Maintenace Funds for Dependent outside the UK - Very Urgent

[Perdesi007]

Hello All,

I am living in the on Tier 1 General Visa for more than 30 months now, my extension is due in April 2013. I wan to apply for my wife and a child currently living in Pakistan. I have got two questions:

If I apply for my Wife and child in May or June (after my own extension):

How Much funds would I show in my account?

Secondly: Does it have to be in my account here in UK, or can I show half in my own account here in UK and some amount in my wife's account in Pakistan?

Please reply quickly,

Thanking you all in Advance

[uday2509]

It should be more than 600£ for each dependant, you can show the funds here in UK or in your home country but not half here and half there.

-Uday

[Perdesi007]

It should be more than 600£ for each dependant, you can show the funds here in UK or in your home country but not half here and half there.

-Uday

Thank You very much Uday for your reply ... I'm a little relaxed now !!!

[mayprivate]

Listen, please don't make the same mistake like mine...

My husband has just renewed his Tier1 General he has worked in Uk more than 12 months.., he was applying me as his dependant this year outside UK but my application was rejected because they said that we didn't show enough funds. My UK accounts show more than GBP600 last half year and my husband's account show more than GBP900 last half year as well. However, finally they said that we had not enough funds because they required us to show GBP1800. We are just unluckily and just GBP50 less than they required.

We read the T1 dependant guidance and it shows "45. If the Tier 1 Migrant has been in the United Kingdom for 12 months or more, you must have £600 to support yourself."--->>this is not the updated one! It was totally misleading!

The updated version about the saving proof is http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... ce-changes
Which means u should have more than GBP1800 for your dependant wife and additional GBP900 for each child. Please always keep more than they request, because they can change the rules and increase the funds anytime any dates...

I am waiting for 3 months bank statements now..I keep more than GBP3000 in my account and my husband keep more than GBP10000 into his account! The border agency is so money-minded so we should show as much as we have..would be more safe!

[mayprivate]

P.S.
They don't consider you have the housing property in Uk or pension, etc. They are just consider the cash in your bank account!

[Perdesi007]

P.S.
They don't consider you have the housing property in Uk or pension, etc. They are just consider the cash in your bank account!

Thank you very much for clarifying the things in more detail. I'll make sure i have got sufficient funds into my account.

Wishing u good luck for your application.

[mayprivate]

You're welcome. Please share it to your friends who are in the similar situation.

GBP600 for each dependant is not correct!

[uday2509]

'mayprivate', I understand your frustration but fact is fact, it should be more than 600£, but its always good have extra money.

Thanks,
Uday

[uday2509]

The link you posted 'http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... ce-changes' clearly says that more than 600£ is enough.

Thanks

[rdamsel]

Guys,

£1800 is incorrect.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... ation1.pdf

Please see the application form above and read page 27 & 28.

MayPrivate .... Your husband main applicant is in UK for more than 12 months so you need to show only £600 , i would say get a solicitor and appeal against the decision.

[mayprivate]

My husband and I have more than GBP600, we totally have more than GBP1700 but they request GBP1800!
GBP 600 is incorrect! It is because for the initial PBS dependant application (Application outside UK), the saving proof should have GBP1800!

[mayprivate]

Re rdamsel:

I want to appeal as well. It is because their guidance is totally misleading..or they made mistake..

It is because my husband has worked in UK more than 4 years! How come they ask us to show GBP 1800??
My account always more than GBP600 and my husband account always more than GBP900.

[uday2509]

rdamsel, you are right , it should be more than 600£.

mayprivate, Case workers does mistakes some times, that doesn't mean that
it is right, you can appeal against the decision.

[rdamsel]

Okay here is my friend case:

Main applicant got Tier 1 in March 2011 ( application made inside UK ).

He went to India got married in August 2011 .

Wife used to be student in UK then go back India in 2010.

Wife applied for dependent visa in January 2012 .

