EEA3 +EEA4 Documents required.

[varna1983]

Did your wife ask about her application or your application? The 6 months is only relevant to the non EEA national. The regulations require the HO to issue the EEA national the PR confirmation ASAP (the legislation actually uses that term).

Asking for her passport back might trigger the issue of the CoA. Worth a try.

Hi jambo and thnx for ur activity on the forum, however i wanna discuss this issue abput the legislation regarding eea applicants. The term asap means actually nothing as asap is not a definitive term and can mean anything from 1 day to 6 months! I have written to an MP who also wrote to HO and they replied that they r dealing with all applications within 6 months...therefore there is a deficiency in the legislation as the asap term is not certain and basically HO are abusing people based on the power granted by the asap specification..

[Jambo]

Reading the legislation again,it is interesting that the directice uses the term "immediately" with regards to Residence Certificate (EEA1) but "ASAP" for PR confirmation (EEA3).

However, regardless of how long it takes, it should not really have a real impact on the EEA national life. Just ask for your passport back. Legally, the HO is not required to issue a CoA for PR application (the logic I presume is that the RC should still be valid).

[presido007]

I was really hoping that you were posting back to say all is well and that you had everything!

LOL....you can imagin how fustrated this can be, this guys don't have any empathy, they dont care and they are very rude on the phone. I have sent 8 emails and 4 letters and no respond to any of my letters or emails. I have now lost count how may times I call them and they keep telling me to wait until 6 months before I call them. what is the point calling them after 6 months to request for COA?

I am in the very same situation so i understand u very well and a friend of mine who made the very same application and documents like me got her pr in 3 weeks and im already waiting 4 months!!! Bizaaaarrreee...

When did your friend made her application? have you called HO? have you received your COA? because it seems people that apllied since March have not heard anything back from HO.

[presido007]

Reading the legislation again,it is interesting that the directice uses the term "immediately" with regards to Residence Certificate (EEA1) but "ASAP" for PR confirmation (EEA3).

However, regardless of how long it takes, it should not really have a real impact on the EEA national life. Just ask for your passport back. Legally, the HO is not required to issue a CoA for PR application (the logic I presume is that the RC should still be valid).

Jambo, am a little bit confused, what do you mean by, Legally, the HO is not required to issue a CoA for PR application, do you mean for EEA National (EEA3)?

[varna1983]

I was really hoping that you were posting back to say all is well and that you had everything!

LOL....you can imagin how fustrated this can be, this guys don't have any empathy, they dont care and they are very rude on the phone. I have sent 8 emails and 4 letters and no respond to any of my letters or emails. I have now lost count how may times I call them and they keep telling me to wait until 6 months before I call them. what is the point calling them after 6 months to request for COA?

I am in the very same situation so i understand u very well and a friend of mine who made the very same application and documents like me got her pr in 3 weeks and im already waiting 4 months!!! Bizaaaarrreee...

When did your friend made her application? have you called HO? have you received your COA? because it seems people that apllied since March have not heard anything back from HO.

My friend applied in March(end) and got it in 3 weeks, I dont need Coa as i am an EU national...EEA3 application...and yeah Jumbo, the legislation for RC is very clear as to timeline stating precisely- the word immediately whereas for PR the term asap is "very clear".... i have called last month for my passport return and after 4 weeks(im not exadurating) and several calls and email and faxes i received it back just last week without PR...so this was the other complete joke by HO. I filled a complain over d email since i had to travel on a business trip abroad and couldnt cuz of them messing around with my pass..demanding for compensation for my ticket, etc but as of today there is no response whatsoever...however im not gonna leave things like that and will sue them no matter what as im so frustrated by their missbehaviour....

[Jambo]

Reading the legislation again,it is interesting that the directice uses the term "immediately" with regards to Residence Certificate (EEA1) but "ASAP" for PR confirmation (EEA3).

However, regardless of how long it takes, it should not really have a real impact on the EEA national life. Just ask for your passport back. Legally, the HO is not required to issue a CoA for PR application (the logic I presume is that the RC should still be valid).

Jambo, am a little bit confused, what do you mean by, Legally, the HO is not required to issue a CoA for PR application, do you mean for EEA National (EEA3)?

No. EEA national are never issued a CoA. They are just issued with the residence document. For non EEA national, the directice only requires the HO to issue a CoA for RC application not PR Confirmation (although they do issue it for PR confirmation also).

[presido007]

Finally, after three and a half months of waiting for CoA, I have sent five emails, three recorded delivery letters to HO and more than fifteen (15) phone calls to HO. then two complaint letter to their complaint dept and also sent copies of the complaint to SOLVIT, then two days later I received a reply from SOLVIT for more documents from me, which I sent to them, after a week, I received my CoA today, dated 26/06/2012. and a special delivery card left by the postman because I wasn't at home when he came, that there is a parcel I need to sign for. I suspect it might be our passports. or just my wife's passport as we have requested for her passport to be returned for more than four weeks, and she had to call so many times and they kept requesting it each time she calls them.

anyway, the goodnews is that I have now received my much awaited CoA and with the right to work.

special thanks to JAMBO and EUsmileWEallsmile, you guys are wonderful, I think, you have used your well broaded knowledge to help so many people on this forum. THANK YOU

[EUsmileWEallsmile]

I am really pleased for you. I wish you all the best! Take care!

[presido007]

I am really pleased for you. I wish you all the best! Take care!

Thank you, i appreciate it. I will keep you guys updated when I recieve my PR.

[presido007]

Today, the post man delivered my wife's PR dated 26/06/2012. Am sure they will send mine soon.
Am not sure if because I wrote a letter to complain to HO or because I sent a letter to Solvit that made HO to respond within a week I complained. Anyway, it doesn't matter now because I have CoA and my wife's PR.

