Self sufficient EU national claimed public fund

[XABI]

Hi guys

Being partner of an EU national and Eu national exercising treaty right through non EU partner's work in the UK and both have CSI

But by exercising treaty right in this way makes the EU national a self sufficient person where it is been specified they should not be burden on public funds by UKBA . And what if they receive some public benefit like disability living allowance and council housing accommodation during qualifying period. And they think they have rights based on the information: Public funds that can be claimed due to exceptions, exceptions because of a person’s nationality,Agreements between UK, the European Union and other countries that available in the UKBA;

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary

[sheraz7]

self sufficiency on public funds cannot be claimed although EU national workers/self employed can claim public funds.

[XABI]

self sufficiency on public funds cannot be claimed although EU national workers/self employed can claim public funds.

My claim was not about EU national was about non EU national (Algerian,Turkish, Moroccan) read it out again including the link please.

[sheraz7]

Then, are you sure that you are in correct forum as anything relates to your ("on EU national) activities are irrelevant to EEA route application.

[XABI]

Then, are you sure that you are in correct forum as anything relates to your ("on EU national) activities are irrelevant to EEA route application.

What I am saying here is the circle that turns the rights around that is residence card gives right to those nationals to stay legal and right to work in the uk and because of their countries agreement with UK and EU gives them the right to claim those funds as indicated in the link if those national have received such public under exceptions they wont be effected in case they apply for residence permit

Because EU national relies on Non-EU nationals partner income "partner" who is from this specific countries that have such agreement with UK and EU.

[sheraz7]

refers to forum called claiming benefits to which your query relate. There write your circumstances in detail then someone can answer.

[XABI]

refers to forum called claiming benefits to which your query relate. There write your circumstances in detail then someone can answer.

My question is about EEA application in situation like this would one qualifies for permanent residence.

[askmeplz82]

refers to forum called claiming benefits to which your query relate. There write your circumstances in detail then someone can answer.

My question is about EEA application in situation like this would one qualifies for permanent residence.

EEA nationals who are residing in the UK should generally be able to support themselves without help from public funds. EEA nationals who are exercising Treaty rights in the UK as workers, self employed persons or work seekers are able to claim public funds without their right

of residence being affected.



http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary

[Obie]

Also see:

Brey ( Entitlement of Self Sufficient to Public Fund)

[Amber]

Hi Guys
The paragraph bellow is from European Casework Instructions.

For the purpose of these instructions public funds means:

• Income Support and income based Job Seekers Allowance (JSA)(IB);

• housing and homelessness assistance;

• Housing and Council Tax Benefit;

• Working families' Tax Credit;

• A social fund payment;

• Child benefit; or

• Any disability allowance.

These are all income-related benefits. Being in receipt of one of these benefits may affect a
person's right of residence. Contributory benefits are not considered as public funds and for the purpose of these instructions Social Housing is not to be regarded as a public fund.



Just I want know about those two things;

for the purpose of these instructions Social Housing is not to be regarded as a public fund

• housing and homelessness assistance;

here what is the difference between Social Housing and housing and homelessness assistance.[/i][/u]

[XABI]

Hi Guys

Sorry back to old thread my mistake.
The paragraph bellow is from European Casework Instructions.

For the purpose of these instructions public funds means:

• Income Support and income based Job Seekers Allowance (JSA)(IB);

• housing and homelessness assistance;

• Housing and Council Tax Benefit;

• Working families' Tax Credit;

• A social fund payment;

• Child benefit; or

• Any disability allowance.

These are all income-related benefits. Being in receipt of one of these benefits may affect a
person's right of residence. Contributory benefits are not considered as public funds and for the purpose of these instructions Social Housing is not to be regarded as a public fund.



Just I want know about those two things;

for the purpose of these instructions Social Housing is not to be regarded as a public fund

• housing and homelessness assistance;

here what is the difference between Social Housing and housing and homelessness assistance.[/i][/u]

[sublime688]

Housing and Homelessness assistance has to do with things like, homeless support and advice, provision of temporary homeless accommodation such as hostels or other temp accommodation etc which are publicly funded, and most often the government funds these homelessness services via something called Supporting People Fund

[XABI]

Housing and Homelessness assistance has to do with things like, homeless support and advice, provision of temporary homeless accommodation such as hostels or other temp accommodation etc which are publicly funded, and most often the government funds these homelessness services via something called Supporting People Fund

Hi sublime688

Thanks for the answer I am just trying to find out if a council flat that provided by council in that context count as Housing and Homelessness assistance or social housing.Because we have been given a council flat as my EU national was self sufficient

[XABI]

Housing and Homelessness assistance has to do with things like, homeless support and advice, provision of temporary homeless accommodation such as hostels or other temp accommodation etc which are publicly funded, and most often the government funds these homelessness services via something called Supporting People Fund

Hi sublime688

Thanks for the answer I am just trying to find out if a council flat that provided by council in that context count as Housing and Homelessness assistance or social housing.Because we have been given a council flat as my EU national was self sufficient

[Jambo]

Because we have been given a council flat as my EU national was self sufficient

Doesn't the last sentence contradict itself? Surely you have been offered a council flat as you can't maintain yourself based on your current circumstances.

[XABI]

Because we have been given a council flat as my EU national was self sufficient

Doesn't the last sentence contradict itself? Surely you have been offered a council flat as you can't maintain yourself based on your current circumstances.

Jumbo
The question is weather council Flat/House is a social house or not based on this, even HO is indicating especially in the immigration case instruction it should not be confused, I think your opinion here as above is irrelevant.

I'd like to repeat the question, is council flat/house is a social housing?

[Jambo]

Yes.

[EUsmileWEallsmile]

OP, on what basis was the Eu national self-sufficient?

[XABI]

OP, on what basis was the Eu national self-sufficient?

Well the reason was Eu was sick for period of time and when the application made to local authority all income(none EU was working and EU spouse was relaying on this income, that is the self suf.) was informed and application was approved and after not for long we were placed in council flat.

[Obie]

The question boils down to whether or not the person poses an unreasonable burden on the UK's resources or not.

It is unlikely living in a social housing will.

Social Housing is not means-tested as far as i know. All british citizens are entitled to apply. If they meet the criteria, i supposed they will be put on priority.