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Post by TheGreenTea » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:43 am

dupuytren wrote:Hi all

I wrote my 5th letter of complaint to UKBA and posted it to the Liverpool address on Fri 5 Apr using signed for delivery (I got 2 different addresses for Liverpool as posted by let_koko recently - thank you). Before this I have sent it to the London complaints address, emailed them 3x, faxed them 3x (Liverpool number) and contacted my MP 2x.

Today I received a phone call at 4.30pm from UKBA saying that they have received my letter dated 5 Apr, saying that my application is in a storage facility in Liverpool and still not assigned to a caseworker,but she was very apologetic and assured me that she will contact the casworker manager tomorrow to ensure it is assigned to someone asap. She says this will take a futher 6 months (!!!!!!).

Moral of the story:
1. My MP is useless
2. Send a letter to them using their Liverpool address once you have surpassed 6 months - seems to work for me! (I applied 7 mths ago)
:shock: Storage?!! And you would think they want to keep doctors in the country - they seem to be always complaining about the shortage of specialists here.
I didn't even know HO had "storage"! Naturally, I am concerned about my application as well.

I hope your case will be decided quickly now.

Why did you not apply at PEO?

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what liverpool address did you send postal complaint to

Post by RK001002 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:01 am

Hi Dupuytren

what liverpool address did you send your postal complaint to?

Thanks
RK
dupuytren wrote:Hi all

I wrote my 5th letter of complaint to UKBA and posted it to the Liverpool address on Fri 5 Apr using signed for delivery (I got 2 different addresses for Liverpool as posted by let_koko recently - thank you). Before this I have sent it to the London complaints address, emailed them 3x, faxed them 3x (Liverpool number) and contacted my MP 2x.

Today I received a phone call at 4.30pm from UKBA saying that they have received my letter dated 5 Apr, saying that my application is in a storage facility in Liverpool and still not assigned to a caseworker,but she was very apologetic and assured me that she will contact the casworker manager tomorrow to ensure it is assigned to someone asap. She says this will take a futher 6 months (!!!!!!).

Moral of the story:
1. My MP is useless
2. Send a letter to them using their Liverpool address once you have surpassed 6 months - seems to work for me! (I applied 7 mths ago)

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Post by saanju9 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:42 am

TheGreenTea wrote:
Why did you not apply at PEO?

In the PEO???...are you sure your in the right thread???..
Sarah1 wrote:
Hello,
I have good news and bad news! My solicitor phoned me to tell me I got my ilr. My application confirmation date was 08/08/2012 despite my solicitor posted it a month before, so it took them a month to open my pack. Relieved that I've got it, my solicitor's secretary said she will send me the invoice! I thought it would come to £10-£20 for postage, she claimed it would be £300! That's on top of the £500 I paid already. She then sent me an email attachment with a scan of an email, proving she'd emailed me confirming this, but I'd never seen that email before! First sessions, which was just consultation, I paid £200. On next session which I gave him all my documents I paid another £300. They had told me the application fee would be £500 only. Now they're saying as my sessions were more than 2 months apart, first session is not included in the cost of standard ilr application!
I gave my application to solicitor as I had about 2 weeks gap, due to my clerical error on a student Visa application form in 2006. Now I wish I hadn't! It's not about £300 extra on top of 8 months wait. It's about my solicitor making me feel totally stupid, claiming they told me first session is not inclusive and they sent me an email. They still have my passport and BRP card, so I have no power it seems!
Any thoughts on this tricky situation would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
1. negotiate - tell them all the problems you got (no job, no money, broke - few examples).

2. If you think you being ripped of by a solicitor, I think this is the place you got to go to - The Solicitors Regulation Authority (SRA) -

google them and contact them. May be you will be lucky..

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Post by saanju9 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:07 pm

Grandmother is not very well and had been admitted into the hospital.
I have contacted my MP (MP is on maternity leave so her PA) and gave him my details through an email. I will have to see what they can do for me

I am not keeping my hopes high on my MP's involvement but lets see what happens

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How many day out of UK are disregarded for 10 years ILR now?

