Experience at Senior or Specialist level

[anishpadela]

Is it necessary that claiming 50 points for 4 years work experience in a graduate level job including senior or specialist level work experience for 1 year shall be supported by claiming earning power points too....??
Is there anybody who got 50 points approved with senior level experience without claiming any earning power points or support documents applied under 28 years catagory??

Let me know your views...

Rgds
Anees

[anda79]

I am curious about this too. My husband and I are in the same situation. Moreover, in Romania salaries are not completly declared (taxes are huge) and that is why showing earnings would be totally irelevant in our case. Do you think this can diminish our chances to get points for senior level experience?

Kisses,
Anda

[bugmaster]

Hi all
The broadly accepted understanding of the problem on this board is that if you're about to claim senior level experience you must have earned a big salary for the time. Of course all we know that this is not the case in many countries but it might be useful to put your pay slips just to show that your salary is for example close to the range giving you the points.
No one would expect that a senior level person is getting a low salary.
To be honest I don't remember anyone on this board who recieved senior level points under 28 age. But the reason for this can be because when you're successfull and you have claimed points in many categories you can't really realise which sections you got the points from.
Hope this is useful for you.
Cheers

[kowloon]

I applied in 24 March from Hong Kong and I have just recevied a letter from HO dated 09 Aug.

Here is a paragraph of their letter, "In the work experience section, we cannot tell how senior the role of XXX is, within the company. We need to see a hierarchy of the company, showing exactly where the position is, before we can consider this section further. We would be grateful if the requested information could be forwarded to our offices by 20/09/04..."

I claimed 15 points in education, 50 points from senior work experience and 5 points for under 28 years old. (70 points)

By the way, I have justed attained to postgraduate level in education, do you all guys think that I can submit also additional information together to increase the chance...then it could be 25 + 35 +5 = 65?

Please help.

[anda79]

Bugmaster: It's completely logic and true what you are saying, but the reality in my country is not logic at all. For example my husband as project manager earns a net salary of 650 euros plus bonuses. That is 5 times the medium salary of Romania and I am sure that if we would show this as earnings it would be great as to demonstrate senior level position. The problem is that, his declared salary is of only 150 euros, because otherwise noone would hire/ pay such a salary and also taxes (for a net salary of 650 euros the employer would pay together with taxes the total amount of 1800 euros!!!!).
So, given our situation, if earnings are irelevant even disadvantageous, is there any chance that we would get points for senior level position. We have refference letter for his 3 employers (*with very detailed job description for all 3 of them, and showing organisational chart for all 3). In any case, if we don't get points for senior level we still have 65 points. Think we have a chance for approval?

[bugmaster]

The things you're saying are more than familiar to me. (I'm from Bulgaria)

I guess if you can show all the possible evidences for senior level position pay slips won't be needed. As they say the sections are not related and you don't have to submit documents for sections where you won't get any points.

I would suggest to just search this board and find as many as possible ideas about the evidences people are submitting for senioer level. Gather as much as possible, just do your best, because I have the feeling that they are not so kind to award senior level for under 28. But that's just a feeling from the results which people share on this board.
Anyway it would be best to send as many evidences as possible.
After all as per the application form payslips are not required for proving experience. Just put whatever you think have relation - use the guidelines for suggestions, read the board. I haven't claimed senior level so can't really help with ideas.

Hope this helps.
Cheers

[tgs]

A specialist roles normally earns large remunerations. Newly employed graduates for example will not fall in this category but having a Masters or PhD might indicate to them that you are indeed doing a specialist work.

Think about the HSMP application works in term of the points, you will never be able to claim you’re a specialist on only one 1. Your education. 2. Your experience 3. Your earnings. All three these points will normally influence the other.

You have to get good scores in two or more categories. If you only score good in one category and your scoring is uncertain in the other two, you taking greater risk of begin rejected.

[anishpadela]

A specialist roles normally earns large remunerations. Newly employed graduates for example will not fall in this category but having a Masters or PhD might indicate to them that you are indeed doing a specialist work.

Think about the HSMP application works in term of the points, you will never be able to claim you’re a specialist on only one 1. Your education. 2. Your experience 3. Your earnings. All three these points will normally influence the other.

You have to get good scores in two or more categories. If you only score good in one category and your scoring is uncertain in the other two, you taking greater risk of begin rejected.

Hi tgs,

I have post graduate diploma in business management in marketing and working as Marketing Manager. FYI, I started working as Marketing Manager while I started PG Diploma. So toatl 4 years of senior level experience and 1 year of junior.

Now what do u think where I stand??

Let me know your views...

[fomar]

kowloon,

what was your job title you specified in your senior experience section