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get the UK visa before travel because UK do not accept EU law , if she travel without the visa to UK and if she is stopped by immigration she will be refused entry and it will make her history bad with UK.jeupsy wrote:Just a word of warning that the UK (for a change ) think they are special and don't apply EU laws about visa free entry with a stamp 4 EUFAM. She will need a UK visa or "family permit". It will be free and easy to get though.
You stepson will definitely also need a visa for the UK. For other EU countries I am not sure. Maybe it could be argued that as family member of a stamp 4 EUFAM holder directive 2004/38/EC extends to him for visa free entry; but you really should email the embassy of your country of destination first to ask and have a written confirmation.
It is the same liabilities that apply to all carrier crossing international borders, I would not expect that rail/sail route will be less stringent in enforcing these rules. Border crossing within the CTA is much less of a hassle and you might like to know, I travelled on a bus from Oldham to Dublin, and nobody asked me for visa or the equivalent of such before boarding, on the times that I have plied this route, I have encountered immigration checks at Holyhead (UKBA).Latintraveller wrote:Therefore in practice would I be right in guessing that if we attempt to travel by air to the UK without a FP (but with EU4FAM, marriage cert etc) there is a high chance of being turned away by the carrier. If though we travel by sea (probably on a rail & sail ticket) there is a much lower chance of the carrier turning us away.