Post by M2013 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:30 pm

I understand the rules are updated. Does anyone have got the link or any information regarding:
Number of days out of the country for 10 years long ILR,
are there are specifications for the last year before the application? Thanks.

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UPDATE

Post by let_koko » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:07 pm

Hi guys
This is just to update you about my naturalization application.

I received the pack this morning but unfortunately, it was refused, reason been, I HAVE TO WAIT FOR A YEAR.

I shall re-apply once a year has passed

Best of luck to those still waiting for ILR

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Re: UPDATE

Post by M2013 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:14 pm

let_koko wrote:Hi guys
This is just to update you about my naturalization application.

I received the pack this morning but unfortunately, it was refused, reason been, I HAVE TO WAIT FOR A YEAR.

I shall re-apply once a year has passed

Best of luck to those still waiting for ILR
Sorry to hear it.
Does it mean that one year should pass after you have received ILR?
What date was your ILR issued?
Did they state the details for their decision?

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Post by TheGreenTea » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:50 pm

saanju9 wrote:
TheGreenTea wrote:
Why did you not apply at PEO?

In the PEO???...are you sure your in the right thread???..
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas ... ettlement/

Applying for settlement from inside the UK

There are two ways of applying for settlement: by post or through a public enquiry office.

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Post by saanju9 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:19 pm

TheGreenTea wrote:
saanju9 wrote:
TheGreenTea wrote:
Why did you not apply at PEO?

In the PEO???...are you sure your in the right thread???..
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas ... ettlement/

Applying for settlement from inside the UK

There are two ways of applying for settlement: by post or through a public enquiry office.
yeah but 10 year long residency has 1 way of applying by post

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Post by TheGreenTea » Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:57 pm

Saanju9,

You can apply in person for Set(o) 10 year, unless you are in the "exceptions" group.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visa ... et%28o%29/
You can post your application to us, or apply in person at one of our public enquiry offices - this is a same-day service, available at a premium fee and by appointment only, and is only suitable for straightforward applications that will not require further enquiries. You cannot apply in person if you are currently in one of the following categories:

Tier 1 (Entrepreneur)
Tier 1 (Investor)
businessperson
innovator
investor
self-employed lawyer

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Post by lambu1 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:05 pm

TheGreenTea - NO ONE CAN AND HAS BEEN ABLE TO APPLY UNDER THE 10 YEAR RULE by using PEO .

Has anyone?

read all the rules again - or have they recently changed. If that was the case why the f*&^ are people here waiting for upwards of 8 months to get their passports back?

:evil:

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Post by viglen210 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:13 pm

This is a recent update from ukba about applications for SETO.



The total number of Set (O) applications received in August 2012 was 2,455 and in September 2012 was 2,595.
Of the 2,455 applications received in August, 1,248 have been decided and of the 2,595 cases received in September 957 have been decided.
Of the 2,521 applications received in October 2012, 795 have been decided and of the 2,249 received in November 2012 756 have been decided.
As far as possible applications are dealt with in date order of receipt, however the Home Office commissions various checks dependent on the nature of the application made and the individual circumstances in each case. The time involved in this varies because the enquiries that have to be made can be complex and extensive, involving other government departments and agencies both inland and overseas. Thus some cases can be decided quicker than others received at the same time.
Our target is to conclude these applications within 6 months, and in the majority of cases are doing so. We are, however, always looking to improve our performance in this area and are taking steps to provide a faster and more reliable service.

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Post by saanju9 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:17 pm

TheGreenTea wrote:Saanju9,

You can apply in person for Set(o) 10 year, unless you are in the "exceptions" group.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visa ... et%28o%29/
You can post your application to us, or apply in person at one of our public enquiry offices - this is a same-day service, available at a premium fee and by appointment only, and is only suitable for straightforward applications that will not require further enquiries. You cannot apply in person if you are currently in one of the following categories:

Tier 1 (Entrepreneur)
Tier 1 (Investor)
businessperson
innovator
investor
self-employed lawyer
So why didn't you applied????

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Post by Hyper-PK » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:42 pm

viglen210 wrote:This is a recent update from ukba about applications for SETO.



