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Post by Why lie » Sat May 04, 2013 4:52 pm

Fayvritt wrote:
Why lie wrote:I had like less than 48 hours to provide them , I added all the letters written to me from my local mp , which had my name on it . Wasn't that enough ?
This is a clean article 8 case man, I still can't figure out what went wrong, but next time when u apply again state a major role u play in the child's life like for instance doing the school run and looking at him/her at home daily, while your wife's out working, with that they'll know the child will suffer without u so they will grant u to keep u safeguarding the child. They are interested in such situations.
Yes I stated every role I play , her School teacher wrote in the school letter that I pick her up after School . I attend parents meeting , her Gp did similar , her mother confirmed by writing to support , her grandmother supported with her own letter , I added over 50 photos of me and her together from birth till 6 . I sent everything possible to make it strong .

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Post by justice12 » Sat May 04, 2013 5:05 pm

Why lie wrote:I had like less than 48 hours to provide them , I added all the letters written to me from my local mp , which had my name on it . Wasn't that enough ?
The HO usually give 3 weeks notice , and your solicitor failed to send you the HO letter in time ! that's why you had no enough time , if I am in your place I will complain about him to the Low society ,
anyway I know you must be in real shock right now , as it's happened to me and I know what you are going trough .
but the mean thing is your ( family) and you still have that ,
the next step is your judicial review try to focus on that , good luck.

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Post by Fayvritt » Sat May 04, 2013 5:26 pm

Why lie wrote:
Fayvritt wrote:
Why lie wrote:I had like less than 48 hours to provide them , I added all the letters written to me from my local mp , which had my name on it . Wasn't that enough ?
This is a clean article 8 case man, I still can't figure out what went wrong, but next time when u apply again state a major role u play in the child's life like for instance doing the school run and looking at him/her at home daily, while your wife's out working, with that they'll know the child will suffer without u so they will grant u to keep u safeguarding the child. They are interested in such situations.
Yes I stated every role I play , her School teacher wrote in the school letter that I pick her up after School . I attend parents meeting , her Gp did similar , her mother confirmed by writing to support , her grandmother supported with her own letter , I added over 50 photos of me and her together from birth till 6 . I sent everything possible to make it strong .

She must work while u be the full time dad and that's what they consider as a major role, or if she has some illness or something like that. It shouldn't be a reason for refusal cos it's an article 8 matter but in order to avoid their funny ways u gotta have such evidences

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Post by justice12 » Sat May 04, 2013 5:33 pm

Fayvritt wrote:
Why lie wrote:I had like less than 48 hours to provide them , I added all the letters written to me from my local mp , which had my name on it . Wasn't that enough ?
This is a clean article 8 case man, I still can't figure out what went wrong, but next time when u apply again state a major role u play in the child's life like for instance doing the school run and looking at him/her at home daily, while your wife's out working, with that they'll know the child will suffer without u so they will grant u to keep u safeguarding the child. They are interested in such situations.
What went wrong is the case worker from the Job center ON 6.50 P/h that's the problem .
Clearly this is an error of law committed by an amateur .

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Post by sanny26 » Sat May 04, 2013 5:38 pm

justice12 wrote:
Why lie wrote:
Keisha wrote:@Why.....that reason is utterly atrocious.I don't think the case-worker knew what they were doing honestly.So,all they want is to separate u from ur daughter and bring emotional instability owards your daughter's welfare.These people are joking and how dare they say that...it really upsets me when I think about their decision.Don't let them get away with this Why coz your family needs you!!
I live with her , she has 2 other children I call my own , including my daughter , we provided photos of all of us . I couldn't prove I live with them cos I'm not in the system , i been here 10 yrs only 6 months legal ,I don't have nothing in my name , no bank account no nothing , so I couldn't prove on the that grounds that I live with them , maybe that's why I was refused , what do u guys think ?
Came on man you lived in this country long enough to know how to manage to get prove of cohabitation, is not that hard , you can register on the tesco online and they will send you hundred letter on your name !!
you could't prove that's you lived with your daughter and girl friend that's why you have been refused
and they asked for the prove of cohabitation and you didn't provide it .


I agree with justice i think thats the reason why you was refused, he's just telling you how it is love. u have been here for 10 years aint you got a doctor? I hope things work out for you doe,there's always a way round ukba the fact remains you got a 6 year old child soon to be 7... good luck...xx

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Post by Why lie » Sat May 04, 2013 6:13 pm

Thanks for all the support from u guys . I have decided to apply for a judiciary review as quickly as possible , hopefully on Wednesday , will meet with solicitor so we can start proceedings . Will update U guys soon . Cheers !

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Post by justice12 » Sat May 04, 2013 6:16 pm

Why lie wrote:Thanks for all the support from u guys . I have decided to apply for a judiciary review as quickly as possible , hopefully on Wednesday , will meet with solicitor so we can start proceedings . Will update U guys soon . Cheers !
well done . good luck

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Post by Keisha » Sat May 04, 2013 6:26 pm

@Justice..Its not about WHAT you said BUT about HOW you said it...that's all!

@Why....All the best and pray that it goes well for you.If they grant you a review,make sure you bring along ur partner and kids.Have a good weekend and keep us posted!

