Pakistan UK Spouse visa appeals

[stillwaiting123]

Hi can all new members and any people who don't have a signature outlining their timeline please insert one

U can do this by clicking control panel then profile and edit signature
It just helps everyone so there is no need to ask when u appealed or when deadline is etc

[farrukh786786]

Just to make u feel stronger , I'm apart from my first born 15 months old son since 15 months because of Home office idotic faulty assesment .

[stillwaiting123]

Just to make u feel stronger , I'm apart from my first born 15 months old son since 15 months because of Home office idotic faulty assesment .

Inshallah allah will reward us all for our patience im sure of it

[tahete115]

Appealed:02.02.15
Review Deadline:18.06.15
Review Unsuccessful
Listed For Court:17.05.15
NO HEARING DATE YET

Are u really still waiting since may?

What was your refusal reason?
& have u thought of maybe reapplying?

stillwaiting123
my refusal was subsisting relation, i dont know what to do, my solicitor said its better to reapplying.

[stillwaiting123]

Appealed:02.02.15
Review Deadline:18.06.15
Review Unsuccessful
Listed For Court:17.05.15
NO HEARING DATE YET

Are u really still waiting since may?

What was your refusal reason?
& have u thought of maybe reapplying?

stillwaiting123
my refusal was subsisting relation, i dont know what to do, my solicitor said its better to reapplying.

I think u might as well to be honest
U have waited long enough
This time u will need to show all forms of communication from the beginning of your marriage

Why did they not believe your relationship?

[2011maryam]

@2011marryam sister many many prayers for u may Allah give u success and home office should learn a lesson to not breach family rights if an innocent kid is involved.
How many month u had waited for ur court date as I noticed cases involve with kids usually receive court date earlier unless case would be much complicated.

My dates are in my signature
But i think i was one of the lucky ones my review date was 6th october and got my hearing for feb, I submitted my appeal in April so near enough 10 months total,

[binubinu]

@binubinu

Don't worry sis inshallah it will all work out

My hubby has not seen my 2 year old for 9 months now and this upsets me more than anything, inshallah our sabr will be rewarded x

That is very sad to hear and there are so many more who are unnecessarily in the same situation.

We are all constantly making dua but like you said we have to stay strong and have sabr.

In Sha Allah we will all be reunited soon.

[binubinu]

Dont loose heart sister , you will win at review stage in sha Allah .A mp from labour !! Really strange behaviour .Anyway why u r thinking that if u wont listen till ur deadline its goes to court , undoubtedly tribunal listed it for court but u will still have chance to win it until bhc upheld their original decision so my suggestion is just wait a couple of week and at 15 feb do send an email to ur mp that still bhc didnt review it in this case atleaset he would be able to make ur case reviewed postive or negative .May Allah make it podsitive for u and all of us.Good luck we all pray for u .may Allah reunite an innocent soul with his love ones.

I am just assuming that's what happens, right? If they haven't reviewed till the deadline then it will automatically go to a hearing.

Thank you for the suggestion, I will email my MP again if I haven't received news till 15th February. I will also send another email to that sheffield.islamabad email and ask for an update in a few days time.

And thank you for the dua, and good luck to you too with your deadline in March, In Sha Allah we will all be reunited very soon

[binubinu]

Just to make u feel stronger , I'm apart from my first born 15 months old son since 15 months because of Home office idotic faulty assesment .

So have you not even met your child yet? This is very saddening to hear, this whole process goes against our human rights!

I will make dua for you and all the others who are in this difficult position. In Sha Allah our duas will be accepted very soon.

[R12]

Hi All

Need yours Help
my wife visa been refused ground Of EC-P .1.1 (d) of appendix FM of the Immigration Rules E-ECP 3.1
you have not submitted (g) witch is Evidence of class 2 NI contributions.

I am employed and self employ and i am paying Class 4 NI contribution witch is showing on SA302,
very upset now dont really know what to do appeal or fresh application,
i will be thanks full for any advise,
Many thanks

[stillwaiting123]

Hi All

Need yours Help
my wife visa been refused ground Of EC-P .1.1 (d) of appendix FM of the Immigration Rules E-ECP 3.1
you have not submitted (g) witch is Evidence of class 2 NI contributions.

I am employed and self employ and i am paying Class 4 NI contribution witch is showing on SA302,
very upset now dont really know what to do appeal or fresh application,
i will be thanks full for any advise,
Many thanks

Brother i can't understand this

Post a pic of your refusal or inbox it

[R12]

Hi All

Need yours Help
my wife visa been refused ground Of EC-P .1.1 (d) of appendix FM of the Immigration Rules E-ECP 3.1
you have not submitted (g) witch is Evidence of class 2 NI contributions.

I am employed and self employ and i am paying Class 4 NI contribution witch is showing on SA302,
very upset now dont really know what to do appeal or fresh application,
i will be thanks full for any advise,
Many thanks

Brother i can't understand this

Post a pic of your refusal or inbox it

Basically thy saying I didn't give them class 2 NI contribution. Statement that's why thy refused visa. I don't have copy with my now will upload soon.

[stillwaiting123]

Hi All

Need yours Help
my wife visa been refused ground Of EC-P .1.1 (d) of appendix FM of the Immigration Rules E-ECP 3.1
you have not submitted (g) witch is Evidence of class 2 NI contributions.

