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Hello Mice,mice wrote:Here is my time line
Applied FLR (M):28 feb 2012 from student visa
confirmation letter :9 feb 2012
biometrics :21 april 2012
more evidence requested :10 oct 2012
request for spouse passport 27 november
Decision : refused 30 th nov ,no right of appeal
After such a long wait I woke up to this bad news...its such a nightmare
Hello and thank you for your congratulations!Still.Waiting wrote:Congrates Tamuan, can you please tell me if you had contacted your MP and if UKBA requested additional docs from you??PaulandTamuna wrote:Hello everybody!
Finally, after almost 7 month of waiting, I've got the great news this week!
Tamuna
Thanks
Hi Micemice wrote:Here is my time line
Applied FLR (M):28 feb 2012 from student visa
confirmation letter :9 feb 2012
biometrics :21 april 2012
more evidence requested :10 oct 2012
request for spouse passport 27 november
Decision : refused 30 th nov ,no right of appeal
After such a long wait I woke up to this bad news...its such a nightmare
The guy with the most direct influence over UKBA is the UKBA Chief Executive Rob Whiteman. I've scoured the net for his email address without success. He is the person at the helm making decisions that impact how UKBA performs. He is also the person accountable to the HASC et al.luckyjinx wrote:Has anyone tried writing to the Minister for Immigration, Mark Harper? I know some have tried Theresa May, but Mark Harper seems like he'd be more directly responsible for immigration issues.
Hi mice,mice wrote:Here is my time line
Applied FLR (M):28 feb 2012 from student visa
confirmation letter :9 feb 2012
biometrics :21 april 2012
more evidence requested :10 oct 2012
request for spouse passport 27 november
Decision : refused 30 th nov ,no right of appeal
After such a long wait I woke up to this bad news...its such a nightmare
From the same internal review, there's this regarding processing out of order:10. As part of this review, UKBA has confirmed that the apparent statistical
discrepancy pointed out by Ms Jenkins in her internal review request stems from the fact that the definition of “received” FLR(M) applications differs for the report provided to Ms Jenkins (ref. 24495) and the earlier response to another requester (ref. 24296). Specifically:
FOI 24296 (3,498 applications received) is based on cases created on its case information database (CID);
FOI 24495 (1,913 applications received) is based on applications raised on its case information database (CID) i.e. the date the application was received by UKBA.
11. This potential discrepancy in reporting arises as new FLR(M) applications are not always created on CID on the date they are received, so a report generated by “date received” (i.e. application received) or “date of creation” on the case management system (i.e. the date the case was then logged on CID) will differ in the results that are produced.
12. I do not think that the explanation that UKBA cited in its response to Ms Jenkins (which explained that the figures provided are based on cases “raised” on UKBA’s case information database i.e. the date application was received by UKBA), clearly defines what “raised” means. UKBA need to ensure that the statistical data provided in its responses in future explains how the report is generated in clearer terms.
13. My understanding is that the October response to another requester had a higher number of cases “received” in that month as it was based on a report which showed the number of cases put on the case Page 3 of 9 information management system rather than the actual number of applications sent to UKBA in that month. For instance some of the cases that are put on CID in that month could have in fact been received the previous month.
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/1 ... L.pdf.htmlAre there different teams/personnel working on the applications from different dates?
We have five case working teams who consider postal FLR(M) applications, as well as dealing with applications made on form FLR(O). The teams take applications from a centralised queue of cases which are stored in date order and so do not work on
applications from different dates.
Prioritising casework
17. Ms Jenkins asks in her internal review request: “What is the real reason that so many March applications in particular have not been determined while later applications have been?”
18. UKBA stated in its original response that cases are only given priority treatment where this is warranted by compelling and compassionate circumstances. In such cases, it advises applicants that they should be willing to withdraw their application if we are unable to make a decision without further enquiries. I consider this explanation to be sufficient.
19. I am satisfied that UKBA has explained why some applications have been decided ahead of others. UKBA has nothing further to add.
Can I reassure you that there should not be any difference between those in civil partnerships or traditional marriages.badnicki wrote:.... I am concerned my application has been put into the "complex" pile because I am in a civil partnership, as opposed to marriage...
