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Not only are your words harsh, they are totally wrong!!! I will explain why; but firstly...Dee, I am assuming you are a British Citizen (or at least an EU citizen?)? How can she "adjust to Uganda again" if she hasn't even mentioned that she or her child have ever been to Uganda???Siggi wrote:Donna,
Whilst I feeling very sorry for your current position, you must understand that many people have enter the UK legally and have had to make big personal and financial sacrifices to remain legal.
Your husband has fluanted the law in tree instances that you are admiting.
A not complet the form the HO had sent,
B working under a false name
C you marrying a man with illegal.
I see no reason why the HO should not remove husband back to Uganda and if you wish to join him, they are right by saying you will adjust to Uganda again.
Too right Siggi, we've paid thousands and still no PR...Siggi wrote:Donna,
Whilst I feeling very sorry for your current position, you must understand that many people have enter the UK legally and have had to make big personal and financial sacrifices to remain legal.
Your husband has fluanted the law in tree instances that you are admiting.
A not complet the form the HO had sent,
B working under a false name
C you marrying a man with illegal.
I see no reason why the HO should not remove husband back to Uganda and if you wish to join him, they are right by saying you will adjust to Uganda again.
Yea the BIA just wants all the rich international lovers to come to the UK! Funny people...and now they (might) want them to be rich, educated and over 21!Wanderer wrote:Too right Siggi, we've paid thousands and still no PR...Siggi wrote:Donna,
Whilst I feeling very sorry for your current position, you must understand that many people have enter the UK legally and have had to make big personal and financial sacrifices to remain legal.
Your husband has fluanted the law in tree instances that you are admiting.
A not complet the form the HO had sent,
B working under a false name
C you marrying a man with illegal.
I see no reason why the HO should not remove husband back to Uganda and if you wish to join him, they are right by saying you will adjust to Uganda again.
I think the OP is British though, probably never been to Uganda and it's not an ideal place live compared to UK AIUI. But love conquers all, I'd willingly go to the Siberia where my better half is from and settle, as long as I got her the -42c won't seem so bad....
However, the OP's husband has committed some pretty serious offences so I can't see anyway of regularising his leave to remain in UK from in-country. Some overstayers have done it but only where their home country is not safe, ie nowadays possibly only Iraq!
So in my opinion he has to return home, and apply for spouse visa from Uganda, if he stays here sooner of later he'll be deported making it doubly difficult to return.
Being short of cash isn't going to help, I know we can't help who we fall in love with but having a Foreign partner is expensive even if it's all legal. You need the cash full stop, the visa fees alone amount to around 2000 quid when it's all finished.
I totally agree with you and myself! Think about it, your average mail order/foriegn bride/groom is pretty useless at first to the UK economy, so make them pay for the visa and pay a lot.sakura wrote:Yea the BIA just wants all the rich international lovers to come to the UK! Funny people...and now they (might) want them to be rich, educated and over 21!Wanderer wrote:Being short of cash isn't going to help, I know we can't help who we fall in love with but having a Foreign partner is expensive even if it's all legal. You need the cash full stop, the visa fees alone amount to around 2000 quid when it's all finished.
I don't know how long it will take because it depends on how big your mountain of documentary evidence is. Search this board (esp the 'immigration for family members' section), see the documentary evidence you need for a spouse visa...it's about 10inches thick and counting! Finances are a MAJOR part of it nowadays, which is what Wanderer and I are writing about...you need to show self-sufficiency...any chance of you moving in with parents, saving up some money, getting parents to support your application, etc? Any evidence that you'll both be able to get a good job, support your child/ren, etc? Any evidence that you can manage your life together without public funds, any evidence that you won't be too poor and drain the public purse?Dee3000 wrote:Hi, thanks for your input. I am a british citizen, and have never left the uk for any reason. Myu husband did not return to Uganda when his father died, I believe because he could not return as the ho had his passport. I have never actually asked him outright. He only has one brother left in Uganda who is struggling to support himself. I am worried that his only way to appeal would be to return to Uganda. But if he does this how long would it take? and would it work? And while it is correct we knew he was an overstayer when we married we were niave nuff to believe it would not be this hard. Dumb i know, but guess that was loves rose tinted specs.
You mean you consistently spent in excess of what you earned? And why do you have no recourse to public funds?Time passed and with no recourse to public funds and poor wages our finances took some hard blows.
Why not? Lots of single mothers do. Things don't look bright for you and your husband staying together here - but you can do something about it. You could get out of debt, get your finances stable, then let him go to Uganda and apply for a spouse visa. The British government can't sort your finances out for you. This forum isn't for helping sort your finances out. Only you can do that. Then you can fight to get your man to stay. Till then you're asking the British government toI shall not be able to maintain the household finances alone
You're clutching at straws. That they haven't taken enforcement action doesn't make your husband legal.The ho knew he was still here when his student visa expired all those years ago, they knew and they ignored it.
