Review request rejected

[headmaster]

Hi All,

My review request has rejected again. But they were kind enough to explain each and every weak points. Experience letters should be self explanatory if we claim senior/specialist level expertise. Also they mentioned examples like size of company, hiearchy etc.

I had submitted application, without reading this BB, otherwise i would have easily pass the hurdle.

Afterall this is a luck too. One of my friend also tried for HSMP and for him, the caseworker contacted him for more detailed letter from employer to support senior level exp.

Fortunately, i got a job in between where they sponsered my WP. WP got approved in 5 days time and waiting for FLR.

HM

[fomar]

Hi headmaster,

what do you mean by self explanatory. did they ask for submitting some details about the size of the company. Do you think that if you have submitted an evidence that describes the size of the company and your position in the Company Hierarchy, would have helpt to pass.

could you please shed some light about how to organize that Hierarchy.

[noddy214]

Hi there!!

If it is not too much to ask for, could you please paste the reply you got from HSMP giving clarifications for your case being rejected. I am sure all us are very keen to know their point of view or what is that they look for.

Thanks,
Noddy.

[fomar]

Yeah, if you could do that, we will be grateful.

[Mini]

headmaster,
What do you mean by refused your review request. They refused to review your application or reviewed it and gave the decision as REJECTED again.

Can you also share on how much time they took to revert back to you after submission of your review request .

And as requested by other members, if you paste the response from HO it will be very helpful to all.

[raoms]

ofcorse it will be reviewed and then rejected case(mini).
Headmaster, did they give you another chance for review ? Anyway you are benefited from the WP front, so you don't have to worry . By the way if you could also tell us the content of your exp. letter, it will help others a lot.

[raoms]

ofcorse it will be reviewed and then rejected case(mini).
Headmaster, did they give you another chance for review ? Anyway you are benefited from the WP front, so you don't have to worry . By the way if you could also tell us the content of your exp. letter, it will help others a lot.

[fomar]

Does anyone know what should be in the company hierarchy?

should I mention positions and names of each employee or just the senior people?

My company has about 80 - 100 employees, does this considered as a large or small company?

[Sampan]

In my case I submitted the organogram of my office in which it was clearly indicated my position ( Senior level ). The organogram showed only the position of each level, not the name of position holder.

Thanx.

[headmaster]

Self-explanatory: HO will not contact references/employers. So reference letter should explain senior/specialist level in detail.

Time line: Only one month for review request.

Cut & Paste is impossible: sorry about that, because it is a hard-copy, but as quick note, they pointed out the weak points and given indications like how many employees in the organization/size of organization, heirarchy chart etc. Also for current employment, they expect a reference letter.

Raoms: there are 3 review chances. But i feel, it is better to resubmit with fresh documents. It is a much quicker process

[Mini]

headmaster,
Can you also share the date on which you submitted the review request and the date when the response was posted to you.

Thanks.

[fomar]

Could anyone give me an example of a company hierarchy? I did not sent this document, so I am trying to get more information about it in order to submit such information.

Also do you think that I need to get a hierarchy for my department in the company or a hierarchy for the whole company (all departments)

[Kayalami]

Could anyone give me an example of a company hierarchy? I did not sent this document, so I am trying to get more information about it in order to submit such information.

Department of Trade and Industry Organogram

Also do you think that I need to get a hierarchy for my department in the company or a hierarchy for the whole company (all departments)

How big is the company? It may be more relevant to get one for a particular unit say Group Finance - advantage of a second organogram is it gives a comparative view of your own position.

[fomar]

the company has about 80 - 100 employees and a structure of 10 departments.

So you prefer to get a one for my department/unit.

Could you please clarify how I could give a comparative view on my position? Could be by showing the positions under my supervision!?

[Kayalami]

Could you please clarify how I could give a comparative view on my position? Could be by showing the positions under my supervision!?

I would say give the structure for two departments one of which is yours - by comparative I mean that it will show your seniority being similar to those in sister units/departments. For example you can be the senior analyst in the strategy section but its relatively flat and you have 1 direct report whereas you can be a senior analyst in the finance section but you have 20 direct reports through a layer of reporting structures all the way to you.

[fomar]

Kayalami,

Thank you. It is now clear and ofcourse the one with 20 direct reports is better than the other.

[Random]

Folks,
I am preparing for the HSMP application and am planning to claim points for senior experience.

