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Colombo, Sri lanka Applications?

Post by kumar2012 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:26 am

Has anyone recently applied through Colombo, Sri Lanka? Please include your timeline and decision, if any.

I have heard that submitting your application using the premium lounge in VFS increases your chances as they check your application, documents and provide advice on any missing documents to include. It costs about Rs 3000- more.

But, if you submit it in normal counters the application will be accepted with basic check and regardless of any missing documents. Hence, for example, the VFS staff are not requesting SU07/12 form from applicants in keeping with the UKBA policy on stating 'the onus is on the applicant to submit all the required documents'.

I don't know if this is true, but this is what I have heard. Just passing on the information...

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Post by ban.s » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:14 pm

SU07 Sponsorship Undertaking is only applicable to Elderly Dependant applications

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Post by kumar2012 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:08 am

SU07/12 form is mandatory for spouse visa application according to ECO in Chennai.

I was refused for not submitting SU07/12 form for my wife with no dependents.

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Post by ban.s » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:39 am

can you quote the actual texts from the refusal letter?

as per supporting documents guide SU07 is an additional supporting document for Elderly Dependant relatives.

Also the spouse dependant is eligible for NHS treatment, so why do the sponsor need to provide undertaking that s/he would be providing care to the applicant without recourse to the public fund?

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Post by kumar2012 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:50 pm

EC-P.1.1(c) – Section S-EC: Suitability – Entry Clearance Requirements (Your sponsor, ********, has been requested to give a written undertaking to be responsible for the maintenance and accommodation under paragraph 35 of the Immigration Rules, but has failed,/refused to do so. I therefore refuse your application under paragraph EC-P.1.1(c) of Appendix FM of the Immigration Rules (S-EC.2.4))

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Post by ban.s » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:27 pm

well, I don't know the full details of your previous application and/or any correspondence with UKBA. So I can't fully relate the above refusal text with you case.

However, I still stand with my previous opinion, SU07 is a specific undertaking form and needs to be submitted along with Elderly Dependant applications. For spouses there is no mandatory requirement to provide any separate undertaking (and definitely not SU07) as long as long as financial requirements are met and evidences provided as per the VAF4A Appendex2.

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Post by ban.s » Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:25 pm

your situation was discussed before in SU07/12 for spouse visa and others already pointed out it was not a requirement for spouse visa.
first of all, the refusal text didn't mention about undertaking in the form of SU07. The SU07 is a specific form and includes "care" along with maintenance and accommodation. You don't need to provide undertaking for care for partner/children and ECO can't refuse your application on the basis of that.

also you mentioned in your previous post that you submitted a statutory declaration but the refusal text clearly says that you didn't. So did you challenge the refusal?

Looking at one of your recent postings, it seems you have submitted a new application - so I don't think this discussion has any further merit especially when we don't know the details of your previous application, type of documents submitted etc.

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Post by kumar2012 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:08 pm

ban.s thank you for your message. But:

My refusal was challenged and the ECM in Chennai stated that SU07/12 form is mandatory for Spouse settlement visa application and my refusal point was in relation to SU07.

From my previous post you would have realized that Sujan 'riversidecreations' has also had a similar refusal from ECM Chennai.

If you have read my previous posts fully you would realize that I have challenged the EMC on this and I have appealed.

This discussion is important because the applications received in Premium lounge in Colombo are advised to submit SU07 but the normal counters receive applications as is and result in refusals.

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Post by ban.s » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:24 pm

can you post the full text of your first refusal, your subsequent challenge, and response from ECO confirming the mandatory nature of SU07/12 for spouse visa applications, and that your application was refused on that basis?

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Post by Franko » Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:51 pm

kumar2012 wrote:SU07/12 form is mandatory for spouse visa application according to ECO in Chennai.

I was refused for not submitting SU07/12 form for my wife with no dependents.
My wife applied in October without this form and got her Visa so its not a mandatory requirement for spouse applications.

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Post by kumar2012 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:27 am

Franco the ECM in Chennai India said it was mandatory for Spouse Settlement Visa application. I do believe that Su07/12 was required only for elderly dependents but ECM in Chennai thinks otherwise.

ban.s - I have posted the full text of refusal and the response from ECM. Please don't keep requesting what has already been said.

I am trying to advise people to submit the SU07/12 if applying through Chennai Hub.

Please if you are asking the same question for the sake of asking questions can you find other posts.

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Post by MPH80 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:56 am

Kumar - even in the text you quote he doesn't state it's mandatory.

He says that the sponsor was REQUESTED to provide the undertaking.

Now - that's fine - they can ask you to do that. If the sponsor never actually was - then that's a different problem.

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Post by navodwickra » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:25 am

Application Date : 10/12/2012
Process started : 16/12/2012

Still pending

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Post by ban.s » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:56 am

kumar2012 wrote:ban.s - I have posted the full text of refusal and the response from ECM. Please don't keep requesting what has already been said.

I am trying to advise people to submit the SU07/12 if applying through Chennai Hub.

Please if you are asking the same question for the sake of asking questions can you find other posts.
Kumar, I don't fancy wasting my precious time just for the sake of asking questions especially when I know you are not providing full facts. So I wish you good luck with your application/appeal.

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Post by flyguy » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:21 pm

If in doubt - submit (within reason) is the answer to such cases. :D

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Post by kumar2012 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:36 am

navodwickra - any good news?

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Post by riversidecreations » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:23 pm

Just to clarify.. the Operations Manager at the Chennai office has confirmed to me in writing that the SU07 form is not a mandatory requirement and that the decision to reject an application for that issue is in fact an incorrect decision.
Sujan
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Application Submitted : 27/08/2012
Application refused :( - 09/11/2012
Appeal Lodged : 15/11/2012
ECM to respond by : 30/04/2012
DOT Letter received : 24/04/2013
Passport/Visa Collected : 14/05/2013

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Post by kumar2012 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:17 pm

Thank you Sujan for sharing that information. Just gives clarity on requirement of SU07.

So, the first reason that you and I were refused is incorrect. I was refused also for not including employment contract - which was included. The ECM must overturn the decision then...

what are they waiting for? :(

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Post by navodwickra » Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:53 am

kumar2012 wrote:navodwickra - any good news?

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=128958

yes very god news indeed :D

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