There's no other way tho. And if you can't afford it you'll have to find a way, there is no other apart from him hanging on in UK till 2011 hoping for the 14 year illegal stay concession. And that door might be closed by then.Dee3000 wrote:Yes, but if my husband returns to Uganda, I shall not be able to maintain the household finances alone. If he is gone for many months, I may have to go bankupt, I may have to claim benefits. It has always been the case that niether one of us could maintain the houshold finances without the other. If I was forced to go bankrupt while he was gone, or claim benefits, would this effect his claim? If he was allowed to return, would the home office not expect or allow him to take up employment so as not to need recourse to public funds? Ever since my maternity leave, we have struggled with our finances, as my wages being cut in half and then stopping was more than we could recover from. Both our wages combined have only ever just covered the bills. I am very worried this may all count against my husband should he return to Uganda. We could and would and have survived without benefits but without both our incomes we can not do it. The worst thing is, that as he should not be working either, as far as the home office are concerned we have survived all this time on just my wages. Which in reality could never happen.
You can claim benefits no problem, for you and your child but not ur husband. I thinking WTC/CTC, HB and CB here. If ur on the dole I really think ur chances are nil.Dee3000 wrote:Well, first of all that is so wrong. He never has and I never have wanted him to have benefits from day one! And yes I am a uk citizen who is entitled to benefits, child tax credit etc. But I am of the understanding that I could not claim any such things with my husbands ongoing situation, for while I may be entitled to them, he is not. And by us residing at the same address he would seem to benefit from anything I claimed. I dont think we have been irresponsible with our finances at all. And the only reason it got mentioned in this discussion is cos somewhere earlier today, someone mentioned visa fee's or something that would incurr expenses. While I sympathise with the horrible situations it sounds like you have been through, I dont think that gives you the right to judge our situatation so harshly. U can never totally understand anothers problems until u have walked a mile in their shoes.
You're the one who said you were in "debt management".U can never totally understand anothers problems until u have walked a mile in their shoes.
Let me put a HO hat on. Finance problem? Not going bankrupt in case it affects the visa application. Hmmm. "The moment that guy is legal here they'll go bankrupt and there's a high chance he and his family are going to be reliant on the state!"He never has and I never have wanted him to have benefits from day one!
You couldn't be more wrong.ut I am of the understanding that I could not claim any such things ...
The government doesn't care who benefits or what you do with the money.And by us residing at the same address he would seem to benefit from anything I claimed
Visa fees are but one small drop in the ocean. Your husband's flights back and forth, his living expenses there, loss of earnings and lots more are all expenses you should be prepared for. Then if you fail you need to have some money in reserve to hire solicitors and barristers to take the case to the Imm Appeals Tribunal. As sakura pointed out, you need to show you're financially OK and that doesn't seem to be the case at present. My advice is that you take care of that first.visa fee's
I think ol7max is right, though. I do not think he was judging, simply pointing that although living in the UK is expensive, many people manage even on low wages.Dee3000 wrote:Well, first of all that is so wrong. He never has and I never have wanted him to have benefits from day one! And yes I am a uk citizen who is entitled to benefits, child tax credit etc. But I am of the understanding that I could not claim any such things with my husbands ongoing situation, for while I may be entitled to them, he is not. And by us residing at the same address he would seem to benefit from anything I claimed. I dont think we have been irresponsible with our finances at all. And the only reason it got mentioned in this discussion is cos somewhere earlier today, someone mentioned visa fee's or something that would incurr expenses. While I sympathise with the horrible situations it sounds like you have been through, I dont think that gives you the right to judge our situatation so harshly. U can never totally understand anothers problems until u have walked a mile in their shoes.
To be honest the CAB aren't experts on immigration. I'd look for an adviser here http://www.oisc.gov.uk/ there will mostly be a free one near where you live.Dee3000 wrote:it was the citizens advice that said I could not claim anything, I think this was because my husband was working illegally. While it is true I dont want to go bankrupt and affect his claim. If I did so after he was granted leave to stay, I would not want to live off the state. I only want to be able to work and have nuff to live on. The same as my husband only wants the right to work legally. I will look at all options u or anyone else is suggesting. Tomorrow we will seek legal advice once again, and go to cab. As for relatives helping, his brothers and sisters live in London and our busy supporting their own families. My mother lives with my father who she is currently caring for, as he has dementure. Space there is limited and my father is constantly in the toilet due to other health problems.
I'd get a second opinion (and ditch the first one).it was the citizens advice that said I could not claim anything, I think this was because my husband was working illegally.
If you weren't able to do it before why would anyone believe you can do it in future? Unless he's a doctor or something and a change in his immigration status will mean a LOT more money. I'm not convinced you'll have enough to live on. But my opinion is worthless - it's the Home Office you have to convince and they're even less easily impressed than I am.If I did so after he was granted leave to stay, I would not want to live off the state. I only want to be able to work and have nuff to live on.