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So what exactly are you complaining about? You started off talking about visitor visas - is that still the case or have you moved on?Russia wrote: This board has many well-intentioned individuals offering practical advice and guidance - so if you're a British citizen married to a foreigner, and don't object to supplying the British government with 10 pages of personal information, a hefty fee which can, depending on the application amount to over 400euros, and you are prepared to be hugely inconvenienced by having to travel to your spouse's country of residence then stay there for as long as the application can take to process (which can be several months in some cases) - then maybe you are indeed docile and submissive enough to be led by the nose through some of the ill-contrived immigration laws of the United Kingdom.
I'm still at a loss to understand what specific changes you would like made. And incidentally, even if you were French or German or another EU/EEA nationality, your wife would still need a visa/permit to visit the United Kingdom.Russia wrote:So please, why not stop picking through the detail of my argument/observations and either, a) come out and support it/them, or b) challenge the idea/content…whilst making the assumption that those of us that have to jump through the process hoops will do so TOGETHER as MAN & WIFE.
Because of fake marriages. There is no way that airline check-in officials, for example, can be expected to assess whether a couple claiming to be married, really are married.Russia wrote: According to EU family rights legislation it is stated that visa-national spouses MAY BE required to obtain a visa for entry to country - my beef is why do country's (not just the UK) actually insist they do in every case?
In that case, you should try and be precise and stick to the point.
But as a start, I want to see the UK treating spouses of its own citizens with a tad more respect than is currently given - and yes the points you made are on my agenda - remove county of origin application requirement - extending visit periods go some way towards making the visa cost better value for money - reduce the disclosure requirement to the Schengen norms.
These I believe are reasonable demands.
Many European countries are not in the shengen zone, however, this does not stop us as a EU and Visa national couple from travelling through and staying for a short period in these countries. As I write, my wife and I are staying in a hotel in Slovenia, having entered via Italy enroute to Hungary (non Schengen) onto Ukraine to our destination Russia. The reason for my campaign, is to equalise the rights of British families with the rest of Europe - you made some extremely interesting points about the other aspects of the discrimination we are experiencing, as to who can clarify...? who knows, I've been stonewalled by Euro MPs, agencies, Brit MPs and ngo's. Sign the petition and lets force a Government response. http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/BritishSpouse/sakura wrote: As for Russia's comments:
Do you basically want the UK to join the schengen area so you don't need to bother with a visa? Would be nice but it isn't going to happen. At the end of the day, if the applicant is of a visa requiring country, you follow the guidelines or forget about travelling...
Is that true? I know a couple of people who are in that unfortunate situation (although both couples are not married, but have been living together for 2 years) and their lawyers have not told them it's possiblesakura wrote:
2. how is it that if a non-EEA family member is illegal, they can regularise their status without having to leave, yet for BC partners they need to apply from their own country for re-rentry
Could you please explain how a non-EEA family member of an EEA national exercising his treaty rights can be illegal?sakura wrote:2. how is it that if a non-EEA family member is illegal, they can regularise their status without having to leave, yet for BC partners they need to apply from their own country for re-rentry?