I understand. I had a differenet reference number given by CW when my case was deferred. Even if you do not have any reference number like my one, your passport no or DOB can be used to track your case.

In my case , she mentioned Name , Place And MY DOB as Ref:

I quoted the same while sending the docs to UK BA and also enclosed the case worker letter along with the documents

Will this be ok ?

I am sure that should be ok. As you have enclosed CW's letter along with it, it looks good

[Krishnalvr]

U mean the PEO Reference number of online appointment ?


Regards
Krishna

The online reference is just for the PEO appointment and that number has not been used anywhere as I understand. I had a differenet reference number given by CW when my case was deferred. Even if you do not have any reference number like my one, your passport no or DOB can be used to track your case.

In my case , she mentioned Name , Place And MY DOB as Ref:

I quoted the same while sending the docs to UK BA and also enclosed the case worker letter along with the documents

Will this be ok ?

I am sure that should be ok. As you have enclosed CW's letter along with it, it looks good

Thanks for your quick response.

My problem is , My MP wrote letter to UK BA on 6th of this month. Still i haven't received any decision till now nor my MP also didn't received any response.

When i contact my MP last week (friday) , her PA replied me that they would not expect to have response for three weeks.

This is bit worrying for me.

[ryan2020]

In Spaual case. UKBA reply within 2 days. I think his decision was ready when MP contacted UKBA..

[spaul]

Just thought to let you know.. I had a chat with my accountant last week and he has 4-5 cases waiting for 2-3 months. Legitimate cases according to him. These are postal application for ILR though...HO running short of resources and moved lot of people to Heathrow, that's what he said me

[spaul]

In Spaual case. UKBA reply within 2 days. I think his decision was ready when MP contacted UKBA..

Nopes. My MP contacted HO on 16th July and HO approved me ILR on 21st July i.e Saturday. This date was on the approval letter. It was the same CW who deferred my case as signature matches and voice matched when she called me.

[Krishnalvr]

In Spaual case. UKBA reply within 2 days. I think his decision was ready when MP contacted UKBA..

Nopes. My MP contacted HO on 16th July and HO approved me ILR on 21st July i.e Saturday. This date was on the approval letter. It was the same CW who deferred my case as signature matches and voice matched when she called me.

May i know the name of case worker , who differed your application please?

[ryan2020]

In Spaual case. UKBA reply within 2 days. I think his decision was ready when MP contacted UKBA..

Nopes. My MP contacted HO on 16th July and HO approved me ILR on 21st July i.e Saturday. This date was on the approval letter. It was the same CW who deferred my case as signature matches and voice matched when she called me.

OK but for other people they having response from their MP's that it will take 3 week for UKBA to reply them. in your case was 3-4 days.. lucky

[spaul]

In Spaual case. UKBA reply within 2 days. I think his decision was ready when MP contacted UKBA..

Nopes. My MP contacted HO on 16th July and HO approved me ILR on 21st July i.e Saturday. This date was on the approval letter. It was the same CW who deferred my case as signature matches and voice matched when she called me.

May i know the name of case worker , who differed your application please?

CW does not write name.. they just sign it. At least that's what happened in my case. Deriving full name from a tiny signature is nearly impossibly. I tried.. failed.

[Krishnalvr]

In Spaual case. UKBA reply within 2 days. I think his decision was ready when MP contacted UKBA..

Nopes. My MP contacted HO on 16th July and HO approved me ILR on 21st July i.e Saturday. This date was on the approval letter. It was the same CW who deferred my case as signature matches and voice matched when she called me.

May i know the name of case worker , who differed your application please?

CW does not write name.. they just sign it. At least that's what happened in my case. Deriving full name from a tiny signature is nearly impossibly. I tried.. failed.

In my case , she has signed and mentioned the name also in the letter.

I don't know , how they are sorting the cases ?

My case is similar to your case. if they are not satisfied they need to send some response. This is Panicking. It is stressful. They don’t respond emails and they don’t respond phone calls.

[spaul]

In Spaual case. UKBA reply within 2 days. I think his decision was ready when MP contacted UKBA..

Nopes. My MP contacted HO on 16th July and HO approved me ILR on 21st July i.e Saturday. This date was on the approval letter. It was the same CW who deferred my case as signature matches and voice matched when she called me.

