Points Achieved by Successful HSMP Candidates

aromated · Post by **aromated** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 1:58 pm

Hi Everybody
I want to develop this post so that everybody can gain from it. The aim is to display in deatail the points awarded to all HSMP candidates by Home Office, UK. For this I need active participation of all candidates. So I request all such candidates to come forward and share their points in detail, as awarded by HSMP team, with us.

Regards

Aromated

Novice · Post by **Novice** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 6:40 pm

Hi Aromated,

Not sure how this helps, but anyway...

I got 30 points for being a PhD, 25 points for graduate level work experience (3 years, is it? I had 5) and 10 points for the fact that my spouse has a degree (she has MsC, but they require just BsC). So I am quite glad I managed to sneak in while Home Office has the lower threshold of 65, which is set to go back to 75 soon. I also claimed points for special achievements, being 95% certain I won't get those. I figured out that would make the caseworker's life easier - he can reject something in my application (and feel like he doesn't need to pick on anything else), and I can still go through!

Novice

aromated · Post by **aromated** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 2:15 am

Hi Novice,
Its nice hearing from a first person about his qualification in this post. I am thankful to u. I submitted my case in july with PhD and 10 years of working experience. Claiming points for significant achievements and of spouse qualification (M.Sc). Waiting patiently for my turn.
After knowing about the qualification of successful candidates it gives a ray of hope to all those who r still in the queue.

Regards

Aromated

SBS · Post by **SBS** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 3:30 am

Hi,

I submitted my application in May 1st week and waiting for reply soon.
I claimed 25 points for MEng degree, 35 point for my working ecperience (7 years including 2 year senior level), 10 points for spouse degree & 15 points for significant achievements (total 85). I wll let you know how much i gained once i get the reply from HO.

Regards

SBS · Post by **SBS** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 3:36 am

Hi,

I submitted my application in May 1st week and waiting for reply soon.
I claimed 25 points for MEng degree, 35 point for my working ecperience (7 years including 2 year senior level), 10 points for spouse degree & 15 points for significant achievements (total 85). I wll let you know how much i gained once i get the reply from HO.

Regards,

SBS.

aromated · Post by **aromated** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:27 am

Hi SBS
thanks for giving us information about u. I appeal to all memebers on this forum to share the points claimed by them. I t will keep our hopes alive apart from giving us a fair degree of reliability regarding the evaluation system adopted by HSMP.

Regards
Aromated

anishpadela · Post by **anishpadela** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:42 am

Hi...

I have claimed 80 points in total.
5 for under 28.
25 for Masters or equivalent - Have B.Sc. (3 years) + PGBDM (2 years)
50 for Experience - Have 4 years senior level exp + 1 year at graduate level

But I have doubt if they will consider my Post Graduate Dipolma in Business Management (PGBDM) for 25 points...

I have applied in mid of May so expecting reply by next month...hopefully.

Can anybody share their experience of getting 25 points for Post Graduate Diploma in any field?

Anis

VP · Post by VP » Wed Oct 06, 2004 11:10 am

Hi...

I also claimed 80 points in total.
5 for under 28.

15 for Masters or equivalent - done b.com

50 for Experience - Have 3 years senior level exp + 2 year at graduate
level

10 points for spouse points

But I doubt that they will give me the spouse points as i got married before 1 and half years only

VP

aromated · Post by **aromated** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:01 pm

Hi Anishpadela
Thanks for replying. U may get 25 points or may be 15 depending on ur luck, though I pray for 25 points. But I am happy that u r optimistic. Keep in touch.

Good Luck

aromated · Post by **aromated** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:11 pm

Hi VP
Thanks for replying. But why u r seeing only 15 points for ur masters and secondly if u have submitted all the required documents showing ur marriage like marriage certificate, bills etc then u will definitely get 10 points for ur spouse qualification.
Be in touch.
Good Luck

Aromated

aromated · Post by **aromated** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:13 pm

Hi Everybody
Now the first sample of excel sheet is ready. and I hope that more will join us so that maximum benefit of this post can be taken.

Name Edu. Experience Achievements Salary Spouse Edu Age

Novice PhD
30 25 15 10
SBS M.Eng
25 35 15 10

Anishpadela PGDBM
25/15 50 5

VP 15 50 10 5

kumar78 · Post by **kumar78** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 2:08 pm

Education 3 years BSc + 2 Year MSc (25 Claimed) - I think they will give me 15
Experience 4.5 Year with 1.5 Senior Level (50 Pts Claimed)
Under 28 (5 Pts)
Salary (25 Pts)

Total Claimed: 105

MWazir · Post by **MWazir** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 2:43 pm

I have claimed for the following

Under 28 - 5 points
Bachelor's degree - 15 points
5 years experience with 2 years in a senior position - 50 points
Earnings in the UK, Income Band 2 - 35 points

Total points claimed = 105
HSMP Reference: 0260**

aromated · Post by **aromated** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 3:15 pm

Hi Everybody
Here is the updated list

Name Edu. Experience Achievements Salary Spouse Edu Age

Novice PhD
30 25 15 10
SBS M.Eng
25 35 15 10

Anishpadela PGDBM
25/15 50 5

VP 15 50 10 5

kumar78 M.Sc
25 50 25 5

Mwazir Bachelor
15 50 35 5

dipo omotoso · Post by **dipo omotoso** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:37 pm

Hi Novice,

Just submitted my application lask week precisely 30th Sept.

