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You need a passport............... how will you approach the authorities (in the UK) with a paper/certificate or whatever that guarantees your birth but not nationality?bobsowc wrote:I am in England right now....I'm wanting to get these items now. Is my Certificate enough proof to get them?
how will you approach the authorities (in the UK) with a paper/certificate or whatever that guarantees your birth but not nationality?
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Hi Malika, I'm not sure I understand your Question. I want to get my national Insurance number, Is my Irish Foreign Birth Registration Certificate enough proof of citizenship to do that?
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You are an Irish Citizen but a passport will be needed to get these things you want and not certificate. Contact the Irish Embassy in UK and they will sort it out for you.bobsowc wrote:I am in England right now....I'm wanting to get these items now. Is my Certificate enough proof to get them?
Do you need proof of I.D to get NI? do you want to use your FBR as that? This is what I mean...........will it be accepted? Why don't you apply for a passport instead?bobsowc wrote:how will you approach the authorities (in the UK) with a paper/certificate or whatever that guarantees your birth but not nationality?
Regards,
Hi Malika, I'm not sure I understand your Question. I want to get my national Insurance number, Is my Irish Foreign Birth Registration Certificate enough proof of citizenship to do that?
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Do you need proof of I.D to get NI? do you want to use your FBR as that? This is what I mean...........will it be accepted? Why don't you apply for a passport instead?
I need proof of Citizenship. I want to use my FBR as proof. I have a job lined up but they need me to start right away. Passport will take 6-8 weeks. I also need a bank statement or payroll slip to fulfill the application requirements.
Do you need proof of I.D to get NI? do you want to use your FBR as that? This is what I mean...........will it be accepted? Why don't you apply for a passport instead?
I need proof of Citizenship. I want to use my FBR as proof. I have a job lined up but they need me to start right away. Passport will take 6-8 weeks. I also need a bank statement or payroll slip to fulfill the application requirements.
But you dont only need a proof of citizenship to apply for jobs, get bank account etc. What you need in this situation is a proof of residence and that will get you going for now until you get your Irish passport.bobsowc wrote:I need proof of Citizenship. I want to use my FBR as proof. I have a job lined up but they need me to start right away. Passport will take 6-8 weeks. I also need a bank statement or payroll slip to fulfill the application requirements.
This might help: https://www.gov.uk/legal-right-to-work-in-the-uk ?bobsowc wrote:I need proof of Citizenship. I want to use my FBR as proof. I have a job lined up but they need me to start right away. Passport will take 6-8 weeks. I also need a bank statement or payroll slip to fulfill the application requirements.
But you dont only need a proof of citizenship to apply for jobs, get bank account etc. What you need in this situation is a proof of residence and that will get you going for now until you get your Irish passport.
How do you end up in the UK? Do you have resident status there?
If there is proof of residence in the UK, then you could apply for all of these without needing the Irish Citizenship to do that.
Proof of residence???? While I have a couple of accounts in the UK I'm not sure they are proof of residency.
I have a wife and child her in the UK and have been traveling back and forth from the USA. I happen to be here when my FBR came through. I'm trying to get my right to work done while I'm here instead of going back to the USA.
I do already have my FBR and it is the original copy.Are you already registered in the FBR? Do you have an extract or printout of that registration?
If so you already have a right to reside and work in the UK.
Does your future employer particularly need you to prove your status immediately?
A birth or adoption certificate issued in the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man or Ireland together
with an official document issued by a previous employer or Government agency with the person’s
name and National Insurance number (a P45, P46, National Insurance card, or letter from a
Government agency)
Unfortunately, no. The FBR certificate, in theory, certifies that you are an Irish citizen by descent. However - the UK authorities will not recognise it, as it is just a a piece of paper to them.bobsowc wrote:This is enough for me to get things like a National Insurance Number, Bank account or Job in the UK?
No, it is not. It is a citizenship certificate, not a birth certificate.Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Is an FBR considered an Irish birth certificate?
These observations also apply to a UK naturalization certificate (which is remarkably similar to an FBR certificate). However, a UK naturalization certificate is one of the documents acceptable to UK employers, according to the "FULL GUIDE FOR EMPLOYERS ON PREVENTING ILLEGAL WORKING IN THE UK", while an FBR certificate is not listed there.doesnotcompute wrote:However, as I said, for practical purposes, an FBR cert only proves the date that someone was registered as an Irish citizen. It doesn't have a photo or signature, so it is possible that this FBR certificate may have been borrowed/stolen etc from someone else. I'm sure this is not the case with bobsowc, but from a potential employer's point of view, they have to keep this in mind.