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does COA serves as my entry back to UK?

Post by allana2010 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:58 pm

Hi All,

I am very confused of my COA.
I applied as a Primary Carer of a British child and i applied outside UK (i'm from Philippines).
It says that i can accept work in the UK or continue any work in the UK.

How can i exercise my right to work when I'm here outside UK?

Can I go back with just my COA with no passport as well as my daughter's passport as HO has it but will be travelling together with my British daughter.

Applied: 17/11.12 tru DHL
RCV frm HO: 20/11/12
COA rcv: 24/12/12 dated 20/12/12 on it
RC; waiting

Please help.. As your informations is badly needed.

Thank you all in advance!

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Post by Jambo » Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:20 pm

Did you apply using form EEA2? Did you state your home address in the Philippines? Did you get the CoA posted back to the Philippines?

RC can normally only be applied from within the UK.

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Post by allana2010 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:31 pm

Yes. I applied under EEA2 under ruiz zambrano ruling. In the UKBA website dated Nov. 8, 2012, that applicants outside UK can now apply using the form EEA2 and be sent directly to liverpool which I did. But the postal system here is not reliable I have a cousin in UK which I made as my correspondence of the said application and used her address. I have lived as well in UK for 5 years as a student visa holder.

I did explain in my covering letter regarding my address.

Now i want to know if this COA serves as my entry back to UK. I have only photocopies of my passport and my daughter's passport as well.

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Location: does not matter if you are with your EEA family member

Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:38 pm

Are you in the Philippines now?

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Post by allana2010 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:46 pm

yes i am.. i surely did explained in my covering letter why i need to use a correspondence address in the UK.

Do u have any information that COA is enough for me to go back to UK?

Thank you for your replies.

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Post by Jambo » Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:15 pm

I presume you refer to this news - Changes to the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2006. EEA2 only applies to people living in the UK not to people living outside the UK. Where does it say that people living abroad can apply using this form?

In any case, you need a passport to travel. A real one not a photocopy. You also need a visa to travel to the UK. The CoA is not enough.

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Post by allana2010 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:27 pm

yes that's the one.. I did searched over the UKBA website and this new amendment before applying and definitely i am sure that applicants outside UK can now apply under this route.

because definitely they know that i am applying from outside UK based on my address and i just nominated my cousin to where any correspondence to be sent off to..

now its confusing me..

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Post by allana2010 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:00 pm

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2012/1547/made its a link from UKba and below is the explanatory note regarding the new amendments of regulation 2006.

and i have read as well on some sites that this amendments basically is for single parents of a british child/adult who are primary carer who has limited leave to remain and are outside UK..

I'm trying to find that site now so i can show you all..

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Post by allana2010 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:42 pm

Jambo,

Do you think if I get a EEA FAmily permit showing that i have a CoA that will allow me to enter back to UK?

Thanks for all your infos.. Much appreciated.

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Post by Jambo » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:37 pm

allana2010 wrote:http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2012/1547/made its a link from UKba and below is the explanatory note regarding the new amendments of regulation 2006.

and i have read as well on some sites that this amendments basically is for single parents of a british child/adult who are primary carer who has limited leave to remain and are outside UK..

I'm trying to find that site now so i can show you all..
I'm aware of the changes in the regulations. However, this doesn't mean that you made the correct application. Application for Residence Card using form EEA2 should be made by applicants residing in the UK (check the first line on the first page of the application form).

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Post by Jambo » Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:16 pm

allana2010 wrote:Jambo,

Do you think if I get a EEA FAmily permit showing that i have a CoA that will allow me to enter back to UK?

Thanks for all your infos.. Much appreciated.
You are confusing some of the terms.

CoA doesn't mean anything other than that your application has been accepted i.e. the HO have received it. It gives no indication if the application will be successful or not.

To travel to the UK you need a visa (EEA Family Permit) which is applied from the country you live in. Not the UK. You will need to provide the British consulate evidence to support your application together with a passport. A CoA doesn't prove your case. The evidence you provided with the EEA2 application probably does.

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Post by allana2010 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:18 pm

jambo,

kindly check this link please.

http://ukimmigrationspecialist.com/2012 ... -nov-2012/

i don't think that HO will acknowledge and give me CoA if im not on the right application.

Definitely they know that I am outside UK applying under EEA2 route under ruiz zambrano ruling whilst the right form DRF1 is not yet in place but it is now on the UKBA website.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... tion-forms

this ismind buggling.. i've been searching over the internet of situations like me.. i am thinking of applying a EEA family permit to be able to enter back to UK and wait for my RC in UK.

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Post by Jambo » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:13 am

allana2010 wrote:jambo,

kindly check this link please.

http://ukimmigrationspecialist.com/2012 ... -nov-2012/

And that page also says
The changes won’t affect the majority of the readers of our blog because the vast majority is resident overseas; the Changes to the EEA Regulations coming into effect on 8 November do not (not) affect applicants for EEA Family Permits overseas.
And also
Does the Zambrano judgement affect visa applicants whose circumstances are similar to those described in the judgement but who currently reside outside the UK?

No, it doesn’t. There is no current provision for someone to apply for a visa to come to the UK solely on the basis of the Ruiz Zambrano judgement. Currently an applicant will need to qualify for a visa in another category of the Immigration Rules if they wish to come to the UK.
i don't think that HO will acknowledge and give me CoA if im not on the right application.
You will be surprised. The HO just acknowledged the application. No one really looked into it and realised that you live abroad (especially as you provided a UK address for the correspondence).
Definitely they know that I am outside UK applying under EEA2 route under ruiz zambrano ruling whilst the right form DRF1 is not yet in place but it is now on the UKBA website.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... tion-forms
DRF1 form is still not available on the HO website (although the press release refers to it). DRF1 as well as EEA2 should be used by applicants living in the UK.
i am thinking of applying a EEA family permit to be able to enter back to UK and wait for my RC in UK.
You will need your passport for that. Did you sed your passport to support the EEA2 application?

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Post by allana2010 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:21 am

yes i did. as well as my daughter's british passport.


now i'm concerned.. they give me case id number though..

:-(

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