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SJ_2013 wrote:I have a question if anybody can help me. I applied on 6/7/2012, my Tier 1 visa expired on 11/12/2012 and FLR(M) visa issued on 13/02/2013 with expiry date of 13/02/2015 based on old rules. Now the question is when can I apply for ILR? Is it July 2014 as its 2 years from application date or Feb 2015 as its 2 years from Visa issue date?
SET(M) wrote:If we gave you permission to remain in the UK as an unmarried or same-sex partner and are now applying to settle here as the husband, wife or civil partner of the same person, your 2-year qualifying period started on whichever is the later of these two dates:
the date when we gave you permission to remain as an unmarried or same-sex partner; or
the date when you arrived in the UK.
Thanks Damanisshallo, So that means its Feb 2015. So not only we suffer waiting for a visa, it affects our future as well. 7 months wasted in a whole . I had to go for postal application as there was no premier appointment available before 9th july but never realised it would take so much time.Damanisshallo wrote:SJ_2013 wrote:I have a question if anybody can help me. I applied on 6/7/2012, my Tier 1 visa expired on 11/12/2012 and FLR(M) visa issued on 13/02/2013 with expiry date of 13/02/2015 based on old rules. Now the question is when can I apply for ILR? Is it July 2014 as its 2 years from application date or Feb 2015 as its 2 years from Visa issue date?SET(M) wrote:If we gave you permission to remain in the UK as an unmarried or same-gender partner and are now applying to settle here as the husband, wife or civil partner of the same person, your 2-year qualifying period started on whichever is the later of these two dates:
the date when we gave you permission to remain as an unmarried or same-gender partner; or
the date when you arrived in the UK.
Sadly yes. Well my understanding is that this is the first time you got into this visa (dependent) otherwise you were on your own right(Tier 1). At least you are lucky to fall under the old rules.SJ_2013 wrote:Thanks Damanisshallo, So that means its Feb 2015. So not only we suffer waiting for a visa, it affects our future as well. 7 months wasted in a whole . I had to go for postal application as there was no premier appointment available before 9th july but never realised it would take so much time.
No I hadn't done anything special except just wait. I think my application was pretty straight forward though. Hopefully you'll get your documents back soon!mrsabih wrote:hi congrats i applied on 19/10/2012BellaM wrote:Hi all, I am a silent(ish) member of this forum. I finally received my passport and documents back today! I hope that more and more people will hear great news today!
My timeline:
Acknowledgement letter date: 29/10/12
Biometrics request date: 28/12/12
Biometrics submitted: 2/1/13
Passport & docs received in post: 22/2/13
BRP: awaiting
bio done 31/12/2012
still waiting hope mine come next week did you done anything to speed up process
BellaM wrote:No I hadn't done anything special except just wait. I think my application was pretty straight forward though. Hopefully you'll get your documents back soon!mrsabih wrote:hi congrats i applied on 19/10/2012BellaM wrote:Hi all, I am a silent(ish) member of this forum. I finally received my passport and documents back today! I hope that more and more people will hear great news today!
My timeline:
Acknowledgement letter date: 29/10/12
Biometrics request date: 28/12/12
Biometrics submitted: 2/1/13
Passport & docs received in post: 22/2/13
BRP: awaiting
bio done 31/12/2012
still waiting hope mine come next week did you done anything to speed up process
The £100 fee is included in the £375 premium for an appointment, and if you do the math the current premium for a PEO appt is £306 for an FLR(M), so all they've done is separate this out and increase the price a bit. It's still BS though.Xiaozhu wrote:Yes, it's bad. They have effectively lied to both me and my MP. And of course once again it highlights the lack of transparency - they tell you one thing and then do another, try to backtrack. I had no idea that a decision has to be 'approved'. Why don't we know these things?
On another note, I noticed that they are going to start charging a fee for PEO appointments - £100 deposit on booking and £375 per person for the appointment itslef (the £100 to be included in this). I think this is a money making thing - obviously it won't deter those people who engage in a black market trade for these appointments. Yes they'll have to pay a £100 deposit but they will make that back easily and quickly with the number of people desparate to get these things.
Hi - from our experience, they actually turned the application around on the same day that they received the additional information from us. i.e. we posted on 12th, they received 13th and they had the letter in the post wtih documents on 13th too (which we received on 16th).strayaleprechaun wrote:
Am I right in thinking that a number of people received their visa result quite quickly after submitting the extra evidence requested? Thought I would ask, as I don't want to get my hopes up if I am wrong.
