london2tim wrote:I too agree with my fellow forumists
There is 0.001% chances he will get naturalised at this point. From your initial post your husband has outstayed his visa and used while here an illegal document.
You were lucky a court has granted your appeal and you obtained ILR
the ILR - will give your husband freedom and rights in UK almost like any other British Citizens (with few exceptions as right to vote, be elected or serve in Army, Civil Servant etc)
It doesnt help a lot when it comes to travelling outside UK as he still holds an Egyptian passport - but that is in my opinion an effect of each country nationality law (some passports give u access to 170 countries some to 50 etc)
He will be able to leave and return to UK without an issue - it is the destination country that will always pose an issue - so maybe try holidaying within EU and more friendly countries
Im sure he is keen to travel freely but considering his history I think he needs to be a bit more realistic
To add to what: you took HO into court - and they hold a grudge against these sort of events - for a long time
As Citizenship is not a right (like ILR) where a court can force them to release the visa - but its exclusively at the HO discretion - they can deny the application at any time - even after 10 or 25 years because you took them into court.
The best way with this is the let time flow and dust gather before trying to re-open fresh wounds
I understand we were relatively lucky in having our spouse visa appeal granted however the HO made basic mistakes in the reasons given for his initial refusal the example I gave in my initial post of banning a spouse for 10 years is against their own rules.
At our appeal the rep from the HO was late, had not looked at our file and disappeared for an hour when we had a 10 minute break - no doubt her lack of respect for the judge helped in our favour however the judge was extremely thorough and didn't hold back in his opinions, we didn't get off lightly if that's what you think?! The Judge did take into account that we had now been living apart for almost 3 years - aside from the odd visit by me when I could get leave from work - yet were still in a subsisting marriage. To illustrate how thorough he was, I was in court for 4 hours 45 minutes in total, not including the hour waiting for the HO rep!
After our appeal was granted the HO again make a mistake in trying to appeal against that decision on the basis that our marriage certificate was not valid. Their appeal was refused as (in the second Judge's abridged words) "the validity of the marriage certificate is a matter of fact and not of law.... it can not be argued".
Our appeal was granted overall on various reasons, including how at the time the HO advice was that if you had overstayed etc then in order to regularise your stay you had to apply from outside the UK. The overstaying would still be taken into account but its impact lessened. The judge believed that we had done everything to try and make amends for past errors and followed the advice given. If they were to refuse entry to everyone who followed this advice then it would make their advice invalid as people would choose instead to stay and "disappear" rather than risk being separated from their families/partners.
I put the basics of our situation in my initial post, I did not disclose everything that had happened, why he used a f a k e ID? Why he overstayed etc all of which was in our application for spouse visa and aired in court.
To suggest that because we appealed a visa refusal, any application for Citizenship will be hindered further I find a little bit presumptuous - unless of course we get the same rep who sat in on the appeal hearing looking at the application... that would be fun... She was doing her job (when she was present) but she was also quite openly dearly beloved, some of her words for my Arab Husband were rather "choice" both in and out of the courtroom!
Thank you all for your advice and opinions... We're going to be filling in the info request this weekend - just have to find the 6 or 7 reference numbers they have on him now!
But why you did? 