The total number of Set (O) applications received in August 2012 was 2,455 and in September 2012 was 2,595.
Of the 2,455 applications received in August, 1,248 have been decided and of the 2,595 cases received in September 957 have been decided.
Of the 2,521 applications received in October 2012, 795 have been decided and of the 2,249 received in November 2012 756 have been decided.
As far as possible applications are dealt with in date order of receipt, however the Home Office commissions various checks dependent on the nature of the application made and the individual circumstances in each case. The time involved in this varies because the enquiries that have to be made can be complex and extensive, involving other government departments and agencies both inland and overseas. Thus some cases can be decided quicker than others received at the same time.
Our target is to conclude these applications within 6 months, and in the majority of cases are doing so. We are, however, always looking to improve our performance in this area and are taking steps to provide a faster and more reliable service.
That's pure lie. How come out of 2455 only decided 1248 which is almost 50% , so why they said 95% will be decided within 6 months,
And what kind of checks they are doing, why they did not do checks when we got 3-5 times extensions of visas, as in my scenarios I have filled all the requirements, no gape, no criminal history, always been in well reputed university since 2002, and I am sure most of us in this forum share same requirement, every in this category is genuine highly qualified. So how come a straight forward case can take over 7-8 month. Must be our case are stored in cold storage and no one bother to go in to pickup.
They are playing people's life in their so called civilised world. What a bull shit.

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Post by TheGreenTea » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:51 pm

lambu1 wrote:TheGreenTea - NO ONE CAN AND HAS BEEN ABLE TO APPLY UNDER THE 10 YEAR RULE by using PEO .

Has anyone?

read all the rules again - or have they recently changed. If that was the case why the f*&^ are people here waiting for upwards of 8 months to get their passports back?

:evil:
Not true. At least in the autumn 2012 you were able to apply through PEO for SET (o). I have no idea if that was not possible before September 2012, as I haven't looked into the SET (O) application before that
And read the link i have provided - it clearly states that you can apply at PEO in person.

saanju9 My lawyer advised me to apply via post, as my case is complicated and my application would have been
a) either rejected on the day
b) or sent to the senior case worker (which can be again up to 6 months and equivalent to postal application)

From I have seen as well, a lot of people chose postal application because it was either cheaper or they failed to get a PEO appointment before their current visa expires.

Today this is what is stated on UKBA website
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas ... et%28o%29/
Making an application

Section 9 of form SET(O) lists the documents that you must send with your application. You should send the original documents, not copies. In exceptional circumstances, we may accept a photocopy that is certified as an accurate copy by the body or authority that issued the original, or by a notary - but you must include a letter explaining why you are providing a certified copy rather than the original document.

You can post your application to us, or apply in person at one of our public enquiry offices - this is a same-day service, available at a premium fee and by appointment only, and is only suitable for straightforward applications that will not require further enquiries. You cannot apply in person if you are currently in one of the following categories:

Tier 1 (Entrepreneur)
Tier 1 (Investor)
businessperson
innovator
investor
self-employed lawyer

We cannot tell in advance how long it will take to decide your application, so you should not make non-urgent travel plans until we have returned your passport to you. Our service standards for processing applications show how quickly we aim to make a decision

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New SET (LR)

Post by saanju9 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:55 pm

Hi guys for those who are going to apply newly in this category (10 Yr Long Residency route). there is a new application.

It can be only posted and no PEO services for this route. Please don't book any PEO appointments because you will be turned down

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... formlr.pdf

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Post by saanju9 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:07 pm

TheGreenTea wrote:
Not true. At least in the autumn 2012 you were able to apply through PEO for SET (o). I have no idea if that was not possible before September 2012, as I haven't looked into the SET (O) application before that
And read the link i have provided - it clearly states that you can apply at PEO in person.

saanju9 My lawyer advised me to apply via post, as my case is complicated and my application would have been
a) either rejected on the day
b) or sent to the senior case worker (which can be again up to 6 months and equivalent to postal application)

From I have seen as well, a lot of people chose postal application because it was either cheaper or they failed to get a PEO appointment before their current visa expires.

