Naturalisation - self employed

alanko07 · Post by **alanko07** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:35 pm

hi
planning to apply by next 1-2 weeks
my wife has registered as self employed by jan 2012, get her UTR by march 2012..
according to guide AN, she should submit latest "self assessment statement" ? (she has still till jan 2013 deadline to file her first financial year tax returns for 2011-2012 )
after reading some posts here, we are planning now to submit all correspondence she had, including the CIS Class 2 NIC's bill and bank statement showing she paid it, in addition to other letters from hmrc

but the fact that the guide insisted she must provide latest "self assessment statement" and nothing about what if she don't have one, kind worrying us that they may reject it.

any advice? and can anyone explain how we can get the latest "self assessment statement" if possible?

will appreciate any help

Post by **Jambo** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:24 am

I don't think the guide insists on providing self assessment. You can't provide one if you don't have one. SA is not a requirement. This is used by the HO to verify that your tax are in order as part of the good character criteria. The HO can always verify it with HMRC if they wish.

Is she applying as a spouse of BC? In that case, self assessment is not required (although this is not clear from the form/guide). See Self employment, citizenship as married to british citizen.

solospy · Post by **solospy** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:22 am

i was in the same position when i applied for my natrualisation on 3rd Sept 2012. I worked through PAYE up till 11 April 2012 and registered my limited company on 12th April 2012. I enclosed my accountant letter which explained that all my tax returns will be due for filling in 2014.

i would say you should enclose your accountant letter with the application together with your PAYE and self employed ref numbers on the form.

alanko07 · Post by **alanko07** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:13 pm

solospy wrote:i was in the same position when i applied for my natrualisation on 3rd Sept 2012. I worked through PAYE up till 11 April 2012 and registered my limited company on 12th April 2012. I enclosed my accountant letter which explained that all my tax returns will be due for filling in 2014.

i would say you should enclose your accountant letter with the application together with your PAYE and self employed ref numbers on the form.

thanks for the reply
she is doing her taxes by herself as self employed, so guess she need to write a letter herself then to explain it
thanks again for the reply

alanko07 · Post by **alanko07** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:18 pm

Jambo wrote:I don't think the guide insists on providing self assessment. You can't provide one if you don't have one. SA is not a requirement. This is used by the HO to verify that your tax are in order as part of the good character criteria. The HO can always verify it with HMRC if they wish.

Is she applying as a spouse of BC? In that case, self assessment is not required (although this is not clear from the form/guide). See Self employment, citizenship as married to british citizen.

cheers for the feedback
NO.. she is applying with me in the same time .. she used to be under spouse of work permit holder before getting the IRL
guess she need then to write a letter and explain the situation and attach all communication with HMRC which clearly shows she just started recently
thanks again

alanko07 · Post by **alanko07** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:19 pm

another QS Pls.. in Section 2: Residence requirements: "the date and place of first arrival in UK", dose it refer to the first time we entered UK (which was as a visitor ) or the last visa we used to enter UK and granted IRL based on it?

solospy · Post by **solospy** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:40 pm

Visitor visa is a tempropry visa.

u should write the date u came here to live permanently.

alanko07 · Post by **alanko07** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:46 pm

solospy wrote:Visitor visa is a tempropry visa.

u should write the date u came here to live permanently.

cheers .. thanks for the help
but QS is which one of them?
she came her under workpermit in 2004, then we left and then come back again in 2006 under new work permit and get IRL after 5 years from the later not the first as was not counted bcz we left after she finish her work period
tbh UKBA should had explain this section better

alanko07 · Post by **alanko07** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:49 pm

another QS, my passport has expired some months ago and i had a new one been issued in june 2012.. i never transferred my IRL from old one to new one, as thought i can apply straightway to citizenship, will that cause any problem?

alanko07 · Post by **alanko07** » Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:39 pm

Pumped..
any answers to my last 2 Qs please?

Post by **Jambo** » Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:07 pm

You didn't say when you left (after coming in 2004), if the gap between the two visas is just a few months, I would put 2004. Otherwise, 2006.

Don't worry. Getting this question wrong has no affect on the application.

There is no requirement to transfer ILR to a new passport. Just apply with both of them (the old and new one).

alanko07 · Post by **alanko07** » Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:43 pm

Jambo wrote:You didn't say when you left (after coming in 2004), if the gap between the two visas is just a few months, I would put 2004. Otherwise, 2006.

Don't worry. Getting this question wrong has no affect on the application.

There is no requirement to transfer ILR to a new passport. Just apply with both of them (the old and new one).

yes there was a gap of one month
this is why IRL was granted based on 2006 one
so guess will write 2006 one then
thanks for the reply & help

alanko07 · Post by **alanko07** » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:04 pm

another Qs regarding referees
i gone with 2 directors of Limited company (which am a director too)
Q1 -hope that is not a problem..
Q2- should the company be long time trading or it doesn't matter? ex: if company didn't started trading yet due to slow market ...etc?
Q3- i know both of directors have no imprisonable offence, but i know one had some traffic penalties and was a director of a company which was liquidated.. would that be a problem?

cheers
again

alanko07 · Post by **alanko07** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:43 pm

pumped
anyone can help pls?

aprilclub · Post by **aprilclub** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:41 pm

alanko07 wrote: she came her under workpermit in 2004, then we left and then come back again in 2006 under new work permit and get IRL after 5 years from the later not the first as was not counted bcz we left after she finish her work period
tbh UKBA should had explain this section better

Saying 2006 is fine

My situation :

Came here on a 4 years WP (dependent visa) in 2003
2005 left the country
2006 re-entered the country with a new visa valid for 4 years from 2006 ( note the old visa is still running)
In my ( and hubby's application, we have always given the start date as 2006, not 2003. ( For ILR, and citizenship application)

Did not create a problem

alanko07 · Post by **alanko07** » Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:35 am

aprilclub wrote:
alanko07 wrote: she came her under workpermit in 2004, then we left and then come back again in 2006 under new work permit and get IRL after 5 years from the later not the first as was not counted bcz we left after she finish her work period
tbh UKBA should had explain this section better
Saying 2006 is fine

My situation :

Came here on a 4 years WP (dependent visa) in 2003
2005 left the country
2006 re-entered the country with a new visa valid for 4 years from 2006 ( note the old visa is still running)
In my ( and hubby's application, we have always given the start date as 2006, not 2003. ( For ILR, and citizenship application)

Did not create a problem

cheers .. will do that

thanks alot

any other advice though to my Qs regarding referees

Post by **geriatrix** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:49 am

alanko07 wrote:I have an appointment with NCS tomorrow and just discovered that my 2nd referee had used a british passport number which was expired in 2011 (as he didn't renew it as he don't travel).. so dose it matter? should i postponed the NCS appointment to redo that ? or should i write under it "(last passport no. - expired in 2011)"

alanko07 · Post by **alanko07** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:23 am

I have an appointment with NCS tomorrow and just discovered that my 2nd referee had used a british passport number which was expired in 2011 (as he didn't renew it as he don't travel).. so dose it matter? should i postponed the NCS appointment to redo that ? or should i write under it "(last passport no. - expired in 2011)"

Glc · Post by **Glc** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:48 am

It doesn't matter if your referee's passport has expired. The passport will only be used to verify If indeed your referee is British.

alanko07 · Post by **alanko07** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:33 am

Glc wrote:It doesn't matter if your referee's passport has expired. The passport will only be used to verify If indeed your referee is British.

cheers.. then should i add (last passport - expired in 2011)?
bcz it say "current passport"?

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Naturalisation - self employed

Naturalisation - self employed