OK but for other people they having response from their MP's that it will take 3 week for UKBA to reply them. in your case was 3-4 days.. lucky

I would not call it entirely luck honestly. How you provide tangible format of your issues, that matters a lot!! In my case, I was really in the verge of losing my business contract for ILR as I did not have change to get extension because I did not maintain maintenance fund. I created my impact analysis based on my businesses i.e VAT, corp tax, subcontracting to local businesses etc. They had real numbers that can impact British economy.

In the guideline above - what shall you write to MP, I mentioned about "what would impact British economy or social values etc.". I believe , that prioritises your cases to MP and defintely MP changes his/her tone while sending letter to HO.

To give some example, I have seen someone in this forum had issues with ILR and was preventing her to meet her family elsewhere. That's a real emotional case for you and MP will prioritise.
Another example would be, if you are in business, if you dont get ILR on time, contracting agencies dont always accept "right to work in the UK" website information while application is in process. Thus your VAT or CORP tax have greated impact on UK economy and if you have business for many years. That matters. MP has special interests on this side.
If you have family members who are in specialist medications in NHS and your case is on hold. That's lot of stress for you and not right. This makes your case emotionally very strong to MP.
These are typical example. reading MP's roles and responsibilites would help anyone and then try matching up your issues. Just be honest and phrase your issue.

If we dont get ILR, it's we who get the benefit. But behind the scene, country gets benefit in many ways - taxes, social diversity etc
Let them know this in a nice way, that would help.

I have googled for letters wrote to MP and read many letters to understand how people write letters to MP for their local issues. Most were non-immigration issues. If you try the same, would help.

[Krishnalvr]

In Spaual case. UKBA reply within 2 days. I think his decision was ready when MP contacted UKBA..

Nopes. My MP contacted HO on 16th July and HO approved me ILR on 21st July i.e Saturday. This date was on the approval letter. It was the same CW who deferred my case as signature matches and voice matched when she called me.

OK but for other people they having response from their MP's that it will take 3 week for UKBA to reply them. in your case was 3-4 days.. lucky

I would not call it entirely luck honestly. How you provide tangible format of your issues, that matters a lot!! In my case, I was really in the verge of losing my business contract for ILR as I did not have change to get extension because I did not maintain maintenance fund. I created my impact analysis based on my businesses i.e VAT, corp tax, subcontracting to local businesses etc. They had real numbers that can impact British economy.

In the guideline above - what shall you write to MP, I mentioned about "what would impact British economy or social values etc.". I believe , that prioritises your cases to MP and defintely MP changes his/her tone while sending letter to HO.

To give some example, I have seen someone in this forum had issues with ILR and was preventing her to meet her family elsewhere. That's a real emotional case for you and MP will prioritise.
Another example would be, if you are in business, if you dont get ILR on time, contracting agencies dont always accept "right to work in the UK" website information while application is in process. Thus your VAT or CORP tax have greated impact on UK economy and if you have business for many years. That matters. MP has special interests on this side.
If you have family members who are in specialist medications in NHS and your case is on hold. That's lot of stress for you and not right. This makes your case emotionally very strong to MP.
These are typical example. reading MP's roles and responsibilites would help anyone and then try matching up your issues. Just be honest and phrase your issue.

If we dont get ILR, it's we who get the benefit. But behind the scene, country gets benefit in many ways - taxes, social diversity etc
Let them know this in a nice way, that would help.

I have googled for letters wrote to MP and read many letters to understand how people write letters to MP for their local issues. Most were non-immigration issues. If you try the same, would help.

Now I understood,

I mentioned in the MP’s mail that I need to apply naturalisation for newly born twins and they are not having any passport status.

May be this has given less priority in the sorting.

[spaul]

Nopes. My MP contacted HO on 16th July and HO approved me ILR on 21st July i.e Saturday. This date was on the approval letter. It was the same CW who deferred my case as signature matches and voice matched when she called me.

May i know the name of case worker , who differed your application please?

CW does not write name.. they just sign it. At least that's what happened in my case. Deriving full name from a tiny signature is nearly impossibly. I tried.. failed.

In my case , she has signed and mentioned the name also in the letter.

I don't know , how they are sorting the cases ?

My case is similar to your case. if they are not satisfied they need to send some response. This is Panicking. It is stressful. They don’t respond emails and they don’t respond phone calls.

If I remember correctly, you mentioned earlier than you have visa until April 2014. On the ILR form, there is a question on - when would your visa expire. There must be a reason behind that question so that HO can prioritises cases. It's not always first in and first out in the queue. That's what I think going through many people's cases.

If you have a solid reson (impact analysis) for CW to look into your cases urgently, say that in a covering letter or write to MP. That would help. Just my view.