The 'fuss' is that they did not tell us it would take this long, in fact they repeatedly told us it would take 3 months and that the 6 months was more a 'worst case scenario' for more complex applications. They failed to disclose that they were experiencing such severe delays, they have lied to us about how long it would be before my husband can work and travel, they have not responded punctually or even remotely clearly to any of our communications. They have taken our money and as far as I can see p*ssed it up the proverbial wall. Had they told us clearly from the beginning that the whole thing would be such a fiasco then we never would have made a postal application - and if we had then of course we wouldn't be complaining until the 6 months was up. Not that it should ever take 6 months anyway. The 'fuss' is that we have all been MISLED, taken for a ride. I don't know what your situation is but my husband and I are going through hell. I have a right to make a fuss - why the heck should we just sit back and let them do this to us?innocentdevil wrote:Xiaozhu: to be honest, though you have tried everything in your right to get them to make the application process but as per guidelines they have 6 months anyway and like you said they have completed today so I do not know what is the fuss. Though they should have completed within 6 months but now you can complain as it is outside the time frame while previously it was within 6 months period.
having said that, UKBA is a cobbing runts and should pull finger outta their arses and sort it out. and now they are putting up the fees yet again. wtf
csandbrook wrote: or is there something else going on here (like a freak spike in applications made in early July)?
Yes there was as the rules changed on 9 July 2012 and lots of people got their applications in before that to take advantage of the old rules. Hoping this means that post-9 July applications are fewer and will therefore be got through quicker...
yep, looks that way.luckyjinx wrote:Wow, looks like they've finally gotten the biometrics letters back into proper timeline. It used to take 2-4 weeks, but I waited 9 and at the peak there were people regularly waiting something like 14-16 weeks for a bio letter. Hopefully that means the backlog is very nearly under control.
Hear, hear. Couldn't agree more. Those who have read John Vine's report into the marriage visa situation know that it is required for overseas posts to keep current information about peak demand and processing times on their website so that applicants can plan accordingly. There is no such requirement to help those applying within the UK. Applicants applying for spouse visas for entry from the US receive regular email updates for a process that at its longest has taken 2 months; applicants in the UK hear NOTHING for months on end.Xiaozhu wrote: The 'fuss' is that we have all been MISLED, taken for a ride. I don't know what your situation is but my husband and I are going through hell. I have a right to make a fuss - why the heck should we just sit back and let them do this to us?
In fact, comments like that are quite unhelpful and discouraging to me, especially when we have been working as hard as we can to raise awareness of this issue on behalf of everyone in this situation. Even if the fuss I have made has not helped I have at least tried, and perhaps saved others from making the same mistakes.
Also, I started fussing the minute I found out about the delays, which was about 3 months ago when our BRM letter had still not been sent. I did not want to be in the situation where we were still wondering and waiting 10 months after we applied. I wanted to do everything possible to kick the UKBA into action before it got to the 6 month stage in the hope that they would have responded by then. Besides, I am not the kind of person who can sit back and let the government treat me and my husband (or anyone else) like vermin without saying anything. In a way all the complaining and letter writing I've been has been cathartic, it's the only way I can cope.
By the way, I have asked my MP to press on with the complaint to the Ombudsman. It's probably a bit late now as I expect our docs to come back very soon but I refuse to accept this situation both for me and for the many thousands of other couples who are having their mental health, careers and marriages ruined because of this scandal. I will keep you updated.
(PS: Our application is not completed, they have merely made a 'decision in principle' which has to be approved or whatever before they can send our docs).
I applied I think on 24/10/12. I applied from a tier 1 post study work visa to an unmarried partner visa. We supplied more than the required amount of documents to prove our cohabitation, jobs & earnings.shendean wrote:BellaM wrote:No I hadn't done anything special except just wait. I think my application was pretty straight forward though. Hopefully you'll get your documents back soon!mrsabih wrote:hi congrats i applied on 19/10/2012BellaM wrote:Hi all, I am a silent(ish) member of this forum. I finally received my passport and documents back today! I hope that more and more people will hear great news today!
My timeline:
Acknowledgement letter date: 29/10/12
Biometrics request date: 28/12/12
Biometrics submitted: 2/1/13
Passport & docs received in post: 22/2/13
BRP: awaiting
bio done 31/12/2012
still waiting hope mine come next week did you done anything to speed up process
Hi? what did u applied~?
From what I was told, the reason the FLR M visas take so long is that the requirements are very wishy-washy. The points based visas are very straight forward, either you meet it or you don't, whereas the FLR M visas have very few areas that are simple Yes/No, there's always at least one but...luckyjinx wrote: Next week is 8 months' wait for me. Like Xiaozhu, I started complaining before I reached 6 months, and while it hasn't gotten my visa processed faster it has certainly helped to draw attention to our plight (via The Guardian) and has helped me keep my sanity. Every one of the 3 previous UK visas I applied for took no more than 4 weeks to process, so the thought of waiting until you reach 6 effing months to complain is just ridiculous.