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Post by Azhaar » Sat May 04, 2013 9:24 pm

this is ridiculous, and very unfair, people from the EU come find a job marry the non eea and resident documents obtained without any issue.

people married to british national have to suffer and they mess up their life..

we have to strike, this should stop.. I do not agree with this..


why lie good luck with your JR..

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Post by oishola77778 » Sun May 05, 2013 1:07 am

@ why lie, I have reviewed your posts here and seems confused, can you confirm what basis was the application you submitted? Are you married to your partner? what is your status before submitting initial application? what is your spouse and childs status? I noticed on some of your post that you said they all have discretionary leave to remain and there is another post saying they are all british, please confirm.

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Post by oishola77778 » Sun May 05, 2013 1:28 am

Hello All, Just taught to keep in-touch with forum and share updates whilst my application is in process.

I was initially granted 3 years discretionary leave based on my marriage, this will expire in June 2013 and I am submitting FLR (O) to extend my leave next week 7th May 2013, I am married to my British spouse with 4 british children and my eldest is now 8 years, was originally granted discretionary leave due to entry clearance issues when I initially submitted FLR(M) in 2009 (came into UK with German Cousin via Germany with no UK entry clearance).

There are loads of evidence to confirm my marriage is subsisting as we recently had another baby, all my children are all British Citizens, as my initial discretionary leave was based on my marriage I am of view that my extension will basically be based on prove that my marriage is subsisting and not really my children, any advise?

I worked over the 3 years of initial discretionary leave as an Engineer with full contributory tax and have adequate proofs of cohabitation with my wife alongside proof of joint financial commitments, I have also collected a letter from my employer confirming my employment subsists and it is a permanent role with earnings of over 40k annually.

Please is there any advise on any document that I might need to include with this application?? listed below are documents already compiled:

FLR (O) application form, cover letter explaining application, 1 year payslip and bank statement, mortgage documents and utility billls on my name and my wife's name, pass notification of life in UK, degree certificate of Bsc taught in English in the UK, TOEFL result certificate, British passports of my wife and 4 children including all birth certificates,marriage certificate, contract of employment and letter from employer dated 1st May 2013 to confirm employment, my work require travelling abroad and my employer stated this on there letter and need for UKBA to swiftly complete my application.

Please any advise on any further document will be appreciated.

Advance timeline:

Application to be posted special delivery tuesday 7th May 2013.
UKBA to receive application 8th May 2013.

I look forward to your advise and will keep the board updated as things progress.

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Post by Why lie » Sun May 05, 2013 8:57 am

oishola77778 wrote:@ why lie, I have reviewed your posts here and seems confused, can you confirm what basis was the application you submitted? Are you married to your partner? what is your status before submitting initial application? what is your spouse and childs status? I noticed on some of your post that you said they all have discretionary leave to remain and there is another post saying they are all british, please confirm.
My girlfriend and daughter are both british , my girlfriend is white British to be precise , (not married ) u definitely misread some of my post . I didn't have no leave to remain before applying . I just think my case worker was having a bad day , if somebody was allowed to stay because of his cat , criminals allowed to stay because of fear of torture then I believe I have the right to stay regardless of the crappy excuse they gave !

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Post by oishola77778 » Sun May 05, 2013 9:52 am

@ why lie, yes you are correct about your caseworker having a bad day, funny enough most of the caseworkers are college students with little or no absolute experience or knowledge of what is called ''family'', I am sure you certainly will win your appeal and if you are going for judicial review make sure you firm it with your solicitor that you intend to re-claim all costs.

Is this your first FLR(O) application or you applied for an extension? Just to be sure am on the correct forum as I am applying for extension ( 2nd discretionary leave)

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Post by SICOV » Sun May 05, 2013 11:32 am

Why lie wrote:
oishola77778 wrote:@ why lie, I have reviewed your posts here and seems confused, can you confirm what basis was the application you submitted? Are you married to your partner? what is your status before submitting initial application? what is your spouse and childs status? I noticed on some of your post that you said they all have discretionary leave to remain and there is another post saying they are all british, please confirm.
My girlfriend and daughter are both british , my girlfriend is white British to be precise , (not married ) u definitely misread some of my post . I didn't have no leave to remain before applying . I just think my case worker was having a bad day , if somebody was allowed to stay because of his cat , criminals allowed to stay because of fear of torture then I believe I have the right to stay regardless of the crappy excuse they gave !




there is no way documents got to the caseworker in less than 48 hrs i think that's what went wrong , they made decision before documents even got there. solicitor is to be blamed for being too late

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Post by Time503 » Sun May 05, 2013 11:33 am

Why lie wrote:
oishola77778 wrote:@ why lie, I have reviewed your posts here and seems confused, can you confirm what basis was the application you submitted? Are you married to your partner? what is your status before submitting initial application? what is your spouse and childs status? I noticed on some of your post that you said they all have discretionary leave to remain and there is another post saying they are all british, please confirm.
My girlfriend and daughter are both british , my girlfriend is white British to be precise , (not married ) u definitely misread some of my post . I didn't have no leave to remain before applying . I just think my case worker was having a bad day , if somebody was allowed to stay because of his cat , criminals allowed to stay because of fear of torture then I believe I have the right to stay regardless of the crappy excuse they gave !
@why lie....I've been following the discussion about your refusal and I must say of everything said so far, your quote above really is the most touching and affirming.
Yes if a person can be granted stay based on their relationship with an animal how much more a relationship based on human connection.
This system is nothing but a joke!!!!
Don't you ever give up for you do have a case.

