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ball1333 wrote:"Govt planned to stop all HSMPin next few months"
Please provide some evidence to support this statement.
gordon wrote:The HSMP application process seems to place a lot of weight on earnings, but with a very high premium on PhDs otherwise (not so much on a master's, what with the points being only 5 more than a bachelor's degree). G
daisy_ktm wrote:
Yes , Most of agencies now will ask if HSMP if its they will not be considered for most of Contract or Perm Jobs. I think all employers instructs these agencies to do so....Its a Pity..
Hi Pantiema, there's been some quote level confusion. daisy_ktm wrote the phrase in my inverted commas and I was asking daisy_ktm to provide evidence. I have no idea where daisy_ktm got the information.pantaiema wrote:ball1333
WHere did ypu get this information from. I have not read anyone in this forum have written about this in this forum but you.
Probably what you mean is it will be replace by the new tier system ?
Pantaiema
ball1333 wrote:"Govt planned to stop all HSMPin next few months"
Please provide some evidence to support this statement.
gordon wrote:Thank you, Pantaiema, for your sneering admonition, 'we do math':
If you assume that it takes 3-4 years to finish a PhD, and each postgraduate year is 5 points, then the suitable point assignment would be 15-20 points above the bachelor's degree, since the (average) 4 years already includes the master's degree leading into the PhD. Hence 50 points, not 55. You've double-counted.
However, where do you get the idea that a master's degree is necessarily one year? Plenty of master's level degree programs in the UK are of two years' duration (and of course, an overseas perspective in this vein could scarcely be come amiss). Consider, for instance, that MBA, MPP, MA, MSc, MFA programs in the US are nearly always two-year programs; MDiv is three-years. In the UK, MLitt and MPhil programs can often be two-year programs.
So my parenthetical comment pointed to the potential undervaluation of the master's degree, in and of itself. It can merely be something to think about. But on no account was it a comment that deserved the dismissive and deeply disrespectful 'Do your math' opening.
ball1333 wrote:Hi Pantiema, there's been some quote level confusion. daisy_ktm wrote the phrase in my inverted commas and I was asking daisy_ktm to provide evidence. I have no idea where daisy_ktm got the information.pantaiema wrote:ball1333
WHere did ypu get this information from. I have not read anyone in this forum have written about this in this forum but you.
Probably what you mean is it will be replace by the new tier system ?
Pantaiema
ball1333 wrote:"Govt planned to stop all HSMPin next few months"
Please provide some evidence to support this statement.
daisy_ktm wrote:Hi All,
I thought I share my HSMP experience with this board which might help other HSMP seekers to think twice before jumping..
SYH wrote:I used to be a stickler about spelling because I am a top speller and highly versed in the correct usage of grammer by US standards. However, I found that the UK spells words differently and was taking my version of spelling as an indication of some deficiency on my part even though I have diplomas from top institutions. Then, my work took me to Holland and Scandanivia where they completely spell words funny from my point of view and their mastery of English is awesome, despite their funky spelling of English. Anyone whose native language is not English has my admiration and I believe they are extremely bright and I won't discount them because of poor spelling.
I admire anyone who can speak more than 1 language. However we're talking a professional resume here, for a highly paid job. You have to be professional in any way possible.SYH wrote:Anyone whose native language is not English has my admiration and I believe they are extremely bright and I won't discount them because of poor spelling.
PounceQuick wrote:
Anyway, I'm not from UK and don't have a British accent, neither do I have British experience nor is English my first language. However I have a completely different experience from you. Didn't have problem finding a good job or flat or other things.
I suspect you have a problem adjusting with the style of interview here in UK, or perhaps your CV style. For other HSMP aspirant, I suggest having a look on UK job boards about CV & interview advice. Speak clearly and definitely no spelling mistakes on your CV.
HTH
Agreed and agreed. Great posts by ball & pouncequick.ball1333 wrote: All I'm saying is think about it from the employer's perspective before crying beloved or discrimination. If you're on the payroll, you represent the employer. If a customer can't understand you or you misunderstand a work order, the employer looks bad in the eyes of the customer. Every company's success depends on its reputation. A company seeks to improve or at least maintain its reputation with every staffing decision. Hiring decisions are not judgments of your character or your capability. Hiring decisions are based on the employer's perception of whether you will add value to their organisation right now.
Have you read up on the new rules? Only tier one will be 'highly skilled', and unless you have a phd AND a specialty (GPs will not make it), then you will probably not fall under this category. It's likely that we will be lumped in with work permit visa holders at tiers 2 and 3.topoftheworld wrote: High Skilled" migrants should be able to live up to the name.