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Contact Crimestoppers!Really?? I was thinking of doing that- is there any way of doing it anonymously?
Notice how you are suddenly worried about your 'friends' and their 'friends,' not criminal activity anymore.sakura wrote:Really?? I was thinking of doing that- is there any way of doing it anonymously? Hmm...wouldn't that be ratting out on the people I know? Even if I don't give any details, it might get their friends in trouble!?
I'd imagine the data is electronically audited and any change is reported higher up with the name of modifier.Jeff Albright wrote:I am not surprised about this. The BIA employs thousands of workers and most of them are on 15-18 grand a year as well as those earning half a million, like Lin Homer herself.
All of them have access to CID and can modify any data there. Who will check? There are millions of files. Most of them are sitting on LayBy and no action has been taken on them for decades. What stops someone just typing in a reference number and making any changes for a titbit worth a couple of grand??
dear-o-dear sakura !, there are 100s if not 1000s of better ways of committing an 'immigation crime' for staying legally, but I suspect by reading your posts is that, you are getting slightly drawn or inclined into that 'stream' ? Otherwise I don't see a point why you had to bring this into discussion at first instance.Change their names and age so that it does not match with the current tourist visa they have. i.e from 25 to 23, and from John Smith-Williams to Will Smith or something.
HomeOffice has very stringent security/vetting procedures in place for all those employees handling immigration files that are electronically stored.Jeff Albright wrote: I'd imagine the data is electronically audited and any change is reported higher up with the name of modifier.
Certainly the way in the places I work. Enron saga scared a lot of people so a lot of big orgs are archiving and auditing.
But - does the IND?
Not bizarre at all. If they are acting on it they may not keep you posted. If you've done what's legally obliged of you then keep the recorded delivery receipt and go on your way instead of obsessing about whether you've made a difference.I've already informed the BIA but nothing at all! Bizarre...
Without dates, names and locations they're not going to bother following it up. For all they know you could be some neo-nazi loony. Troublemakers and people who have just wild rumours rather than concrete facts also tend to write in anonymously. I'm not saying that you're a crank but from their perspective you may fit the profile.I sent an e-mail to Crimestoppers and the then IND about a week after posting.
It was anecdotal information, ajani. I was talking to the person and they mentioned it as though it was a fact, which is why i put the word "Asian" in brackets and stated that they seemingly assumed it was Asians but had no proof themselves of what was actually going on. I said Nigerian because the person themselves is so as well as some other peole who actually work in the BIA and do it for their families, but that again was more informational than factual.ajani wrote:Quote,
Person comes over on tourist visa (I found out that most people who do this are 'Asian'...don't know which countries...and Nigerian, some other nationalities too), people at BIA (Croydon!) start the application process for 14yr long residency.
SAKURA,
I will advise you get your facts right before posting such unsubstantiated information here. You said, you found out most people who do this are Asians, then again you said you dont know which countries and went on to mention---Nigerians.
I hardly call this obessing....woud you consider yourself obsessed about your tiff with adindas in the other thread, that seems to be going on for eons now? I posted this because some people asked me for an update before, so obviously someone on this board was interested. I also wrote this because it seemed to me some people wanted to know how such a process worked. The BIA do actually write back to peoples's queries, and I did actually ask them some other general questions.OL7MAX wrote:Not bizarre at all. If they are acting on it they may not keep you posted. If you've done what's legally obliged of you then keep the recorded delivery receipt and go on your way instead of obsessing about whether you've made a difference.I've already informed the BIA but nothing at all! Bizarre...
Saying that...
Without dates, names and locations they're not going to bother following it up. For all they know you could be some neo-nazi loony. Troublemakers and people who have just wild rumours rather than concrete facts also tend to write in anonymously. I'm not saying that you're a crank but from their perspective you may fit the profile.I sent an e-mail to Crimestoppers and the then IND about a week after posting.
What stream? I am merely pointing one person's case. I am neither leaning left nor right in my arguments, so I dunno what you're on about. Isn't this a discussion board? Just discussing, even if my arguments are wrong!vin123 wrote:dear-o-dear sakura !, there are 100s if not 1000s of better ways of committing an 'immigation crime' for staying legally, but I suspect by reading your posts is that, you are getting slightly drawn or inclined into that 'stream' ? Otherwise I don't see a point why you had to bring this into discussion at first instance.Change their names and age so that it does not match with the current tourist visa they have. i.e from 25 to 23, and from John Smith-Williams to Will Smith or something.
I don't think either BIA or Crimestoppers will be interested in just hearing story narrations, so emailing these is a just waste of time and effort.
HomeOffice has very stringent security/vetting procedures in place for all those employees handling immigration files that are electronically stored.Jeff Albright wrote: I'd imagine the data is electronically audited and any change is reported higher up with the name of modifier.
Certainly the way in the places I work. Enron saga scared a lot of people so a lot of big orgs are archiving and auditing.
But - does the IND?
Maybe we're unclear about the meaning of obsessing. Having an argument or debate or even trading insults is not obsessing.I hardly call this obessing....woud you consider yourself obsessed about your tiff with adindas
No offence intented, but I really don't think I would bring up a discussion if a person that I knew offered me ways to find Marijuana or Cannibis. Same way, the whole world knows that UK immigration system is abused so lets not add more dimensions to it !sakura wrote:What stream? I am merely pointing one person's case. I am neither leaning left nor right in my arguments, so I dunno what you're on about. Isn't this a discussion board? Just discussing, even if my arguments are wrong!
Agreed, totally, but to whom did I give information? I don't recall posting their contact details. You're more likely to get 'information' by walking into Tesco or a greasy spoon caff than what I have posted. But, yeah you're right, let me stop it!vin123 wrote:No offence intented, but I really don't think I would bring up a discussion if a person that I knew offered me ways to find Marijuana or Cannibis. Same way, the whole world knows that UK immigration system is abused so lets not add more dimensions to it !sakura wrote:What stream? I am merely pointing one person's case. I am neither leaning left nor right in my arguments, so I dunno what you're on about. Isn't this a discussion board? Just discussing, even if my arguments are wrong!
What?? I think your definition of obsession is misplaced, IMO. It is not tormenting me or stopping me from sleeping, neither is it stopping me from contributing to other discussions on this board; that is hardly obsession. I wrote I wanted a reply to my questions, not a 'confirmation of receipt"...OL7MAX wrote:Maybe we're unclear about the meaning of obsessing. Having an argument or debate or even trading insults is not obsessing.I hardly call this obessing....woud you consider yourself obsessed about your tiff with adindas
Why do you even bother about the outcome? You've made your complaint - why does it matter to you whether they reply or not... whether they act or not? Any continued interest is an obsession in my book.
Your "bizarre" statement was in relation to them not replying to your whistle blowing. The normal course is to just walk away after you've done your bit... why is confirmation of receipt so important to you? Considering the paucity of information you've provided why is it important to you that they tell you they're going to take action?
You may be 100% right about corruption but you don't really have any facts so I'd just drop it if I were you. There's really no story here and it's time to move on....