Total funds maintained. Main applicant : £800 dependent £ 533

Total: £1333

And she got the dependent visa.


I want to make a point here that case worker sometimes also confused about guide lines and dont bother to refer to senior case worker. So dont presume that they know everything, they have to deal 100 cases each week of different category and circumstances.

[Perdesi007]

rdamsel, you are right , it should be more than 600£.

mayprivate, Case workers does mistakes some times, that doesn't mean that
it is right, you can appeal against the decision.

it's true the case worker can make a mistake but she has mentioned she had £1700 in the account at the time of application which was £100 short than the required funds.

What I have understood from her case is, she got confused about the funds requirements and UKBA found this point to reject the visa

I think UKBA do not need to find a reason to give you the visa but they need to find a minor mistake to refuse it.

[mayprivate]

Thanks you guys for advice! I am so frustrated these days and I can't stop the tears how painful when I received the decision.

Yes, we should ask advices from solicitor. Thanks for the advices!

[rdamsel]

Take UKBA to the court and claim compensation for stress and mental depression.

UKBA have no idea how hard we work and save money to make a visa application and these untrained case workers simply reject it because they are confused.

[mayprivate]

Exactly! How hard we save the money for doing these applications. How many money they robbed from us?!

They don't care about us, they are just money-minded and even they are very lazy to read the case carefully!

We have our life and we are hard working not like those british claiming benefits all the time!

[Perdesi007]

Fees are too high so are the earning requirements, we keep working hard the whole year to meet the requirements and end of the result is, REJECTION and that too mostly by a case worker's mistake !!!

[alifkhan]

Guys,

£1800 is incorrect.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... ation1.pdf

Please see the application form above and read page 27 & 28.

MayPrivate .... Your husband main applicant is in UK for more than 12 months so you need to show only £600 , i would say get a solicitor and appeal against the decision.

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In your case

£900 (main applicant) + £1800 for 1 dependant (£600 x 3<months>) = £2700 overall

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... olicy1.pdf

Point 44-47 on page 8 explains clearly.

Hope it helps.

[bubin123]

It will be £900+£600+£600 as he has 2 dependants...
And the money can be from any account in the world... but please remember foreign bank accounts may go through further checks which can delay the application significantly....

[Perdesi007]

Thank you everyone for your prompt replies.

What I've understood from your replies and UKBA guidance notes is Because I am living in the UK for more than 12 months on T1 General so the funds requirements would be:

£900 (for myself) + £600 + £600 (For 2 dependents) = £2100

But to be on safe side, I must keep more than this in my account.

[akan]

Guys,

£1800 is incorrect.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... ation1.pdf

Please see the application form above and read page 27 & 28.

MayPrivate .... Your husband main applicant is in UK for more than 12 months so you need to show only £600 , i would say get a solicitor and appeal against the decision.

-------------------------------------------


In your case

£900 (main applicant) + £1800 for 1 dependant (£600 x 3<months>) = £2700 overall

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... olicy1.pdf

Point 44-47 on page 8 explains clearly.

Hope it helps.

This incorrect my friend:

Mayprivate husband already got Tier 1 Extension so he dont need to show maintenance funds for himself anymore.

Only £600 need to show for dependent.

[alifkhan]

Guys,

£1800 is incorrect.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... ation1.pdf

Please see the application form above and read page 27 & 28.

MayPrivate .... Your husband main applicant is in UK for more than 12 months so you need to show only £600 , i would say get a solicitor and appeal against the decision.

-------------------------------------------


In your case

£900 (main applicant) + £1800 for 1 dependant (£600 x 3<months>) = £2700 overall

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... olicy1.pdf

Point 44-47 on page 8 explains clearly.

Hope it helps.

This incorrect my friend:

Mayprivate husband already got Tier 1 Extension so he dont need to show maintenance funds for himself anymore.

Only £600 need to show for dependent.

