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More dosh required than that. I reckon 2-3000 quid esp with ILR being 750 quid for the postal app.Branis wrote:Current fees for the British Naturalisation are absolutely outrageous. I don't know exactly why this is so expensive? What on earth does the Home Office cashier think? If immigrants had this sort of money to spare do you think they'd come to Britain in the first place? A few months ago the fees were about £200 and even this is excessive, then it went up to £575, but now the fees are staggering £665! I am not being funny but how can administration fees amount to so much or should we call this a pure 'rip off'?
Besides, what is being bought here for this money anyway?
Can anyone enlighten me? Your views are greatly appreciated
You think?? There are too many posts of bitter spouses who don't want to sign off on ILR for their spouse or want to know how long they have to wait before ditching the spouse they sponsored.Wanderer wrote: More dosh required than that. I reckon 2-3000 quid esp with ILR being 750 quid for the postal app.
Supply and demand dood - Her Majesty's Gov. has realised that folks will pay to migrate here and pay well and charges accordingly. Market forces.
Still, the cost keeps out the riff-raff and puts off the Mail Order Bride seekers, don'cha know Old Boy...
Yeah we have had a few lately haven't we! I think they most likely paid the spouse/fiancee fee two years ago when it was cheaper, now the ILR big fee is looming and maybe the wife/husband isn't worth it!SYH wrote:You think?? There are too many posts of bitter spouses who don't want to sign off on ILR for their spouse or want to know how long they have to wait before ditching the spouse they sponsored.Wanderer wrote: More dosh required than that. I reckon 2-3000 quid esp with ILR being 750 quid for the postal app.
Supply and demand dood - Her Majesty's Gov. has realised that folks will pay to migrate here and pay well and charges accordingly. Market forces.
Still, the cost keeps out the riff-raff and puts off the Mail Order Bride seekers, don'cha know Old Boy...
JAJ, from this and other posts of yours, it appears that you are of the belief that there is no practical ceiling on what the Home Office may charge for naturalisation. I find this to be an unworkable stance, as there are strong policy arguments against that from the perspective of integration, commitment and inclusion--all of which I take extremely seriously. These arguments are in addition to those surrounding the cynical use of fees as a cash generator by whatever government is in power.JAJ wrote:How much is British citizenship worth?
That, no doubt, varies from person to person: to some people it is worth nothing or not a great deal, to others an inestimable amount.JAJ wrote:How much is British citizenship worth?
Exactly so isn't that a good enough reason to question goverments fees and their actions in general. I don't understand why you continualy put yourself down. You like everyone else have the right to be on earth regardless of where the earth is.sashank wrote:First of all we immigrants have no say on the fee set by government because ,
1. We choose this country to be for better life for ourself and for our children therefore we got to sacrifice one off payment.
I'm sorry what benefit is that exactly?? A sticker in your passport whihc you forget about after a week. ( Of course there are exeptional cases I'll give you that)2. The benefit we get after getting respective status such as ILR or Naturalised British Citizen.
Mate you are far too harsh on yourself.If I disagree with this then there are doors open for all of us to go back to our respective countries and settle there rather than in the UK and moaning about.
So if someone told you to go and jump into the Thames you'd do itI choose to be in this country so I do not have any complaints about it. I would accept all the charges until I afford to pay for it.
They are also going to loose a lot of money after the smoking ban goes up and smokers get miserable and quit smoking. Maybe we can make up for that deficit as well...I think they are trying to fund the restructuring of the HO (with the creation of the Ministry of Justice, BIA etc) with money generated through visa/naturalisation fees. Also there must have been a substantial drop in their visa takings after most of Eastern Europe joined the EU so they have to make good the shortfall somewhere..
Mini wrote:They are also going to loose a lot of money after the smoking ban goes up and smokers get miserable and quit smoking. Maybe we can make up for that deficit as well...I think they are trying to fund the restructuring of the HO (with the creation of the Ministry of Justice, BIA etc) with money generated through visa/naturalisation fees. Also there must have been a substantial drop in their visa takings after most of Eastern Europe joined the EU so they have to make good the shortfall somewhere..
The NHS is in a deep pit too. Maybe we can help there as wel ???
All countries, governments and public sector are the same. One needs to protest if one is being treated unfairly irrespective of where one is. That is what belonging is.First of all we immigrants have no say on the fee set by government because ,
1. We choose this country to be for better life for ourself and for our children therefore we got to sacrifice one off payment.
2. The benefit we get after getting respective status such as ILR or Naturalised British Citizen.
If we disagree with this then there are doors open for all of us to go back to our respective countries and settle there rather than in the UK and moaning about.
I choose to be in this country so I do not have any complaints about it. I would accept all the charges until I afford to pay for it.
Its for sure that there are some reason why they are increasing fees otherwise they wouldnot because boys setting these fees are I think responsible, they know what they are doing and even they know what sort of criticism they will face should they fail to address the issue.
For what it's worth, I am of the view that the naturalisation fees are too high and will need to be reviewed at some stage. For precisely the reasons that you mention. In particular, long standing migrants who are elderly and on low incomes, or those admitted on humanitarian grounds, cannot be expected to afford the fees as they stand.RobinLondon wrote: JAJ, from this and other posts of yours, it appears that you are of the belief that there is no practical ceiling on what the Home Office may charge for naturalisation. I find this to be an unworkable stance, as there are strong policy arguments against that from the perspective of integration, commitment and inclusion--all of which I take extremely seriously. These arguments are in addition to those surrounding the cynical use of fees as a cash generator by whatever government is in power.
That above is true in some cases but not all. Some 'skilled' migrants until they obtain ILR would be paid almost nothing by their employers for starters due to WP sponsorship. Bear in mind that, if these migrants also have families, then the fees also become astronomical as such.That said, I don't see why any "skilled" migrant (most of those on these forums) should have difficulty affording the existing fees.
Work permits are not supposed to be used for low-skill employment. And they are definitely not supposed to be used to undercut the wages of skilled British citizens and residents.jes2jes wrote: That above is true in some cases but not all. Some 'skilled' migrants until they obtain ILR would be paid almost nothing by their employers for starters due to WP sponsorship.
When did you make the application for 276ADE? When did you appeal to FT UT, etc?abiswaslaw wrote:variation extension application under 276ade was refused, FT UT JR permission refused, so did COA on 22/05/2015.