ILR postal applications (excluding 10/14 yr.)

[jcolyers]

How was your passport returned?
I have been a silent reader for some time now, and today got a letter stating that my BRP would come by courier, and that my passport and documents had been returned along with this letter - but there is nothing here but the letter!
What does this mean? I called UKBA to enquire and they told me all I could do was submit a document return request - am I worrying about nothing?

Here is my timeline:
Date of application: 3 October 2012 through checking service
Acknowledgement: 10 days later
BMI taken: 28th November
Letter received: 8th April
Documents: Awaiting
BRP: Awaiting

For me the letter that I received had all documents enclosed including passport. The letter like yours said BRP will be sent within 7 days.
I am not sure filling in a request of documents is a good one asi believe you only complete that when you are withdrawing your application.

My advice would be to follow what's on the letter and wait for your BRP as they say..then when you get that you can request your documents if by then you haven't received them.

Guess I keep waiting and praying then! Frustrating as my family just left for our Florida holiday. Thanks

[jcolyers]

How was your passport returned?
I have been a silent reader for some time now, and today got a letter stating that my BRP would come by courier, and that my passport and documents had been returned along with this letter - but there is nothing here but the letter!
What does this mean? I called UKBA to enquire and they told me all I could do was submit a document return request - am I worrying about nothing?

Here is my timeline:
Date of application: 3 October 2012 through checking service
Acknowledgement: 10 days later
BMI taken: 28th November
Letter received: 8th April
Documents: Awaiting
BRP: Awaiting

Since your submission was through SCS you will only receive your approval letter and thereafter Biometric Card unless any original document was also submitted which I don't think so. So that letter that you received is the standard letter and nothing to worry about.

But the one original document they did keep was my passport And the letter is saying it is enclosed (which it's not)
Having come this far, I guess I keep praying,
thanks

[maryagn3s]

I got my passport and docs back today (so 2 days shy of 6 months after applying my ILR was approved).

applied 12 Oct 2012
did biometrics twice (dec 12 and feb 13)
got a phone call from UKBA when they started processing my app last week to confirm my address

received docs and passport today

YAY!
I was pretty detailed in what I submitted. Wrote a long cover letter and ran it by a solicitor.

Mx

[go2khurram]

Can some one tell what is the date from which ILR starts in case of postal application ?

From the date mentioned in the ILR Approval letter

[Nobbly]

I received my approval letter dated 25/03/13 and it mentioned that BRP would be sent within 7 days.. The letter mentions that you should email or write if you do not get the BRP within 10 days...

It's now 14th day and I emailed ukba on the 5th and again yesterday.. Below is the same automated response which is clearly out of date...makes me wonder do these emails get any attention if the response is so out of date?

Thank you for your enquiry regarding the delivery of your Biometric Residence Permit. If we require further information to help us answer your enquiry, we will contact you. Provided we have all the information we require, your enquiry will be answered within 5 working days of receipt. Please do not reply to this e-mail or re-send your enquiry unless we ask you to do so.

Please note that this office will be closed 29th March 2013 – 2nd April 2013.
If you have not received a response to your enquiry within 28 days of sending your original enquiry, you should re-send it or write to us at:

Freepost RRYX-GLYU-GXHZ
Returns Unit
P.O. Box 163
Bristol BS20 1AB

You are advised not to make any travel arrangements while this matter is being investigated.


Thank you
BRP Management Service

My patience has ran out and replaced with frustration but hope will keep me going!!

[jcolyers]

How was your passport returned?
I have been a silent reader for some time now, and today got a letter stating that my BRP would come by courier, and that my passport and documents had been returned along with this letter - but there is nothing here but the letter!
What does this mean? I called UKBA to enquire and they told me all I could do was submit a document return request - am I worrying about nothing?

Here is my timeline:
Date of application: 3 October 2012 through checking service
Acknowledgement: 10 days later
BMI taken: 28th November
Letter received: 8th April
Documents: Awaiting
BRP: Awaiting

For me the letter that I received had all documents enclosed including passport. The letter like yours said BRP will be sent within 7 days.
I am not sure filling in a request of documents is a good one asi believe you only complete that when you are withdrawing your application.

My advice would be to follow what's on the letter and wait for your BRP as they say..then when you get that you can request your documents if by then you haven't received them.