Today this is what is stated on UKBA website
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas ... et%28o%29/

Nope when you go into the previous SET (O) application it clearly stated that 10 yr long residency route application are accepted only through Postal services.
The PEO services has been stopped in 2010 for this route.
You could have had a complicated case but your lawyer has given a bit of wrong information or you might have been persistent and therefore he might have told you in such a way to pacify the argument. ( I am not sure y he said that)

Anyways follow the link in my previous post and see the black ink wording on the front page above the Durham address.. Please..

If your still not convinced there is a post in this thread by "smshad" which gave you full details of when and why it was stopped. Re-post me if you can't find it. I will search for you and re- post it

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Post by TheGreenTea » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:19 pm

The link you have provided is for Set (LR) form. Not Set (O)

This is the current form for Set (o)

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... o04091.pdf

Applications made on or after 6 April 2013

An on the front page says you can make it in person!
From this page:

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas ... et%28o%29/

Don't want want to argue about the past - as it doesn't matter to me now 8) [/quote]

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Post by saanju9 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:31 pm

TheGreenTea wrote:The link you have provided is for Set (LR) form. Not Set (O)

This is the current form for Set (o)

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... o04091.pdf

Applications made on or after 6 April 2013

An on the front page says you can make it in person!
From this page:

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas ... et%28o%29/
The application made after 6 th april 2013 through 10 Long Residence route has to be applied on SET (LR)

the SET(O) link you sent DOES NOT contain the 10 YR Long Resi category please check the page 1 and page 9.

This is route use to appear in the those 5 or 6 categories which cannot apply at the PEO on SET(O) but it might have been taken out because now this route has a separate and dedicated application form SET(LR) now

I am just trying give correct information to the followers in this thread...nothing personal

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Re: Please I need your help urgently

Post by aniekan12 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:37 pm

Please I need your advice urgently on what to do. I have been given indefinite leave to remain based on 10 year rule in January 2013. I made FLR(M) postal application for my wife on the 27th February 2013. We have been married since June 2008 and we have leave together since then. My last leave to remain before I had my indefinite leave to remain was Tier 1 General(HSMP) which I had for 3 years.

I have just receive a letter from the UK border agency saying I need to submit the following:
- Wage slips covering 6 months
- Employers letter for myself and wife
- Bank details covering 6 months
- Most recent council tax bill
- Tenancy agreement and letter from the landlord.

Based on the information that they need, I think the caseworker is assessing my application based on the rule after 9th July, 2012. Considering that I have been married since 2008, I thought I was exempted from the rule.

Please advice on what I should do. I need to send all the above documents on 12th April, 2013. Thanks for your help and God bless

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Post by TheGreenTea » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:49 pm

saanju9

Yes, you are right!

:oops:

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Post by essentialSalt » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:58 pm

viglen210 wrote:This is a recent update from ukba about applications for SETO.



The total number of Set (O) applications received in August 2012 was 2,455 and in September 2012 was 2,595.
Of the 2,455 applications received in August, 1,248 have been decided and of the 2,595 cases received in September 957 have been decided.
Of the 2,521 applications received in October 2012, 795 have been decided and of the 2,249 received in November 2012 756 have been decided.
As far as possible applications are dealt with in date order of receipt, however the Home Office commissions various checks dependent on the nature of the application made and the individual circumstances in each case. The time involved in this varies because the enquiries that have to be made can be complex and extensive, involving other government departments and agencies both inland and overseas. Thus some cases can be decided quicker than others received at the same time.
Our target is to conclude these applications within 6 months, and in the majority of cases are doing so. We are, however, always looking to improve our performance in this area and are taking steps to provide a faster and more reliable service.
Where did you get these numbers? Is this an official statement from the home office?

So the number of overall applications seems to be decreasing from last year or a year before that.

The last sentence in bold is what I hope is a sign that the public services have started to pay attention to what their stakeholders are saying. One thing that I have always disliked about (using) the public services is that they don't listen to stakeholders and as a stakeholder, you are always dealing with the organisation, not with people who actually work there. It appears that no single person or a group wants to take the responsibility for the delay. In our case (or mine), I am not allowed to speak with my case worker or the team of case workers that is responsible for my case. It's not just the home office. I have always felt powerless when dealing with the public services at all levels, local or central government. I am always the worthless worm and they are the big guy.