My scores are as follows:
Education- B.SC in Chemistry, PGD in Management-15 points
Working Experience- 9 years which 2 years is senior level-35 points
Spouse Education- B.SC in Food Science & Technology-10 points
Earnings-25 points
Achievements-zero

Total-85 points

What do you feel?

Regards

Dipson

amberw · Post by **amberw** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:07 pm

Hello aromated!
I submitted my application on 28th of April(still waiting).
I claimed following points:
age(under 28): 5
education(M.sc. Computers Sciences): 25
experience(2 years graduate level):25
significant achievement(Gold Medal in Masters):15
spouse(Masters degree):10
my degree is from pakistan, which is equalent to Bsc in uk. So I think they will give only 15 points in education.

aromated · Post by **aromated** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:42 am

Hi Amber
Thanks for increasing the profile of this post. Though u r bound to get positive letter from HSMP team but I thimk that if ur post graduation clealr specifies the word Masters then u will definitely get 25 points for ur qualification. Be in touch throgh e-mail as well. Good luck.

Regards
Aromated

aromated · Post by **aromated** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:55 am

Hi Everybody
Here is the new list

Name -- Edu. --Experience-- Achievements-- Salary-- Sp Edu-- Age

Novice PhD
30--------25-------------15-------------------------10---------
SBS M.Eng
25--------35-------------15-------------------------10---------

Anishpadela-PGDBM
25/15----50---------------------------------------------------5

VP 15--------50-----------------------------------------10-------5

kumar78 M.Sc
25--------50--------------------------------25----------------5

Mwazir Bachelor
15--------50--------------------------------35----------------5

Amber 25--------25--------------15------------------------10-------5

Dipo omotoso Bachelor
15--------35--------------------------------25------10---------

SBS · Post by **SBS** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 2:31 am

Hi amber,

Thanks for your details. Can you let us know the first 4 degit of your ref. no?

Regards

goodluck · Post by **goodluck** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:40 pm

Hi all,

My application was under 28

Score:

Education - MSc from U.K
25 points
2 years graduate level Work Experience in U.K
25 points
Spouse Qualification - MSc from U.K
10 points

Total Score: 65

Goodluck

aromated · Post by **aromated** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 1:07 pm

Hi goodluck
Thanks for providing information about u.
So the new update is---

Name -- Edu. --Experience-- Achievements-- Salary-- Sp Edu-- Age

Novice PhD
30--------25-------------15-------------------------10---------
SBS M.Eng
25--------35-------------15-------------------------10---------

Anishpadela-PGDBM
25/15----50---------------------------------------------------5

VP 15--------50-----------------------------------------10-------5

kumar78 M.Sc
25--------50--------------------------------25----------------5

Mwazir Bachelor
15--------50--------------------------------35----------------5

Amber 25--------25--------------15------------------------10-------5

Dipo omotoso Bachelor
15--------35--------------------------------25------10---------

goodluck

25--------25-----------------------------------------10

hcho · Post by **hcho** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 2:00 pm

Hi there,

I can't see any point in collecting this data. It is useless because:
1)Successful candidates do not really know how many points they get, because Home Office sends a letter that indicates success but no breakdown of points. Break down of points is only provided within a refusal letter. There is no possibility of collecting exact data.
2)Knowing the distribution of points will not serve anyone as there is no golden points. Do you add up to 65? Then that's it! It does not matter from which section you get the points.

Sorry if I sound discouraging.
Regards

anishpadela · Post by **anishpadela** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 2:52 pm

Hi Hcho

Well you are not discouraging but your point is valid.
If this data can not be used for any constructive purpose whats the use of collection....
What I think that the data of approved application with this bifurcation can be useful. I understand HO does not give any details with approval but definately the approval nod itself can throw some light on their evaluation process. So far we have data for those who have just applied but waiting for decision. So this can be useful later on say about 3 months down the line...or this can be more consolidated information if some successful candidates do share their applications with points claimed and docs submitted for the support of claims... I am just trying to put this topic in some useful direction, correct me if I am wrong...

Anis

bugmaster · Post by **bugmaster** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:01 pm

After reading the posts I found one useful reason.
It gives us something to do and think about while waiting - ie just a way to keep us waiting without going crazy eventually.

aromated · Post by **aromated** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:10 pm

Hi hcho
I am happy for the critical point raised by u. In my first post I emphasised that this post will give us a fair degree of reliability about the evaluation process after sharing the views of successful candidates. So far now two successful candidates namely novice and goodluck have shared their points as claimed by them and awrded to them by HSMP. Remember, sharing clarifies many doubts and this board was developed with this intention as well. Such type of data gives u a broader analysis of the overall scenario and many other things...... So, kindly analuse this post more deeply.

Regards
Aromated

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