I heard from many people that HO are literally stressed out as you may have read newspaper and seen they are out of resources. On top of that Olympics. So things are delayed big time.

[ryan2020]

I would not call it entirely luck honestly. How you provide tangible format of your issues, that matters a lot!! In my case, I was really in the verge of losing my business contract for ILR as I did not have change to get extension because I did not maintain maintenance fund. I created my impact analysis based on my businesses i.e VAT, corp tax, subcontracting to local businesses etc. They had real numbers that can impact British economy.

In the guideline above - what shall you write to MP, I mentioned about "what would impact British economy or social values etc.". I believe , that prioritises your cases to MP and defintely MP changes his/her tone while sending letter to HO.

To give some example, I have seen someone in this forum had issues with ILR and was preventing her to meet her family elsewhere. That's a real emotional case for you and MP will prioritise.
Another example would be, if you are in business, if you dont get ILR on time, contracting agencies dont always accept "right to work in the UK" website information while application is in process. Thus your VAT or CORP tax have greated impact on UK economy and if you have business for many years. That matters. MP has special interests on this side.
If you have family members who are in specialist medications in NHS and your case is on hold. That's lot of stress for you and not right. This makes your case emotionally very strong to MP.
These are typical example. reading MP's roles and responsibilites would help anyone and then try matching up your issues. Just be honest and phrase your issue.

If we dont get ILR, it's we who get the benefit. But behind the scene, country gets benefit in many ways - taxes, social diversity etc
Let them know this in a nice way, that would help.

I have googled for letters wrote to MP and read many letters to understand how people write letters to MP for their local issues. Most were non-immigration issues. If you try the same, would help.[/quote]


Thanks for the Brief reply. it all depends on circumstances of the business. I do small contracts means will not generate much Crop TAX and VAT so It can't put much impact on UK economy from my company

Still i like to thank you for the advice. it will help us all.

[spaul]

May i know the name of case worker , who differed your application please?

CW does not write name.. they just sign it. At least that's what happened in my case. Deriving full name from a tiny signature is nearly impossibly. I tried.. failed.

In my case , she has signed and mentioned the name also in the letter.

I don't know , how they are sorting the cases ?

My case is similar to your case. if they are not satisfied they need to send some response. This is Panicking. It is stressful. They don’t respond emails and they don’t respond phone calls.

If I remember correctly, you mentioned earlier than you have visa until April 2014. On the ILR form, there is a question on - when would your visa expire. There must be a reason behind that question so that HO can prioritises cases. It's not always first in and first out in the queue. That's what I think going through many people's cases.

If you have a solid reson (impact analysis) for CW to look into your cases urgently, say that in a covering letter or write to MP. That would help. Just my view.

I heard from many people that HO are literally stressed out as you may have read newspaper and seen they are out of resources. On top of that Olympics. So things are delayed big time.

You have more options.. as you know the name of the CW, you can write a letter to her/him stating if they need additional documents or ask her to call or even state the urgency of your application. You can use this letter as a reference point to MP. It seems to me that your case to MP would be - "expediting communication process in HO". I believe HO's SLA is 6 months - I read somewhere but I could be wrong!!! So you can only ask MP for communication expeditation and not seek to get a decision. It's just my understanding of the entire system.

[ryan2020]

very good point regarding expiry of visa. But spaul things are delayed then HO should not charge the premium fee. Why people pay premium fee to get the visa sooner.
Its HO fault if they can't handle much application shortage of resources / Olympics.
in this case what should a ordinary citizen do ? what if he want to see his old parents back home or unable to secure a big contract etc. he don't care either its Olympics or short of resources. he wants the visa.

[spaul]

I would not call it entirely luck honestly. How you provide tangible format of your issues, that matters a lot!! In my case, I was really in the verge of losing my business contract for ILR as I did not have change to get extension because I did not maintain maintenance fund. I created my impact analysis based on my businesses i.e VAT, corp tax, subcontracting to local businesses etc. They had real numbers that can impact British economy.

In the guideline above - what shall you write to MP, I mentioned about "what would impact British economy or social values etc.". I believe , that prioritises your cases to MP and defintely MP changes his/her tone while sending letter to HO.