In the private sector, even in a company that employes more than 100,000 people, as a customer, you can always deal with a representative(s) face to face and you know who you are dealing with. They never say "I don't know why there is a delay. You have to ask a person who is responsible." If you heard statements like this in the private sector, you would think "you all work for the same company. Have a little pride in what you do and services you provide. Don't blame your colleagues."

I guess changes only come slowly.

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Re: Please I need your help urgently

Post by saanju9 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:29 pm

aniekan12 wrote:Please I need your advice urgently on what to do. I have been given indefinite leave to remain based on 10 year rule in January 2013. I made FLR(M) postal application for my wife on the 27th February 2013. We have been married since June 2008 and we have leave together since then. My last leave to remain before I had my indefinite leave to remain was Tier 1 General(HSMP) which I had for 3 years.

I have just receive a letter from the UK border agency saying I need to submit the following:
- Wage slips covering 6 months
- Employers letter for myself and wife
- Bank details covering 6 months
- Most recent council tax bill
- Tenancy agreement and letter from the landlord.

Based on the information that they need, I think the caseworker is assessing my application based on the rule after 9th July, 2012. Considering that I have been married since 2008, I thought I was exempted from the rule.

Please advice on what I should do. I need to send all the above documents on 12th April, 2013. Thanks for your help and God bless
1. Did you mention in the application or the cover letter, that you will fall under the pre july 2012 rules??

2. did you gave any supporting documents (at all) to say that you can support ureselves (bank statements, pay slips, accomadation)

3. How many of these documents can you provide and with relevant funds??

If you can provide all of these documents or most of them then you don't need to worry about it...(i.e., your salary combined or on its own is more than £18k provided you don't have any other dependents) just provide them

If you don't have all of them or most of them...just provide them as much documents as possible and write a letter clearly stating that when your previous visa was granted and what rules you fell under.

I mean either way just write them a letter indicating your previous visa details and the rules under which you fell.

I hope this is clear...if not post back what issues u have

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ILR in 6 months

Post by coolfella » Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:46 pm

Hi all,

I received my passport on 19th March 2013 and ILR card on following week.
Date of application was 27th Sept 2012. Acknowledge letter was received in a month time.

Those of you waiting, hope you all get your ILR come through as soon as possible.

-IM

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Re: Please I need your help urgently

Post by aniekan12 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:57 pm

saanju9 wrote:
aniekan12 wrote:Please I need your advice urgently on what to do. I have been given indefinite leave to remain based on 10 year rule in January 2013. I made FLR(M) postal application for my wife on the 27th February 2013. We have been married since June 2008 and we have leave together since then. My last leave to remain before I had my indefinite leave to remain was Tier 1 General(HSMP) which I had for 3 years.

I have just receive a letter from the UK border agency saying I need to submit the following:
- Wage slips covering 6 months
- Employers letter for myself and wife
- Bank details covering 6 months
- Most recent council tax bill
- Tenancy agreement and letter from the landlord.

Based on the information that they need, I think the caseworker is assessing my application based on the rule after 9th July, 2012. Considering that I have been married since 2008, I thought I was exempted from the rule.

Please advice on what I should do. I need to send all the above documents on 12th April, 2013. Thanks for your help and God bless
1. Did you mention in the application or the cover letter, that you will fall under the pre july 2012 rules??

2. did you gave any supporting documents (at all) to say that you can support ureselves (bank statements, pay slips, accomadation)

3. How many of these documents can you provide and with relevant funds??

If you can provide all of these documents or most of them then you don't need to worry about it...(i.e., your salary combined or on its own is more than £18k provided you don't have any other dependents) just provide them

If you don't have all of them or most of them...just provide them as much documents as possible and write a letter clearly stating that when your previous visa was granted and what rules you fell under.

I mean either way just write them a letter indicating your previous visa details and the rules under which you fell.

I hope this is clear...if not post back what issues u have
Hi Saanju9,

Thanks so much for your help. I didn't mention in my application that I fall under the pre July rules. I thought they should know that.

I included all the documents that were required for the pre July rule.

I have some of the documents but my worry is if my partners flr(m) is approved based on the new rule, that means she will have to wait for 5 years before application for the indefinite leave to remain.

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