[presido007]

I have a quick question, when EEA3 PR is issued by HO, does that mean EEA4 PR is sure?

[Jambo]

Well, nothing is certain in life but you should be fine.

For you to qualify for PR Confirmation if one was granted to the EEA national depends on:

1. You prove your identity.
2. You prove you are a family member.
3. You haven't been away for more than 6 months a year.

Not very difficult to prove (which makes you wonder why it takes them so long to decide...)

[presido007]

Well, nothing is certain in life but you should be fine.

For you to qualify for PR Confirmation if one was granted to the EEA national depends on:

1. You prove your identity.
2. You prove you are a family member.
3. You haven't been away for more than 6 months a year.

Not very difficult to prove (which makes you wonder why it takes them so long to decide...)

you are right Jambo, nothing is certain in life, things can change at anytime. I have been wondering why it takes HO 6 months to verify all these conditions 1. your identity. 2. you are a family member. 3. You haven't been away for more than 6 months a year.

[Jambo]

It doesn't. It's a matter of priority. They are probably under staffed and have other more urgent applications to deal with (ones who are closer to the 6 months mark).

[presido007]

Now that my wife has uptained PR can we now register my baby that was born three years ago as British citizen?

second question, does that mean, after we register her as a British Citizen we can then apply for her British Passport immidiately or do we still need to wait for a number of years before we can apply for her British Passport?

Because, I was looking to register her as British citizen and apply for her British Passport immediately, but I dont understand how the system works on registeration of babies born in uk by non British parents as British citizen.

[Jambo]

Registration is applying for British citizenship. Full stop. If granted, the child is Brtish citizen. There is no more stages to take. You can apply for a passport the day you recieve the approval.

See Citizenship FAQs - Common Questions - Read before posting - Children.

[presido007]

Registration is applying for British citizenship. Full stop. If granted, the child is Brtish citizen. There is no more stages to take. You can apply for a passport the day you recieve the approval.

See Citizenship FAQs - Common Questions - Read before posting - Children.

thanks Jambo, I appreciate it.

[presido007]

I came back from work and I saw a letter from HO, I thought they sent me a letter to request for more documents, only to discover it was CoA. why will HO send me CoA twice, they sent me the first one last month and today they have sent me another CoA.
What could this mean? are they confused or what? can they not see it on there system that they have sent me CoA before? or could this mean they will send my PR soon?

[anp]

I came back from work and I saw a letter from HO, I thought they sent me a letter to request for more documents, only to discover it was CoA. why will HO send me CoA twice, they sent me the first one last month and today they have sent me another CoA.
What could this mean? are they confused or what? can they not see it on there system that they have sent me CoA before? or could this mean they will send my PR soon?

Perhaps the initial caseworker no longer works there. It shows they perhaps haven't got a decent system afterall.

[wanyora]

any luck? i have been waiting for 5 month.EU need to sit and review this waiting time.skilled worker regardless of where they come from will walk to home office and come out them their indefinite yet EU have to wait for ever. I wish some one know how frustrating it is to wait.what do they do with the papers all this time?

[varna1983]

any luck? i have been waiting for 5 month.EU need to sit and review this waiting time.skilled worker regardless of where they come from will walk to home office and come out them their indefinite yet EU have to wait for ever. I wish some one know how frustrating it is to wait.what do they do with the papers all this time?

I will tell u what- they r so incompetent and ignorent, yet non educated banch of africans deciding on cases they havent got a clue of...

[presido007]

any luck? i have been waiting for 5 month.EU need to sit and review this waiting time.skilled worker regardless of where they come from will walk to home office and come out them their indefinite yet EU have to wait for ever. I wish some one know how frustrating it is to wait.what do they do with the papers all this time?

I am still waiting, though september 17, 2012 will make it exactly six months I have been waiting for my EEA4 PR. it is really fustrating as I can't go on holiday. I have already waited for five months, I will wait for the remaining one month if nothing happens, I will be on the phone calling them four times a day, everyday until they send my PR to me. it has been a very stressful and agonising wait.

[presido007]

any luck? i have been waiting for 5 month.EU need to sit and review this waiting time.skilled worker regardless of where they come from will walk to home office and come out them their indefinite yet EU have to wait for ever. I wish some one know how frustrating it is to wait.what do they do with the papers all this time?

I will tell u what- they r so incompetent and ignorent, yet non educated banch of africans deciding on cases they havent got a clue of...

WOW! you need to becareful with your language, that is a whole CONTINENT that you have just insaulted. I know you are fustrated with the process, so am I and am from africa, so I will not use those words, "non educated bunch of africans" there are many people from different backgrounds that work in UKBA and that include people from Asia, America, Europe, Africa etc, and they all work for UKBA not as African representatives.

I wonder where you got this fact from.

[EUsmileWEallsmile]

any luck? i have been waiting for 5 month.EU need to sit and review this waiting time.skilled worker regardless of where they come from will walk to home office and come out them their indefinite yet EU have to wait for ever. I wish some one know how frustrating it is to wait.what do they do with the papers all this time?

I will tell u what- they r so incompetent and ignorent, yet non educated banch of africans deciding on cases they havent got a clue of...

WOW! you need to becareful with your language, that is a whole CONTINENT that you have just insaulted. I know you are fustrated with the process, so am I and am from africa, so I will not use those words, "non educated bunch of africans" there are many people from different backgrounds that work in UKBA and that include people from Asia, America, Europe, Africa etc, and they all work for UKBA not as African representatives.

I wonder where you got this fact from.

well said, sir!

BTW - I'm sorry you are still waiting. Hope to read your good news soon.

[presido007]

Guys, my eea4 PR arrived today, issued on 25/08/2012.

goodluck if you are still waiting.