To give some example, I have seen someone in this forum had issues with ILR and was preventing her to meet her family elsewhere. That's a real emotional case for you and MP will prioritise.
Another example would be, if you are in business, if you dont get ILR on time, contracting agencies dont always accept "right to work in the UK" website information while application is in process. Thus your VAT or CORP tax have greated impact on UK economy and if you have business for many years. That matters. MP has special interests on this side.
If you have family members who are in specialist medications in NHS and your case is on hold. That's lot of stress for you and not right. This makes your case emotionally very strong to MP.
These are typical example. reading MP's roles and responsibilites would help anyone and then try matching up your issues. Just be honest and phrase your issue.

If we dont get ILR, it's we who get the benefit. But behind the scene, country gets benefit in many ways - taxes, social diversity etc
Let them know this in a nice way, that would help.

I have googled for letters wrote to MP and read many letters to understand how people write letters to MP for their local issues. Most were non-immigration issues. If you try the same, would help.

Thanks for the Brief reply. it all depends on circumstances of the business. I do small contracts means will not generate much Crop TAX and VAT so It can't put much impact on UK economy from my company

Still i like to thank you for the advice. it will help us all.[/quote]

Nopes. You are wrong. As you do busineses (small or big contract does not matter), you have lot to say..
1. Any VAT and CORP tax accounted seriously in Govt. So MP would understand. Not the value but the item itself
2. If you are a director, MP would see you as a local entrepreneur as you can upscale your business in your industry and bring local jobs. Unless you have ILR, you can expand! right?
3. You have accountant or business insurnaces etc - these subcontracts helps economy.

If you would not have been here today, a full time perm person would have been doing the job and economy would not have got the 20% VAT on the invoices oreven this job would have been offshored already!

It's a differnt way for perm employees. As they pay highest taxes and NI contribution a lot more. So their points are taxes and NI and the impact on the system.

Hope this helps

[ryan2020]

CW does not write name.. they just sign it. At least that's what happened in my case. Deriving full name from a tiny signature is nearly impossibly. I tried.. failed.

In my case , she has signed and mentioned the name also in the letter.

I don't know , how they are sorting the cases ?

My case is similar to your case. if they are not satisfied they need to send some response. This is Panicking. It is stressful. They don’t respond emails and they don’t respond phone calls.

If I remember correctly, you mentioned earlier than you have visa until April 2014. On the ILR form, there is a question on - when would your visa expire. There must be a reason behind that question so that HO can prioritises cases. It's not always first in and first out in the queue. That's what I think going through many people's cases.

If you have a solid reson (impact analysis) for CW to look into your cases urgently, say that in a covering letter or write to MP. That would help. Just my view.

I heard from many people that HO are literally stressed out as you may have read newspaper and seen they are out of resources. On top of that Olympics. So things are delayed big time.

You have more options.. as you know the name of the CW, you can write a letter to her/him stating if they need additional documents or ask her to call or even state the urgency of your application. You can use this letter as a reference point to MP. It seems to me that your case to MP would be - "expediting communication process in HO". I believe HO's SLA is 6 months - I read somewhere but I could be wrong!!! So you can only ask MP for communication expeditation and not seek to get a decision. It's just my understanding of the entire system.

CW letter clearly states that do not contact ukba unless you hear from us. means one should not contact them asking them if they need any more documents etc,

[spaul]

very good point regarding expiry of visa. But spaul things are delayed then HO should not charge the premium fee. Why people pay premium fee to get the visa sooner.
Its HO fault if they can't handle much application shortage of resources / Olympics.
in this case what should a ordinary citizen do ? what if he want to see his old parents back home or unable to secure a big contract etc. he don't care either its Olympics or short of resources. he wants the visa.

Absolutely agree! That's a policy issue of HO. Writting these issues to CW or HO would not help but you can raise HO policy issues to MP, non-ethical practises i.e premium service but 2nd classs delivery for deferred cases or value for money etc. But be specific to your case. I raised these points when I wrote to MP

[spaul]

In my case , she has signed and mentioned the name also in the letter.

I don't know , how they are sorting the cases ?

My case is similar to your case. if they are not satisfied they need to send some response. This is Panicking. It is stressful. They don’t respond emails and they don’t respond phone calls.

If I remember correctly, you mentioned earlier than you have visa until April 2014. On the ILR form, there is a question on - when would your visa expire. There must be a reason behind that question so that HO can prioritises cases. It's not always first in and first out in the queue. That's what I think going through many people's cases.

If you have a solid reson (impact analysis) for CW to look into your cases urgently, say that in a covering letter or write to MP. That would help. Just my view.

I heard from many people that HO are literally stressed out as you may have read newspaper and seen they are out of resources. On top of that Olympics. So things are delayed big time.