The organisation I works in is an MNC ((Top 5 FTSE co.) and has a very flat organisation. The seniority/importance in our organisation depends on the size of deal being handled by the engagement manager (as we are in infrastructure buisness). So If I am handling an engagement for investment upto $ 350 Mn and am leading a team (not direct reporting) on that, will that be considered as a senior level experience?

Also If I draw out an organogram on a plain paper, is it admissible or considered. I report to a general manager who report to the CEO. On most engagements, I report directly to the CEO and there are no direct reportees to me.

In my earlier job, it is clearly said on the letter that I was leading teams on a nationwide basis for two departments. But that organisation is very small and unlisted company.

Any views/feedback/suggestions.

Thanks

[paki]

hi all
hwo are u , how u got HSMP review letter ? Please tell me from where i can download it , i will be very thankful to you

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I had applied for HSMP under 28 of age , but my case was refused as they don’t accept my qualification and as well as my earnings , as I am doing part time teaching also .
They score me 40 points only for my age and work experience.


I applied case on 7th April
Decision made on my application on 3rd September
I received my application on 27th September ( Lahore , Pakistan )


How can i apply to review my HSMP application?
From where I can download review application form for HSMP?

Is it better to apply for review application and in how many days I can apply to review my application?

Please answer me as soon as possible
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thanks

[paki]

hi all
how are u , please tell me from where i can obtain HSMP review form.
and if u have please send me at : saquibkhan1978@yahoo.com

*-------------------- My application detail

I had applied for HSMP under 28 of age , but my case was refused as they don’t accept my qualification and as well as my earnings , as I am doing part time teaching also .
They score me 40 points only for my age and work experience.


I applied case on 7th April
Decision made on my application on 3rd September
I received my application on 27th September ( Lahore , Pakistan )


How can i apply to review my HSMP application?
How much cost for review my HSMP application?
From where I can download review application form for HSMP?

Is it better to apply for review application and in how many days I can apply to review my application?

Please answer me as soon as possible
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Thanks in Advance

bye

[paki]

Hi Paki can you highlight some more details like: -
1. How many points did you claimed?
25 + 50 + 25 + 5 = 105

2. what are your qualifications and years of study
BCS ( 2 years ) From charted university
MCS From Private College
* They awarded me "0" points .

3. Experience, Senior Level, (Any organization chart submitted?)
cleaimed " 50 marks
they give " 35 marks

4.5 years Experience/ Senior Level 2 years ....


4. Did you submitted Tax Returns + Salary Slips
"0" marks

Just salary slips

*-----------They give me 40 marks in total .

From where i can get HSMP review form
Please Let me know
thanks

[paki]

Hi ALL

I had applied for HSMP under 28 of age , but my case was refused as they don’t accept my qualification and as well as my earnings , as I am doing part time teaching also .
They score me 40 points only for my age and work experience.

I applied case on 7th April
Decision made on my application on 3rd September
I received my application on 27th September ( Lahore , Pakistan )

How can i apply to review my HSMP application?
From where I can download review application form for HSMP?

Is it better to apply for review application and in how many days I can apply to review my application?

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1. How many points did you claimed?
25 + 50 + 25 + 5 = 105

2. what are your qualifications and years of study
BCS ( 2 years ) From charted university
MCS From Private College
* They awarded me "0" points .

3. Experience, Senior Level, (Any organization chart submitted?)
cleaimed " 50 marks
they give " 35 marks

4.5 years Experience/ Senior Level 2 years ....


4. Did you submitted Tax Returns + Salary Slips
"0" marks

Just salary slips

*-----------They give me 40 marks in total .

From where i can get HSMP review form?
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i read this NEWS

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http://www.workingintheuk.gov.uk/workin ... est_a.html?
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well i want to send my new documents as evidence
like for work experience

* I want to send a detail experience at least 3 to 4 pages covering my duties and responsibilities

* as well as my company hierarchy

like we have 3000 employees and our company is the AISA second largest company ....


i am working as senior level ...


* Secondly
i want to send prove for my earnings like

TAX RETURNS OF PART TIME JOB as well as FULL TIME JOB ....

for all that new information i sent them .
Do u i have to pay ?

according to this article

http://www.workingintheuk.gov.uk/workin ... est_a.html?


reply me ASAP
send me HSMP REVIEW FORM ON : saquibkhan1978@yahoo.com
thanks
bye