Not sure if anyone else under civil partnerships have found their wait to be longer?
I've answered your message heremice wrote:Here is my time line
Applied FLR (M):28 feb 2012 from student visa
confirmation letter :9 feb 2012
biometrics :21 april 2012
more evidence requested :10 oct 2012
request for spouse passport 27 november
Decision : refused 30 th nov ,no right of appeal
After such a long wait I woke up to this bad news...its such a nightmare
I wouldn't worry about it.crowline wrote:when i applied in April, i only sent my bank statements and payslips and not my wifes(whose British), as she wasn't workg and so didnt wana put a downer on my application.she still no working yet. i earn abt 16000 per annum. none of us are on benefit. seems like every1 sends both partners bank statements & payslips. does it matter? any advice appreciated.thx[/u]
mice wrote:I arrived in uk in 2004 and have since been a student in business admin and renewed my visa 4 times visa up to feb 2012.met my husband 2009 and given certificate of approval and got married june 2011 at registrar.lived together since then together with my son but no adoption process took place.my son 5 and half years old,has no status as both i and his dad were subject to immigration control.My husband works part time and earn 175 pounds a week and i bring roughly 160 as my student visa restricts me 20 hours a week.we have no savings .i submit my flr(M) application 3 days before my visa expired which home office sent back within a week for correct payment details.i resubmitted it next day which was 10 days after my visa expiry date. i was invited for biometrics in april and asked for more documents p60,bank statements,work contract and pay slips in october and submitted.MPH80 wrote:I'm not sure I'm qualified to help here - but I think to aid everyone else - you need to lay out some more details.
Can you provide ... a clear timeline of your key events (e.g. arrival, birth of son, courses attended, visa extensions, marriage etc)?
Can you also provide some details of your finances? How much do both of you earn together? What expenditure do you have?
Can you also clarify the immigration status of your son?
I have now received this letter to say they refuse my visa because 1) i apply for my visa after mine had already expire 2) according to new law,that we have no sufficient income and savings 3)that we have no child between us 4)that there is no insurmountable evidence to show that me and my husband can not go and live comfortably my country and leave england which is my husband home country. We are so confused and donno what to do next.My husband has never lived in any other country apart from uk,has a lifetime condition and gets medical attention evry fortnight.I have no home in africa to take my husband to,and i dont know how they expect us to live apart ,its like we are being punished because we dont earn enough,which is not our fault,my husband look for good job every day but there are no jobs out there now.we are so help less.am also wondering do they have to judge me under new rule on income threshold even though i applied in feb,way before the law existed?sorry for the longest explanation.wil appreciate your advice
Hello everyone,MPH80 wrote:So to summarise it in a bit of an easier to read format:
* 2004 - arrival as student
* 2007 - Son born
* 2009 - Met future husband
* 2011 - Married husband
* Feb 2012 - applied to FLR(M)
* Nov 2012 - Rejected
Your income is £335/week or roughly £1450 per month. This is below the qualifying threshold of £18,600 under the new rules - and you would require more than that due to your son.
I don't believe you qualify under a private life argument. Your son hasn't been here for 7 years (which is the break point) and you would have to prove that your husband couldn't receive the treatment in your home country.
I'm not sure of the best next steps - I suspect you need a good professional to assist.
M.
Replied back in the original forum where this topic probably belongs.samestory wrote: Hello everyone,
I just read the post above by Mice and replies she got....
Just a couple of comments on this - it is my understanding that if someone is given 10 days to leave the country, fair or not, if they want any possibility of returning they have to leave. Period. "no right of appeal" is not a tactic, it's a fact.samestory wrote:
j) No matter how bleak this case looks, I think Mice should remain and fight this decision. In my opinion, 'You have no right to appeal' is casework tactics to scare Mice. You can find out that the UKBA is not always right and get proved wrong sometimes by court judges. I am only sad because Mice would have to find and pay a lawyer. Are there any immigration lawyers that offer service free? Mice, can you contact emyfraser and ask him/her the procedure because he/she posted they have been refused a right to appeal before?