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Ok ... So let's try a 'what if'.Obie wrote:MPH80 that may be a good idea, but that is certainly not on Mrs May's agenda at present. All that matters is how much UKIP votes she could muster.
38 wrote:(ix) He is unfit to fly (paragraph 6.52).
And indeed:45 wrote:(i) IM may well be unfit to be detained in a detention centre. However he is not unfit to be detained in hospital. This in my judgment explains the medical record entries of 6 October 2013 and 10 October 2013. Ms Hirst submits that it is not open to the Defendant to say that IM can render his detention lawful by being detained somewhere else. In my judgment that is wrong. His detention is lawful. He is fit for detention in hospital. He refuses to go there. That is his decision. He does not lack the capacity to make that decision.
It is worth noting that the judge makes no comment on his fitness to travel but quotes the report from medical justice as a relevant point.In short the Defendant submits that IM is refusing hospitalisation with capacity to do so and therefore this is a consequence of his own decision. The Defendant is fully prepared to take IM to hospital.
The judge is probably not a medical doctor. It's unlikely that he would presume to comment on a medical opinion without further medical advice.MPH80 wrote:It is worth noting that the judge makes no comment on his fitness to travel but quotes the report from medical justice as a relevant point.
The roots of democracy are fundamentally grounded in mutual respect, personal responsibility, and social accountability. Democracy is also about giving each person a dignified voice in the decision-making processes in those institutions that guide and regulate our lives. We know far too little about this case to comment fully. Our moral obligation as fellow human beings is to one another. Time is of essence and this guy is nearing death. He is in a very fragile mental state of mind so medical assistance is what he needs rather than being embroiled in a game of political football. This man's life is far more important than fears of setting precedentsouflak1 wrote:Still surprised that Nigeria went along with this.
Nevertheless, I believe it supports a dangerous precedent if we start allowing people to stay on the basis of hunger strikes. It puts those people in great harm, with the danger of dying, and it puts even more burden on the UK which already has a system that is over stressed as it is.
The only humane action, indeed the only moral and ethical action, is to nip this in this tactic in the bud before it becomes a catastrophe on a massive scale with hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people a year going on hunger strike to avoid deportation. If any of you truly care about the value and condition of human life, then you should support getting this man back to his home country as soon as possible.
Perhaps stopping reading such odious articles from newspapers such as the daily mailUKBA HUNTER wrote:Let the same ethnicity people to write in favor of this happening. But look the following and ask yourself that should we show any more mercy:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... icide.html
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/matth ... raudsters/
http://nigeriastandardnewspaper.com/ng/ ... th-128-bad quality-identities-sing-in-uk-jaildefraud-banks-to-636000-dupes-mortgage-lenders-govt-agencies-involves-in-series-of-sc/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ities.html
He must be sent back in Nigerian national aircraft in the presence of Nigerian authorities/doctors/charity organists to safe area within the Nigeria. And the UK authorities must sue the Nigerian government for not letting in their plane and must sue for the charges incurring afterwards.
these are only few ones which i quoted because i donot want to finish alone the whole page. The same realities news also published in newspapers than daily mail.Believe2013 wrote:Perhaps stopping reading such odious articles from newspapers such as the daily mailUKBA HUNTER wrote:Let the same ethnicity people to write in favor of this happening. But look the following and ask yourself that should we show any more mercy:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... icide.html
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/matth ... raudsters/
http://nigeriastandardnewspaper.com/ng/ ... th-128-bad quality-identities-sing-in-uk-jaildefraud-banks-to-636000-dupes-mortgage-lenders-govt-agencies-involves-in-series-of-sc/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ities.html
He must be sent back in Nigerian national aircraft in the presence of Nigerian authorities/doctors/charity organists to safe area within the Nigeria. And the UK authorities must sue the Nigerian government for not letting in their plane and must sue for the charges incurring afterwards.
But if you read the judgement you'll find he's refusing the medical treatment that would help him.Believe2013 wrote:The roots of democracy are fundamentally grounded in mutual respect, personal responsibility, and social accountability. Democracy is also about giving each person a dignified voice in the decision-making processes in those institutions that guide and regulate our lives. We know far too little about this case to comment fully. Our moral obligation as fellow human beings is to one another. Time is of essence and this guy is nearing death. He is in a very fragile mental state of mind so medical assistance is what he needs rather than being embroiled in a game of political football. This man's life is far more important than fears of setting precedentsouflak1 wrote:Still surprised that Nigeria went along with this.
Nevertheless, I believe it supports a dangerous precedent if we start allowing people to stay on the basis of hunger strikes. It puts those people in great harm, with the danger of dying, and it puts even more burden on the UK which already has a system that is over stressed as it is.
The only humane action, indeed the only moral and ethical action, is to nip this in this tactic in the bud before it becomes a catastrophe on a massive scale with hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people a year going on hunger strike to avoid deportation. If any of you truly care about the value and condition of human life, then you should support getting this man back to his home country as soon as possible.