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Post by Pablito » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:53 pm

farouk198830 wrote:hello guys,

i am going to poland and join my wife there and in the meanwhile i will apply for eea family permit to accompany my wife to the uk can anybody tell me if this is good idea?

For further guys my wife and i worked for costa coffee she worked one month and me 10 months she has a national insurance number me as well

my question here as i read in the home office website and your website through many threads i saw that if the eea nation hasnt lived more than 3 months in the uk then i dont need to show that she is a qualified person will this be ok or as she worked and has insurance number i have to proove that she is qualified person in the uk

Please guys it is an emergency

thank you

Since your wife will be going there with you and first 3 months she is to be treated as resident by principle, I'd probably make this application very simple, don't state on your application form that you will stay longer than 3 months or that you will work or even intend to live there and whatever you decide to do, make sure your application is consistent with each part on it.

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Post by farouk198830 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:20 pm

thank's man, please tell me have you got an idea what are the questions that i can ignore and not answer them
farouk

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Post by Pablito » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:25 pm

farouk198830 wrote:thank's man, please tell me have you got an idea what are the questions that i can ignore and not answer them

There are some questions that you will need to answer simply yes/no, so i guess be truthful about them, but in my case when i was asked to provide further details to those already answered questions i stated that "Not required for family permit" i can't tell you if it was right to do, but since i knew that giving this information is not required for fp so i didn't.In most cases my answers were not required like financials or job of my wife. You may want to think about giving some evidence for your marriage but wait until some other members will advise you also.

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Post by farouk198830 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:26 pm

i really appreciate your help man, thank you so much indeed
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Post by ukforever » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:19 am

farouk198830 wrote:i really appreciate your help man, thank you so much indeed
salam farouk,i'm from algeria too,just saw your threds about your issue,send me a private message with your email or your number and i'll either call u or send u an email,to explain more as i'm in the same situation like u(sort of)
anyway,feel free to contact me..

PS:i sent u a private message.
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Post by farouk198830 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:29 pm

hii guys

Please i would like to ask about some questions that are requested in the application online for family permit. Will they ask me to provide the evidence of the statements that i stated about the situation of my wife such as jobseeker or student. Hope you got my question
Thank's
farouk

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Post by Pablito » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:00 pm

farouk198830 wrote:hii guys

Please i would like to ask about some questions that are requested in the application online for family permit. Will they ask me to provide the evidence of the statements that i stated about the situation of my wife such as jobseeker or student. Hope you got my question
Thank's

In our case when we indicated what is our status, we didn't provide any details, we just stated "Not required for family permit"

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Post by Pablito » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:01 pm

farouk198830 wrote:hii guys

Please i would like to ask about some questions that are requested in the application online for family permit. Will they ask me to provide the evidence of the statements that i stated about the situation of my wife such as jobseeker or student. Hope you got my question
Thank's

In our case when we indicated what is our status, we didn't provide any details, we just stated "Not required for family permit"

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Post by farouk198830 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:22 pm

to be honest with you my wife has studies to finish in july but we want to go in april this april from poland together to uk and the application online is asking about her current status in poland i am confused to choose between
jobseeker and
student and give them details about her kind of study and when began and when finishs , that's why i am asking if i mention that she is jobseeker then they ask for any documents to provide then we dont have any document i am really confused
please help
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Post by Pablito » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:50 pm

farouk198830 wrote:to be honest with you my wife has studies to finish in july but we want to go in april this april from poland together to uk and the application online is asking about her current status in poland i am confused to choose between
jobseeker and
student and give them details about her kind of study and when began and when finishs , that's why i am asking if i mention that she is jobseeker then they ask for any documents to provide then we dont have any document i am really confused
please help
Listen, why don't you state in your application form that you intend to stay for less than three months?, and in application for less than 3 months you will have initial right of residence which doesn't require neither you nor your wife to prove anything. So whatever you will state there that your wife does is in my opinion of not importance, but you might want to state that she is a student,even if ECO or whoever else will want to suggest that you should provide proof, no you don't have to.

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Post by farouk198830 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:07 pm

Thank's buddy

In fact i stated that we want to stay 2 months and i am gonna tell the truth that she is student and state everything in normal without lying so hopefully is gonna work
when it is about 2 months what do i have to say about the intention to work will i have to say yes or no ?

and thank's for your aid
farouk

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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:45 pm

Your wife has previously been working in the UK.

That means that you can easily enter Poland on the basis of EU free movement law to join her. You need to provide your passport, your marriage certificate, and proof that your wife has been working in the UK.