You have more options.. as you know the name of the CW, you can write a letter to her/him stating if they need additional documents or ask her to call or even state the urgency of your application. You can use this letter as a reference point to MP. It seems to me that your case to MP would be - "expediting communication process in HO". I believe HO's SLA is 6 months - I read somewhere but I could be wrong!!! So you can only ask MP for communication expeditation and not seek to get a decision. It's just my understanding of the entire system.

CW letter clearly states that do not contact ukba unless you hear from us. means one should not contact them asking them if they need any more documents etc,

Yes. That's the policy from HO unfortunately. What I did I can tell you.. when my case was deferred, I wrote additional covering letter to explain why I need my ILR quickly along with the additional documents requested.
Not sure if that helped anything or not

[Krishnalvr]

I am completely against this. It is not the policy that they need to process the visa only when they get the letter from MP. Some ppl may aware that they need to contact MP what about others.

They need to take the decision based on the documentation they required. They are thousands of pounds for premium appointment and asking to send the document with in 14 days other wise they will reject.

Why can’t they follow the same rules? This is what creating lot of back log pool. Crap system

[spaul]

I am completely against this. It is not the policy that they need to process the visa only when they get the letter from MP. Some ppl may aware that they need to contact MP what about others.

They need to take the decision based on the documentation they required. They are thousands of pounds for premium appointment and asking to send the document with in 14 days other wise they will reject.

Why can’t they follow the same rules? This is what creating lot of back log pool. Crap system

Agree with you. I had the same questions aganist HO. You have every rights to raise this questions. I was angry with HO as well. However having said that anger does not bring solution unless we approach them and ask for our rights. So I did. HO responded me saying 6 months or something in one email. You can raise questions on the policy and procedure and ask your rights. They can not ignore on

[Krishnalvr]

I am completely against this. It is not the policy that they need to process the visa only when they get the letter from MP. Some ppl may aware that they need to contact MP what about others.

They need to take the decision based on the documentation they required. They are thousands of pounds for premium appointment and asking to send the document with in 14 days other wise they will reject.

Why can’t they follow the same rules? This is what creating lot of back log pool. Crap system

Agree with you. I had the same questions aganist HO. You have every rights to raise this questions. I was angry with HO as well. However having said that anger does not bring solution unless we approach them and ask for our rights. So I did. HO responded me saying 6 months or something in one email. You can raise questions on the policy and procedure and ask your rights. They can not ignore on

From which email address , you have received the response ?

[spaul]

I am completely against this. It is not the policy that they need to process the visa only when they get the letter from MP. Some ppl may aware that they need to contact MP what about others.

They need to take the decision based on the documentation they required. They are thousands of pounds for premium appointment and asking to send the document with in 14 days other wise they will reject.

Why can’t they follow the same rules? This is what creating lot of back log pool. Crap system

Agree with you. I had the same questions aganist HO. You have every rights to raise this questions. I was angry with HO as well. However having said that anger does not bring solution unless we approach them and ask for our rights. So I did. HO responded me saying 6 months or something in one email. You can raise questions on the policy and procedure and ask your rights. They can not ignore on

From which email address , you have received the response ?

SettlementOpsPolicy@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk
They will only reply about policy and your rights. They wont respond if you ask about your application.

[tar123zan]

Hi, I finally received my passport today with ILR visa on (not biometric).
I applied 6 months ago as I wrote before. After a long silence, 3-4 weeks ago, I received a letter from UKBA asking almost everything again (address details for me and my wife, bank documents, business details, pay slips). I posted every related document I had. We got additional letters from GP's showing our names and address on. One GP charged for 25 and the other 15 pounds.
I was very stressed and had serious sleeping disorder during this 6 months time. I hope you all get your visas soon.

Hi, I applied for ILR personally in Croydon in 24 January 2012 as a spouse. Although PEO were satisfied that we are living together, they asked me to post further address showing documents. In a few days time, I posted what they asked but since then I am waiting for a decision. It's been more than 4 months now. I called twice, they only told me that they received supporting documents and I should wait and I shouldn't contact unless 6 months has passed.

[sapeyuk]

I received my BRP card today so thought I should update here with my application's time line :

Application Timeline -

Applied at PEO : 06/06/2012
Contacted MP : 17/07/2012
Received MP reply: 19/07/2012

Received call from UKBA: 19/07/2012

Collected passport from PEO: 20/07/2012

Received BRP card: 24/07/2012
Date of BRP issue: 19/07/2012
BRP valid until: 06/06/2022