Guess I keep waiting and praying then! Frustrating as my family just left for our Florida holiday. Thanks

Received my BRP yesterday, but still no passport. I have called with no luck, so I filled out a Document Return request - says it could take 20 days!. They clearly have no system for this.
So frustrating

[Javedmr]

Am I right in thinking that set o tier 1, 5 year route takes the longest? Also I am wondering that "if you look for information on the Internet you would get it" ie majority of the people get their ilr within six months and the unlucky few are the ones writing on this forum and it seems like every ilr application is getting delayed

[gmx]

which majority?

you can check my post here:

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... 644#818644

Am I right in thinking that set o tier 1, 5 year route takes the longest? Also I am wondering that "if you look for information on the Internet you would get it" ie majority of the people get their ilr within six months and the unlucky few are the ones writing on this forum and it seems like every ilr application is getting delayed

[Javedmr]

Hi did read your post, and I am still not certain if things are as bad as it seems. Th average time taken last year for granting ILR is about 4.5 months. Apply the 80 -20 principle here I would think the majority 60% got it in that time, the lucky 20% got it in less than that and the rest got it higher than average waiting period!! Am I reading it wrong or am I just bad at math.

which majority?

you can check my post here:

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... 644#818644

Am I right in thinking that set o tier 1, 5 year route takes the longest? Also I am wondering that "if you look for information on the Internet you would get it" ie majority of the people get their ilr within six months and the unlucky few are the ones writing on this forum and it seems like every ilr application is getting delayed

[gmx]

please look at the Pending numbers in Table 1, especially Jul, Aug, Sep, Oct. They are more than 6 months and form the majority who applied and are still waiting decisions

The rest are indeed the lucky ones

Hi did read your post, and I am still not certain if things are as bad as it seems. Th average time taken last year for granting ILR is about 4.5 months. Apply the 80 -20 principle here I would think the majority 60% got it in that time, the lucky 20% got it in less than that and the rest got it higher than average waiting period!! Am I reading it wrong or am I just bad at math.

which majority?

you can check my post here:

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... 644#818644

Am I right in thinking that set o tier 1, 5 year route takes the longest? Also I am wondering that "if you look for information on the Internet you would get it" ie majority of the people get their ilr within six months and the unlucky few are the ones writing on this forum and it seems like every ilr application is getting delayed

[mike_k]

Hi everyone, I am a long time reader of this forum, but this is my first post. My wife and I applied for ILR almost 6 months ago and have not heard anything since. We applied via the postal route on the basis that according to UKBA guidance "we will: decide 95% of postal applications within six months..." (http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas ... tingtimes/). Clearly we rolled the dice here, but I given those odds I thought it was better to wait a month or two extra rather than fork over the extra cash for the premium service. However, after finding this document

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... 026061.pdf

it is clear that the advertised standards are not even close to being met. The reply to the freedom of information request referenced above is dated 5/4/13, so that means that September applicants have been waiting for longer than six months. However, 78% of applications are still pending. The statistics for the previous 2 months are almost as bad (both have 66% still pending).

This has had quite an impact on my life. We have not been able to travel back to see friends and family. My parents have not been able to see their new grandson, etc. Aside from the emotional/family stuff, I do feel that this delay has also come with a financial penalty. I have not been able to travel for work, and this is beginning to impact on my ability to do my job. I am an expert in a specialist field of engineering. My work requires me to travel occasionally to meet with other technical specialists - particularly if we are working on collaborative projects funded via the EU. Obviously I have not been able to fulfill this component of my job and I feel this is beginning to harm my career progression. However, given the application has been with the UKBA so long, I am loathe to pull it now and lose the £1500 application fee.

Given the above, I am eager to hear the opinions of those on this forum about the possibility of seeking compensation from the UKBA for the inconvenience that they are causing. The grounds for the action would be that the UKBA do not accurately advertise their processing times and that this misadvertisment induces people to apply via the postal route at significant emotional/financial cost. I am not too sure about proceeding with a case by myself, but am interested in hearing your thoughts on whether it would be possible to organise a class-action type lawsuit to prosecute this case.

[Wheresmyilr]

Not sure about the law but I suspect you will be tilting at windmills here.

Just as a point about those statistics in the foi letter, even though the reply was as at 5/4/2013 it doesn't actually state the date the statistics were valid as of. Looking at the maximum processing times for each month I would guess they are as at 31/12/2012 and not 5/4/2013.

[Javedmr]

I see what's happening here, I believe you have assumed that this data is run on the 5 th of April, and this world looks bleak.