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Post by farouk198830 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:05 pm

Heeeya
Well you are right we both worked I worked from 4/11/2011 to 12/08/2012 she woroked as well at the same place as me since 7/07/2012 to 28/08/2012 then she left the uk to Poland sh does have a national insurance number of course payslips . So do you think it will work to apply for family permit from Poland
Ps: I do have a visa to poland I am leaving on Sunday the visa is valid 60 days
Thanks
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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:11 pm

farouk198830 wrote:Heeeya
Well you are right we both worked I worked from 4/11/2011 to 12/08/2012 she woroked as well at the same place as me since 7/07/2012 to 28/08/2012 then she left the uk to Poland sh does have a national insurance number of course payslips . So do you think it will work to apply for family permit from Poland
Ps: I do have a visa to poland I am leaving on Sunday the visa is valid 60 days
Thanks
All that matters is her work history as she is the EU citizen.

If you already have a visa to Poland, then just go on that. No need to change to something else.

Once in Poland, you can remain as long as you like. And you can work if you want. You should likely apply for a Residence Card. You will have to provide evidence that she worked in the UK.

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Post by farouk198830 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:25 pm

Actually she prefers to live in uk that's why we are preparing for family permit for me so what advises would you help us with
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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:40 pm

If you are going to be in Poland for two months, I would in any case apply for a Residence Card. It could be useful if you later want to visit Poland on vacation.

Once in Poland you can also apply for the EEA Family Permit. You understand the requirements at this point.

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Post by farouk198830 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:00 pm

hiii
Please i have one more question the most danger and the most serious
i have been told that my wife must visit my country and my family which didnt happen due to her personal situation (student) i've visited her family in december 2011
so if my wife didnt visit my family and we didnt celebrate the ceremony with my family will i be in risk to get refused in my eea fp application
Thank's
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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:22 pm

farouk198830 wrote:hiii
Please i have one more question the most danger and the most serious
i have been told that my wife must visit my country and my family which didnt happen due to her personal situation (student) i've visited her family in december 2011
so if my wife didnt visit my family and we didnt celebrate the ceremony with my family will i be in risk to get refused in my eea fp application
Thank's
No, that is silly and would be illegal.

All that is needed is, in general, a marriage certificate.

There is no requirements that you have visited a certain set of countries.

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Post by farouk198830 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:30 pm

so she isnt supposed to have been visited my country or taken photos with my family ?

That's brilliant news
Cheers
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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:53 pm

I personally think it is better (long term) to visit your country, to see the places you love, and to meet your family.

You should in general (initially) only provide your marriage certificate. If there is a serious suspicion that yours is a marriage of convenience, then you can later be requested to provide more information (though not specific things).

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Post by farouk198830 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:57 pm

i always suggest to her to have a holiday in my country take her to places that she never has been before and meet my family see how is the life and other things now it is up to her
By the way thank's a lot for your help
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Post by ukforever » Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:18 am

farouk198830 wrote:i always suggest to her to have a holiday in my country take her to places that she never has been before and meet my family see how is the life and other things now it is up to her
By the way thank's a lot for your help
i guess u r right directive ,my personal view is that he knows his wife since 2010,i presume from that time till the date he will apply for the family permit,he had some pictures taken with his wife,exchanged emails,text messages,so i guess when it comes to proving the length and the duration of the relationship it wouldn't be an issue,a marriage certificate should be enough,but as directive said,u would provide more proofs if needed..good luck with your application,also if u can manage to apply for a residence card in poland while u are there,it would be much easier to apply for the family permit from there than coming back to your country of origin,i feel like and i don't know if some people would agree with me that it makes a difference if u apply from an European country than a third world country ,i mean it would be much easier to apply from poland when u get your residence card,it would be a straight forward application,rather than applying from algeria with just your passport and your marriage certificate,u are still getting it but not as if u were a resident of an EU country and not as a resident of a third country citizen.
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Post by farouk198830 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:02 pm

hi guys i have subbmited my application 4 days ago at british embassy in warsaw the woman asked me a couple of questions and i've subbmited my application with photos, certificate of marriage, copy of passport of my wife and about 36 pages of our conversations on facebook, bank statements to show that we lived in same address and she said we will call you that's all
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Post by ukforever » Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:52 pm

farouk198830 wrote:hi guys i have subbmited my application 4 days ago at british embassy in warsaw the woman asked me a couple of questions and i've subbmited my application with photos, certificate of marriage, copy of passport of my wife and about 36 pages of our conversations on facebook, bank statements to show that we lived in same address and she said we will call you that's all
good,let's hope u get a positive reply,keep us updated...!!!
can u let us know,what did u answer or not answer in the online form,that would be helpful for others,for future references ..thanks.
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Post by ziggy015 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:00 pm

Hi!
I am flying to the UK next week. I am Polish and I am going to look for a job there. My husband and son(Serbian) are going to join me in June when my son's schoolyear finishes. My problem is:they will apply for family permit one month after my arrival and at that time I won't have to exercise treaty rights, but the date when they want to enter is close to the end of 3 months. What is your advice? What is the best time for them to apply and enter the Uk? Thanks in advance!!!

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