Yes I did. In terms of documentation, nothing was missing.kiss300 wrote:@price74
did you add a bank statement?
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(NOTE: UKBA staff who do house calls are "port staff" and their port is the centre they are from [in our case West Mids]).is initiated by issue of form IS 81.
3. What are the procedures when a passenger is informed by
a Border Force Officer that they are required to submit to a
further examination?
A Border Force Officer should advise the passenger that he is required to
submit to further examination by serving the passenger with form IS81. The
form also states to a passenger with continuing leave that this leave has been
suspended and the reasons for examination. Once the IS81 form has been
served to the passenger the Border Force Officer may resume his
examination at any time without further notice being issued. If the examination
is not completed at a subsequent interview the Border Force Officer should
advise the passenger verbally that the requirement still stands. A Border
Force Officer should serve a passenger with form IS81 under the following
circumstances:
1. When the initial examination is interrupted
2. When it is necessary to refer the passenger to the port medical inspector
3. When the examination is commenced during passage (on board a ship or
on a channel tunnel train journey) and is to be resumed ashore/on arrival
in the UK
4. when detention or temporary admission is necessary before a decision to
admit or refuse is reached
5. when a passenger requires fingerprinting
6. when a passenger’s travel document requires examination by a Forgery
Officer
7. when an IO needs to make a back office check.
Failure to issue an IS81 renders the activities listed above unlawful. Every
IS81 issued should be recorded by ports. This information must be captured
in order to accurately reflect the level of work undertaken at ports.
What a contradiction. Initially they said that financial dependence alone is not sufficient to meet the Zambrano criteria, now they are asking about financial dependence.mikilo2008 wrote:Hmmm prince that's a long wait. I pray you laugh last in Jesus name amen. Yes I got the refusal letter today. A lot of stories and then in support of your application you submitted ............ There is however insufficient evidence to show that the British citizen child would be unable to remain in the uk or another EEa state if you are forced to leave. You have failed to provide evidence as to why her father is not in the position to care for the child. She appears to have obtained British nationality on the basis that her father is a British citizen and registered her birth with you on .......... And by your own admission had some contact with the child. An unwillingness to assume care responsibility is not by itself sufficient for the claimed primary carer to assert that another direct relative or guardian is unable to care for the British citizen.
.............. Having reviewed your application you have not provided enough evidence to demostrate how you are financially responsible for the child.............stories and then this department is therefore not satisfied that if you we're forced to leave the uk miss ......... Would be unable to remain here another EEa member state. However should you wish to rely on private life established in the uk under article 8 of ECHR. The immigration rules now include provisions for applicants wishing to remain in the uk on the basis of their family private life. It you wish the UK Boarder agency to consider an application on this basis you must make a separate charged application using form FLR(M) for five years partner route or FLR(O) for the 5year parent or 10 year partner or parent route. For more info pls consult our website.............
As you appear to have no alternative basis to stay in the uk you should now make arrangements to leave if you fail to do so voluntarily your departure may be enforced. Your passport is therefore being retained however, should you wish to leave the Uk contact your local immigration team the passport you submitted would be returned when you are leaving the Uk. The local immigration team responsible for your case can be contacted on ...... That's a summary of it. The letter is like 5 pages.
i noticed that before tooPrince74 wrote:
What a contradiction. Initially they said that financial dependence alone is not sufficient to meet the Zambrano criteria, now they are asking about financial dependence.
All the reasons are dump excuses that are challenge able and will end up in issuance of the card when it gets to court. It's just that has I was advised EEa2 is better so I'm backing off zambrano. The lawyer wrote the covering letter I didn't know what he wrote in it but their response obviously reflected that he made mention about the child's father.mam2 wrote:Mikilo,
I'm speechless. For a father's name to be in birth cert, he should be present at registration if you are not married. That does not mean he had contact with the child in my case.
Did you state that he had contact with the child but cannot take care of him?
Well,I can only hope and wait. It's sad,very sad. How they support estranged parents to suddenly take of their children,I can't understand.
We got married in the registry with my Coa they called the ukba to verify my identity because i presented the photocopy of my passport and told them that the original is with the home officemam2 wrote:He should have given you a copy of the cover letter so you know what's is wriuteb. He wrote in your behalf and not for you. Anyway, EEA2, better. Did u get married iat registry /church here or it was a customary marriage? Proxy as we call it.
I believe most of the people working for UKBA at the moment are contract temps they pay £6.50..mam2 wrote:sarahassy wrote:wiggsy wrote:None that I know of. Someone said two people but he did not get back to give their circumstances when we asked him to. We can count on that. We will wait and see.sarahassy wrote:so sorry to hear this,I have lost energy and become spNo one on this forum has got DRC dIrectly from UKBA.This means their is some thing wrong.eg if your teach students how to work out compound interest, at the end of the year no one pass any question abt compound interest, it means they didn't understand you.If all Zambrano applications are failing there is a prob!
Exactly babz, this was why I mentioned earlier if anyone watched the programme on BBC 1 last week Monday.. These decisions made on zambrano doesn't make sense to me at all... And if they carry on like this, no one will get the DRC card directly from them , because incompetent temps are now dealing with our cases..Babz wrote:mam2 wrote:sarahassy wrote:I believe most of the people working for UKBA at the moment are contract temps they pay £6.50..wiggsy wrote: None that I know of. Someone said two people but he did not get back to give their circumstances when we asked him to. We can count on that. We will wait and see.
I believe what they give them is tick sheet,so if your application/documents don't tick all the boxes, it's a no no...applying discretion has varnished these days..If you watched the Dispatch Immigration Undercover documentary, remember one of the senior staff was telling the new recruits that 'family doesn't exist anymore'..So I'm thinking they are making it difficult for anyone applying for any family related visa.
Mine was EEA2 application.The reasons given were;kiss300 wrote:@babz
what reason did they give for refusing you ? if you can share. thanks