Data takes time to find its way in to tables and then on to the Internet, I can bet that this data was run on the 31st of Decmber last year. Table one doesn't look that bad anymore does it?

please look at the Pending numbers in Table 1, especially Jul, Aug, Sep, Oct. They are more than 6 months and form the majority who applied and are still waiting decisions

The rest are indeed the lucky ones

Hi did read your post, and I am still not certain if things are as bad as it seems. Th average time taken last year for granting ILR is about 4.5 months. Apply the 80 -20 principle here I would think the majority 60% got it in that time, the lucky 20% got it in less than that and the rest got it higher than average waiting period!! Am I reading it wrong or am I just bad at math.

which majority?

you can check my post here:

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... 644#818644

Am I right in thinking that set o tier 1, 5 year route takes the longest? Also I am wondering that "if you look for information on the Internet you would get it" ie majority of the people get their ilr within six months and the unlucky few are the ones writing on this forum and it seems like every ilr application is getting delayed

[Javedmr]

There Where Is My ILR agreed with me even before I reached that conclusion.LOL Funny name look me longer to figure lol

Just as a point about those statistics in the foi letter, even though the reply was as at 5/4/2013 it doesn't actually state the date the statistics were valid as of. Looking at the maximum processing times for each month I would guess they are as at 31/12/2012 and not 5/4/2013.

[mike_k]

Not sure about the law but I suspect you will be tilting at windmills here.

Just as a point about those statistics in the foi letter, even though the reply was as at 5/4/2013 it doesn't actually state the date the statistics were valid as of. Looking at the maximum processing times for each month I would guess they are as at 31/12/2012 and not 5/4/2013.

Thanks for the reply. I agree that the data would appear to be more sensible if it was for applications processed by the end of last year. However, the FOI letter requested data as of 'now', which strictly should be either interpreted as the date of reply or the date that the enquiry was made (end of Jan from memory). If it is the end of Jan, then it would be reasonable to assume that at that time they only had data available up to the end of the previous month, so maybe 31 Dec is the date on which the data was collated.

So we have 3 possible dates on which the data may have been collated. I bloody well hope it was the end of Dec rather than April!! I know of at least one more FOI request which should clarify this. I think I will wait until this has been responded to before getting all worked up again... I'd appreciate any information (not conjecture) that anybody comes across. Cheers

[tasawar]

Hi

ILR application Set(M)went PEO Solihull on 04-04-2013 persnt 5 documents of co habitation and got approval and received BRB card on 06-04-2013.

[Wheresmyilr]

Not sure about the law but I suspect you will be tilting at windmills here.

Just as a point about those statistics in the foi letter, even though the reply was as at 5/4/2013 it doesn't actually state the date the statistics were valid as of. Looking at the maximum processing times for each month I would guess they are as at 31/12/2012 and not 5/4/2013.

Thanks for the reply. I agree that the data would appear to be more sensible if it was for applications processed by the end of last year. However, the FOI letter requested data as of 'now', which strictly should be either interpreted as the date of reply or the date that the enquiry was made (end of Jan from memory). If it is the end of Jan, then it would be reasonable to assume that at that time they only had data available up to the end of the previous month, so maybe 31 Dec is the date on which the data was collated.

So we have 3 possible dates on which the data may have been collated. I bloody well hope it was the end of Dec rather than April!! I know of at least one more FOI request which should clarify this. I think I will wait until this has been responded to before getting all worked up again... I'd appreciate any information (not conjecture) that anybody comes across. Cheers

I believe table 3, specifically the maximum time tells us this was as at 31/12, otherwise if it was for April and I am interpreting it correctly it means they have not granted any 2012 application so far this year.

[mike_k]

Not sure about the law but I suspect you will be tilting at windmills here.

Just as a point about those statistics in the foi letter, even though the reply was as at 5/4/2013 it doesn't actually state the date the statistics were valid as of. Looking at the maximum processing times for each month I would guess they are as at 31/12/2012 and not 5/4/2013.

Thanks for the reply. I agree that the data would appear to be more sensible if it was for applications processed by the end of last year. However, the FOI letter requested data as of 'now', which strictly should be either interpreted as the date of reply or the date that the enquiry was made (end of Jan from memory). If it is the end of Jan, then it would be reasonable to assume that at that time they only had data available up to the end of the previous month, so maybe 31 Dec is the date on which the data was collated.

So we have 3 possible dates on which the data may have been collated. I bloody well hope it was the end of Dec rather than April!! I know of at least one more FOI request which should clarify this. I think I will wait until this has been responded to before getting all worked up again... I'd appreciate any information (not conjecture) that anybody comes across. Cheers

I believe table 3, specifically the maximum time tells us this was as at 31/12, otherwise if it was for April and I am interpreting it correctly it means they have not granted any 2012 application so far this year.

Ahh, I see what you mean. Sorry, I must have had too many beers last night... Good spotting! Well, this makes me feel much better. Thanks for putting me right! I'm still keen to see the stats for this year. If I spot them then I'll be sure to post the link here.

[gmx]

Of course not on 05/04 LOL.

I assume the data was taken between two weeks and one month before the letter date. Why? Because I have gone through some other FoI requests where it states when the data in the report was generated.

Look at:
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... r_postal_a
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... ations_jul
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... or_applica
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... _times_mid
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... _in_july_2


I do sincerely hope that I have the wrong assumption...

