Canadian wanting to stay in UK

[UberKrieger]

Hi, my fiancee applied for a Working Holidaymaker which was denied because the amount in her bank account was in a single deposit by myself. They believed that she accumulated the amount artificially to secure entry clearance. We have not appealed against it as we made the mistake of not mentioning that I was loaning her the money at the time.

Is there any other Visa she can apply for to stay in the UK with me?

My father owns a business and he says that he will employ her, is this possible? if so, which Visa does she need to apply for?

She has no degree qualifications although she does have skills that are suitable for the job.

[Wanderer]

Hi, my fiancee applied for a Working Holidaymaker which was denied because the amount in her bank account was in a single deposit by myself. They believed that she accumulated the amount artificially to secure entry clearance. We have not appealed against it as we made the mistake of not mentioning that I was loaning her the money at the time.

Is there any other Visa she can apply for to stay in the UK with me?

My father owns a business and he says that he will employ her, is this possible? if so, which Visa does she need to apply for?

She has no degree qualifications although she does have skills that are suitable for the job.

Err, Fiancee visa?

No chance of work permit unless she's got some really hard to get skill ur dad's business needs, and can prove it and has tried in the UK and EU first to find someone. In which case ur dad's business applies for the work permit not ur fiancee.

[UberKrieger]

She's Bi-Lingual in French and English, my dad's business needs an interpreter. Is that good enough?

[Wanderer]

She's Bi-Lingual in French and English, my dad's business needs an interpreter. Is that good enough?

Not really, mate; why can't a UK French speaker do the job or a Native English-speaking Frenchman, or woman, from the EU?

That's one of the questions the HO will ask....

Translators/Interpretors aren't on the shortlist so there's no way to by-pass this rigmarole, plus I think ur gf will need a degree or at least a professional qualification in Translating and Interpreting in order for ur dad to apply.

Why not a fiancee visa? Or Visitor Visa, she won't need a visa for a six month stay. Although best not to stay the whole six months, it will arouse suspicion, say 2/3 months should be ok if she has the funds.

[UberKrieger]

The reason we tried to get a Working HolidayMaker Visa was because she had already gotten to caution entry stamps and she wanted to spend about 2 years living with me.

Now she was denied the Working HolidayMaker Visa she cannot enter the UK at all. Even if she does have enough funds, she cannot enter.

We wanted to apply for a settlement for her once we're married but we're afraid that because she was denied the Working HolidayMaker Visa this will look suspicious and deny her the settlement.


I just wish I knew what was best..

[Wanderer]

The reason we tried to get a Working HolidayMaker Visa was because she had already gotten to caution entry stamps and she wanted to spend about 2 years living with me.

Now she was denied the Working HolidayMaker Visa she cannot enter the UK at all. Even if she does have enough funds, she cannot enter.

We wanted to apply for a settlement for her once we're married but we're afraid that because she was denied the Working HolidayMaker Visa this will look suspicious and deny her the settlement.


I just wish I knew what was best..

None of this would be a reason to deny a settlement visa. Might make it necessary to make a more water-tight application but very few settlement visas are denied from North America provided u've got income to support the both of you and somewhere to live.

I suggest you apply for a fiancee visa or better still, marry her there or in other country and apply for a spouse visa. Dicking around applying for inappropriate visas left right and centre is only gonna cost you money and more importantly, prolong your time apart.

Doing this way is really the only realistic chance you have, and provided you pass the income and accommodation tests, can show it's not a marriage of convenience it's as near as certainty as it's ever gonna be.

This is an expensive game - u need time and money to be able to forge a meaningful relationship on the international stage, I dunno how much face time you've had but it's never enough, and you might feel marriage too much of a leap of faith. In which case you should wait and visit her as much as possible before jumping in the deep and murky waters that surround international dating....

[UberKrieger]

Our plan evolved into this;

1 - We get legally married in Canada, there will be a small ceremony as we plan to have a big one later when we can afford it.

2 - I then go back to the UK where I work full-time for 3-4 Months and move into a rented accomodation, we maintain contact via internet/phone.

3 - I return to Canada with supporting accomodation documents and bank statements to prove my earnings etc.

4 - We then go for an interview at the British High Commission Toronto and submit our supporting documents.

I understand that it takes a week for a straightforward application to be processed. Do we leave our documents with them whilst they're processed? Or can we know if the Visa is approved the same day we submit our documents?

I appreciate the help, this is something i've thought over and over and it's the best course of action

[travellerboy]

It's a bit more complicated than quickly getting married and then getting the spouse visa etc. If your partner has been refused an Entry Clearance (Working Holiday), she'll already be on the Immigration warning index. Secondly, because of the EC refusal and then a sudden marriage, the closeness of your relationship will probably be tested. As long as you've known each other for a while, you shouldn't have too many problems!

[Wanderer]

It's a bit more complicated than quickly getting married and then getting the spouse visa etc. If your partner has been refused an Entry Clearance (Working Holiday), she'll already be on the Immigration warning index. Secondly, because of the EC refusal and then a sudden marriage, the closeness of your relationship will probably be tested. As long as you've known each other for a while, you shouldn't have too many problems!

And lots of proof of relationship, banks statements, payslips, photos, phone records, cover all bases....

[UberKrieger]

I have the following supporting documents;

Finance - Hers and mine Bank Statements covering the last 3 months of income, Letter from my Employer confirming work and salary, Proof of joint savings accounts,

Identification - Passports, Drivers License, Birth Certificate,

Relationship - Pictures together, Joint financial commitments, letters from friends/family describing our relationship, Cards, Letter of Sponsorship from me, my father & my mother, wedding ring receipts, Marriage Certificate

House - Paid Utility Bills, Rental Agreement, Pictures of Apartment, Plan of Apartment

If I go for an interview in Ottawa, will this Visa be processed the same day? If not, how long?

[Wanderer]

I have the following supporting documents;

Finance - Hers and mine Bank Statements covering the last 3 months of income, Letter from my Employer confirming work and salary, Proof of joint savings accounts,

Identification - Passports, Drivers License, Birth Certificate,

Relationship - Pictures together, Joint financial commitments, letters from friends/family describing our relationship, Cards, Letter of Sponsorship from me, my father & my mother, wedding ring receipts, Marriage Certificate

House - Paid Utility Bills, Rental Agreement, Pictures of Apartment, Plan of Apartment

If I go for an interview in Ottawa, will this Visa be processed the same day? If not, how long?

You don't go for interview, she does. You can be there but I don't think u'll be allowed in the interview.

Also I would doubt it will be a same-day process, especially given her poor immigration history. I'd go for six months bank statements/payslips and include records of telephone conversations etc. You really need to go overboard with this. Also include a letter from the landlord saying it's ok for her to live there.

[darksquid]

I just wanted to add a bit of encouragement!

I personally know of three couples who were in similar situations as yourself. The foreign partners had all been denied entry (one was denied TWICE!), and all successfully obtained spouse or fiancee visas later on.

Your gf's denials should not prevent her from obtaining a spouse visa, but as other have said, it might add a bit of time to the process. Marry her, make a watertight application, and you shouldn't have a problem.

[UberKrieger]

Thanks alot, i've been very stressed about this over the last few days. Nice to have some encouragement