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Post by cookies » Sun May 05, 2013 1:08 pm

Time503 wrote:
Why lie wrote:
oishola77778 wrote:@ why lie, I have reviewed your posts here and seems confused, can you confirm what basis was the application you submitted? Are you married to your partner? what is your status before submitting initial application? what is your spouse and childs status? I noticed on some of your post that you said they all have discretionary leave to remain and there is another post saying they are all british, please confirm.
My girlfriend and daughter are both british , my girlfriend is white British to be precise , (not married ) u definitely misread some of my post . I didn't have no leave to remain before applying . I just think my case worker was having a bad day , if somebody was allowed to stay because of his cat , criminals allowed to stay because of fear of torture then I believe I have the right to stay regardless of the crappy excuse they gave !
@why lie....I've been following the discussion about your refusal and I must say of everything said so far, your quote above really is the most touching and affirming.
Yes if a person can be granted stay based on their relationship with an animal how much more a relationship based on human connection.
This system is nothing but a joke!!!!
Don't you ever give up for you do have a case.

That's right Why Lie!! DOn't give up and keep us posted!!! Good luck!
FLR(FP) Extension
App sent: July 2021
Biometrics August 2021
Decision: 14 July 2022
Final extension before irl

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Post by cookies » Sun May 05, 2013 4:04 pm

I thought this might be interesting reading material for all applicants with children http://www.lawcentreni.org/Publications ... h-2013.pdf
FLR(FP) Extension
App sent: July 2021
Biometrics August 2021
Decision: 14 July 2022
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Post by sanny26 » Sun May 05, 2013 4:51 pm

I cant stand the way ukba treats flr (o) applicants different from flr(m) we all paid the same fee but yet still their visa gets decided quickly even if they are fresh applicants and flr(o) applicants whose doing a extension have to wait so long for a decision. Fair enough we r human rights applicants but still doesnt give them the right to hold on to our documnets for so long its either yes or no instead of having us here living in limbo.... cant wait for the day when i dont have to deal with ukba i will be having a big party at my house to celebrate. Im sick and tired of waiting from last year october until now and still cant get a answer,i felt like my documents doesnt belongs to me anymore because ukba are keeping them hostage.. :evil:

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Post by pepper04 » Mon May 06, 2013 7:36 am

sanny26 wrote:I cant stand the way ukba treats flr (o) applicants different from flr(m) we all paid the same fee but yet still their visa gets decided quickly even if they are fresh applicants and flr(o) applicants whose doing a extension have to wait so long for a decision. Fair enough we r human rights applicants but still doesnt give them the right to hold on to our documnets for so long its either yes or no instead of having us here living in limbo.... cant wait for the day when i dont have to deal with ukba i will be having a big party at my house to celebrate. Im sick and tired of waiting from last year october until now and still cant get a answer,i felt like my documents doesnt belongs to me anymore because ukba are keeping them hostage.. :evil:
Hi Babes I know exactly how you feel. The waiting is horrible. It's even worse now after watching dispatches but we have to stay positive and try to distract ourselves even though it's hard. X

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Post by sanny26 » Mon May 06, 2013 9:40 am

whats the timeframe ukba have to respond to a mp query?

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Post by johnny04 » Mon May 06, 2013 9:40 am

Sanny26: You have been waiting since October last year and you are complaining. What
about my partner who have been waiting since May last year

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Post by pimpaporn » Mon May 06, 2013 10:06 am

hello anyone
who has any idea about appeal waiting time please .I very worry will have to wait another year agian thanks. :)

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Post by sanny26 » Mon May 06, 2013 10:12 am

johnny04 wrote:Sanny26: You have been waiting since October last year and you are complaining. What
about my partner who have been waiting since May last year

Is your partner doing a extension? I only can talk for me, im doing a extension not a fresh application so i wasnt expecting to wait this long and yes it annoys me because my application is not free i pay for the service so im expecting them to deal with my application in a timely manner so yes i will complain,and i aint gona stop bug them until i get a decision dont care what the answer is just take me out of my misery... I have got a very strong case so im not worried at all...

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Post by sanny26 » Mon May 06, 2013 10:24 am

Reason why i tink my case is very strong and that i wont get refuse,been in the ukba since the age of 14,been living here for 12 years,got 4 kids all were born in the uk.ages 9,7,6 and 1 year old. the 7 year old and 6 year old are british citizen,the 9 year old will be 10 in august so therefore he's entitled to register as a british citizen using the T FORM even though he's on my extension application and im the (main)primary carer. .

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Post by Fayvritt » Mon May 06, 2013 10:47 am

Guys what address should I send more supporting documents to (flr (o)), before it's decided? Thanks

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