I see what's happening here, I believe you have assumed that this data is run on the 5 th of April, and this world looks bleak.

Data takes time to find its way in to tables and then on to the Internet, I can bet that this data was run on the 31st of Decmber last year. Table one doesn't look that bad anymore does it?

please look at the Pending numbers in Table 1, especially Jul, Aug, Sep, Oct. They are more than 6 months and form the majority who applied and are still waiting decisions

The rest are indeed the lucky ones

Hi did read your post, and I am still not certain if things are as bad as it seems. Th average time taken last year for granting ILR is about 4.5 months. Apply the 80 -20 principle here I would think the majority 60% got it in that time, the lucky 20% got it in less than that and the rest got it higher than average waiting period!! Am I reading it wrong or am I just bad at math.

which majority?

you can check my post here:

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... 644#818644

[Wheresmyilr]

Of course not on 05/04 LOL.

I assume the data was taken between two weeks and one month before the letter date. Why? Because I have gone through some other FoI requests where it states when the data in the report was generated.

Look at:
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... r_postal_a
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... ations_jul
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... or_applica
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... _times_mid
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... _in_july_2


I do sincerely hope that I have the wrong assumption...

I see what's happening here, I believe you have assumed that this data is run on the 5 th of April, and this world looks bleak.

Data takes time to find its way in to tables and then on to the Internet, I can bet that this data was run on the 31st of Decmber last year. Table one doesn't look that bad anymore does it?

please look at the Pending numbers in Table 1, especially Jul, Aug, Sep, Oct. They are more than 6 months and form the majority who applied and are still waiting decisions

The rest are indeed the lucky ones

Hi did read your post, and I am still not certain if things are as bad as it seems. Th average time taken last year for granting ILR is about 4.5 months. Apply the 80 -20 principle here I would think the majority 60% got it in that time, the lucky 20% got it in less than that and the rest got it higher than average waiting period!! Am I reading it wrong or am I just bad at math.

I am not convinced your assumption is correct. The reason being table 3 and the maximum time row. If your assumption is correct and my interpretation of the maximum number of days it is taking to grant an application received in any month in 2012 is correct it would mean they have not granted any 2012 applications this year.

[gmx]

I think you're right. The data must have been generated close to end of last year.

But looking at the other reports, I still think only a minority of applications have got their decisions within 6 months.

Of course not on 05/04 LOL.

I assume the data was taken between two weeks and one month before the letter date. Why? Because I have gone through some other FoI requests where it states when the data in the report was generated.

Look at:
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... r_postal_a
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... ations_jul
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... or_applica
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... _times_mid
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... _in_july_2


I do sincerely hope that I have the wrong assumption...

I see what's happening here, I believe you have assumed that this data is run on the 5 th of April, and this world looks bleak.

Data takes time to find its way in to tables and then on to the Internet, I can bet that this data was run on the 31st of Decmber last year. Table one doesn't look that bad anymore does it?

please look at the Pending numbers in Table 1, especially Jul, Aug, Sep, Oct. They are more than 6 months and form the majority who applied and are still waiting decisions

The rest are indeed the lucky ones

I am not convinced your assumption is correct. The reason being table 3 and the maximum time row. If your assumption is correct and my interpretation of the maximum number of days it is taking to grant an application received in any month in 2012 is correct it would mean they have not granted any 2012 applications this year.

[balixonline]

I only partially blame UKBA. Has anyone made an official complaint? I am submitting a FOI request to see how many complaints UKBA received in last 365 days.

The only way you can see changes if each individual submits a complaint if his or her case takes more than 4 weeks.

Why do we expect minimum standards be taken as targets despite of each of us paying a huge amount for his or her application being considered. What do we have to hide? if nothing why aren't we making noise about it other than just discussing on forums which aren't official?

I encourage each individual to submit a complaint, copy it to CEO, MP of state of immigration and local MP.

I did what i say above, why not you?!!!

[gmx]

I did mine last week

I only partially blame UKBA. Has anyone made an official complaint? I am submitting a FOI request to see how many complaints UKBA received in last 365 days.

The only way you can see changes if each individual submits a complaint if his or her case takes more than 4 weeks.

Why do we expect minimum standards be taken as targets despite of each of us paying a huge amount for his or her application being considered. What do we have to hide? if nothing why aren't we making noise about it other than just discussing on forums which aren't official?

I encourage each individual to submit a complaint, copy it to CEO, MP of state of immigration and local MP.

I did what i say above, why not you?!!!

[samriti2u]

Hi Gmx,

Did you send it to your MP and UKBA head?

[gmx]

No, that's for the next stage.

I sent it to UKBA complaints and Liverpool PEO

Hi Gmx,

Did you send it to your MP and UKBA head?