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by nnj10 » Sun Jan 21, 2007 6:42 am
Hi All members interested in my case,
I have done the NARIC Evaluation for my bachelor degree, and it is comparable to the British Bachelor (Hons.). I got full 30 points for the Qualification section. Had I not submitted the NARIC letter of comparison, perhaps without looking into NARIC databse, they could have rejected me saying you do not score, as your degree is not recognised by NARIC
As far as I know, NARIC does not offer to the individuals for checking the comparibility for English Langugae taught degree with IELTS Band 6.
I dont know how come my C.W. got that input from NARIC, that the degree certificate provided by me, is not recognised by NARIC, as equivalent to the IELTS Band 6?
The lesson learned is that, the HSMP guidance notes is not transparent and fair, it has a lot hidden into it. They did not specify that besides getting the letter from the awarding body(which included that the degree was taught in English Language), one needs to check how it compares with IELTS below/above Band 6?
The exact reason of rejection is as below:
1. You have stated that you have previously gained an English language qualification that is equivalent to IELTS Band 6.
2. The certificate is not recognised as equivalent to the IELTS Band 6 by NARIC.
3. In line with the published guidance, the evidence provided has been assessed as insufficient to meet the English language requirement.
My objections to all three points/reasons above are:
1. I have not stated either in cover letter or Appl. form anywhere that I have gained an English language qualification that is equivalent to IELTS Band 6. What I had written was for the Bachelor degree section for which I got 30 points, that I am submitting the letter of comparison from UK NARIC, which evaluated by degree as comparable to the British Bachelor (Hons.) degree standard.
2. For an applicant, how do he check with NARIC that the degree is comparable to IELTS Band 6? Personally I am not aware of that NARIC offer any such service. I have written an e-mail to NARIC for the same.
And I will call them too for the same when their office opens on Monday.
3. The published guidance (i.e. I assume is a HSMP Guidance for Applicants and not an INTERNAL CASE WORKER MANUAL), does not state the requirement for checking the englsh language for comparison with IELTS Band 6, instead, it says,
"Bachelors degree is normally taught over a period of at least three
years, during which time a candidate is required to display a level of competence in each of the four areas – listening, reading, writing and
speaking in English – equivalent to IELTS 6".
Now if we refer to the published guidance, it infers that if you have the Bachelor degree comparable to the british bachelor (by NARIC), then you would have gained a level of competence in listening, reading, writing and speaking- equivalent to IELTS 6. (borrowed from Shockboy - with Thanks)
Now, mine is a four year full time taught bachelor degree (Bachelor of Engineering) which is evaluated by NARIC, and still the case worker says it is not comparable to IELTS 6 by NARIC.
The university letter specifies that it was taught in ENGLISH.
I studies all four year, in English language. And I gained the compenetce in all four section of English language by following:
1. Listening - All four year lectures/classes were conducted in English Language by the university faculty. And I was an avid listener(And could comprehend too what my faculty was teaching), otherwise, I would not have passed the exam and gained the qualification.
2. Reading - The study text books were written in English by the western world authors(America/British mostly). I had to read this textbooks to pass my exam. Doesnt that mean, I can read ENGLISH, that is taught at Bachelor degree level?
3. Writing - All exam paper, and class notes written in English Language.
I participated in the seminars/delivered technical presentations(while in university) all in English Language. {I do not have all the evidences with me now, albeit. cause it has been long since I left my university, I cant collect all those evidence personally. would rather give up and sit IELTS}
4. Speaking - While responsing to the professor in Viva(practicle Oral exam) and during the class room session the language of speaking was mere ENGLISH. Even, while speaking to the fellow mates, and professor for any discussion it was all in English language.
I donot know how should I go ahead, with this.
I will sit the IELTS soon, but next time they may reject with any other absurd reason, beyond an Individual's comprehension.
I want to file a review, now.
Has anyone been successful in review of decison where the appl. was rejected for not meeting the ENGLISH LANGUAGE REQUIREMENT i.e. qualification is not comparable to IELTS Band 6?
Pls. share the same.
Sorry, for such a long post; but it hurts a lot if you get rejected for an absurd reason. It took me about 2 months to collect all the docs. Now If I sit for IELTS then it will be about 40 days from now, when I get my result and again I have to get new letters from my employer/CA and Bank Statements, for the earnings section with the new earnings included.
This is really frustrating.
Thanks all for sharing the information. Although I got rejected, I got a lot of guidance from this forum only. I thank to each member, who contributed here on this forum. This really helps each other.
NNJ10