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Can you point where it says in the policy guidance that the main applicant does not need to show maintenance requirement for himself again if they apply for a dependant. Regardless if one has already proved maintenance requirement for oneself, if they apply for a dependant then they have to fulfil maintenance requirement for themselves and their dependant.
Also the £600 requirement needs to be showed for three months which comes to £1800 for one dependant.


Refer to policy guidance for dependants:
Family members of tier 1 migrants (excluding tier 1 investor dependants and
tier 1 exceptional talent dependants)
44. If the Tier 1 Migrant is outside the United Kingdom or has been present in the United Kingdom for less than 12 months, you must show that you, the Tier 1 Migrant, or (for children) your other parent who is also legally present in the United Kingdom have at least £1800 to support you; this is in addition to any funds the Tier 1 Migrant needs to prove they have enough money to support themselves. Please note dependants of Tier 1 (Investors) and Tier 1 (Exceptional Talent) do not need to satisfy the maintenance requirement.
45. If the Tier 1 Migrant has been in the United Kingdom for 12 months or more, you must have £600 to support yourself.
46. For example, the Tier 1 Migrant has been in the UK for 6 months and is making an application at the same time as their spouse and two children. They must show that they have £1800 for his spouse and a further £1800 for each child, in addition to £900 required for their own support. In total the family will require evidence that they hold £6300 in available funds (£1800 x 3 = £5400+ £900).
47. If the same Tier 1 Migrant and their family had been present in the UK for two years, they would require evidence that they held £2700 (£600 x 3 = £1800 + £900) in available funds.

If I am wrong in interpreting the policy guidance then please point where.

[akan]

Guys,

£1800 is incorrect.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... ation1.pdf

Please see the application form above and read page 27 & 28.

MayPrivate .... Your husband main applicant is in UK for more than 12 months so you need to show only £600 , i would say get a solicitor and appeal against the decision.

-------------------------------------------


In your case

£900 (main applicant) + £1800 for 1 dependant (£600 x 3<months>) = £2700 overall

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... olicy1.pdf

Point 44-47 on page 8 explains clearly.

Hope it helps.

This incorrect my friend:

Mayprivate husband already got Tier 1 Extension so he dont need to show maintenance funds for himself anymore.

Only £600 need to show for dependent.

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Can you point where it says in the policy guidance that the main applicant does not need to show maintenance requirement for himself again if they apply for a dependant. Regardless if one has already proved maintenance requirement for oneself, if they apply for a dependant then they have to fulfil maintenance requirement for themselves and their dependant.
Also the £600 requirement needs to be showed for three months which comes to £1800 for one dependant.


Refer to policy guidance for dependants:
Family members of tier 1 migrants (excluding tier 1 investor dependants and
tier 1 exceptional talent dependants)
44. If the Tier 1 Migrant is outside the United Kingdom or has been present in the United Kingdom for less than 12 months, you must show that you, the Tier 1 Migrant, or (for children) your other parent who is also legally present in the United Kingdom have at least £1800 to support you; this is in addition to any funds the Tier 1 Migrant needs to prove they have enough money to support themselves. Please note dependants of Tier 1 (Investors) and Tier 1 (Exceptional Talent) do not need to satisfy the maintenance requirement.
45. If the Tier 1 Migrant has been in the United Kingdom for 12 months or more, you must have £600 to support yourself.
46. For example, the Tier 1 Migrant has been in the UK for 6 months and is making an application at the same time as their spouse and two children. They must show that they have £1800 for his spouse and a further £1800 for each child, in addition to £900 required for their own support. In total the family will require evidence that they hold £6300 in available funds (£1800 x 3 = £5400+ £900).
47. If the same Tier 1 Migrant and their family had been present in the UK for two years, they would require evidence that they held £2700 (£600 x 3 = £1800 + £900) in available funds.

If I am wrong in interpreting the policy guidance then please point where.

Read point 46: ''is making an application at the same time as their spouse and two children''

Self Maintenance only need to show if application is done same time , also on dependent form read page 26 & 27