I am employed and self employ and i am paying Class 4 NI contribution witch is showing on SA302,
very upset now dont really know what to do appeal or fresh application,
i will be thanks full for any advise,
Many thanks

Brother i can't understand this

Post a pic of your refusal or inbox it

Basically thy saying I didn't give them class 2 NI contribution. Statement that's why thy refused visa. I don't have copy with my now will upload soon.

So basically u havent paid the right amount of tax?

[R12]

I paid more then what thy asking. Class 4 is more then class 2

[stillwaiting123]

I paid more then what thy asking. Class 4 is more then class 2

O okay sorry im not familiar with these terms
Well surely its a good thing?
But i don't really know how to advise u, what has your solicitor said? (If u have one)

[Heena0524]

Hey everyone it's my first time on this, a bit of help would be greatly appreciated. So let me start, previously my husband was a overstayer his visa expired in 2009 the same year I met him. We got engaged in 2011, we put up a case of human rights in 2012 and it got rejected we then continued on to religious marriage (nikkah) in 2013. We was mislead by our solicitor at the time. Then we had a court hearing, and the judge felt we had a genuine relationship but he went on to say that I did not meet the financial requirements so the case got refused. Between all of this my husband got detained for 15 days. Last year, we thought that it was better for him to go back voluntarily, in order for me to apply for spousal visa,so that I could meet all the financial requirements so that he could return smoothly. In order for me to meet the requirement of earning and accommodation I worked 2 jobs. I applied for the spouse visa in November and it got refused yesterday. What I would like to ask is upon the refusal of my case the reasons given by the person who assessed my case was:

1) relationship not genuine
2) the second job I only obtained to meet the requirement
3) my husband when he got detained was accused of giving false identity (when he sat down in the station he gave his own name and details, but gave other information at the scene because he was in a vehicle who belonged to a friend)
4) they accused my husband for working without permission as they "saw" on his bank statements. However, his bank statements only show money coming in from myself and other family moments to support him as he was not working at the time.

The question I have is the options given by my solicitor is to appeal or to prepare for a review to take place of my case, my question is which one of this would you suggest and why?

Thank you,

Heena

[stillwaiting123]

Hey everyone it's my first time on this, a bit of help would be greatly appreciated. So let me start, previously my husband was a overstayer his visa expired in 2009 the same year I met him. We got engaged in 2011, we put up a case of human rights in 2012 and it got rejected we then continued on to religious marriage (nikkah) in 2013. We was mislead by our solicitor at the time. Then we had a court hearing, and the judge felt we had a genuine relationship but he went on to say that I did not meet the financial requirements so the case got refused. Between all of this my husband got detained for 15 days. Last year, we thought that it was better for him to go back voluntarily, in order for me to apply for spousal visa,so that I could meet all the financial requirements so that he could return smoothly. In order for me to meet the requirement of earning and accommodation I worked 2 jobs. I applied for the spouse visa in November and it got refused yesterday. What I would like to ask is upon the refusal of my case the reasons given by the person who assessed my case was:

1) relationship not genuine
2) the second job I only obtained to meet the requirement
3) my husband when he got detained was accused of giving false identity (when he sat down in the station he gave his own name and details, but gave other information at the scene because he was in a vehicle who belonged to a friend)
4) they accused my husband for working without permission as they "saw" on his bank statements. However, his bank statements only show money coming in from myself and other family moments to support him as he was not working at the time.

The question I have is the options given by my solicitor is to appeal or to prepare for a review to take place of my case, my question is which one of this would you suggest and why?

Thank you,

Heena

Firstly so sorry about your refusal ino how down and upset u may be feeling at the moment but dont worry everything happens for a reason....
Looks like u have had a very long journey so far i hope everything is sorted quickly

Id like to just explain to u that "review" and "appeal" is one thing first it goes to a review which is a 15 week deadline in which the eco has the chance to change their mind, once deadline is up then u have to wait for a court hearing all this is a very lengthy process many of us have been waiting 4/5 months after our reviews being declined for court dates.

In your case i would say go for the appeal as they will keep refusing u if u apply again and u need to get your point across to them in court, i am 99% sure u won't get the visa at review stage as u have many strong refusal points.

Once u get a court date u should be able to explain all the situation to them regarding your husband and hopefully this will clear things up. On the point of your job id say keep the 2nd job going as if u leave it their point is then valid.

I really hope things work out for u sis

Goodluck x

[Heena0524]

Hey everyone it's my first time on this, a bit of help would be greatly appreciated. So let me start, previously my husband was a overstayer his visa expired in 2009 the same year I met him. We got engaged in 2011, we put up a case of human rights in 2012 and it got rejected we then continued on to religious marriage (nikkah) in 2013. We was mislead by our solicitor at the time. Then we had a court hearing, and the judge felt we had a genuine relationship but he went on to say that I did not meet the financial requirements so the case got refused. Between all of this my husband got detained for 15 days. Last year, we thought that it was better for him to go back voluntarily, in order for me to apply for spousal visa,so that I could meet all the financial requirements so that he could return smoothly. In order for me to meet the requirement of earning and accommodation I worked 2 jobs. I applied for the spouse visa in November and it got refused yesterday. What I would like to ask is upon the refusal of my case the reasons given by the person who assessed my case was:

1) relationship not genuine
2) the second job I only obtained to meet the requirement
3) my husband when he got detained was accused of giving false identity (when he sat down in the station he gave his own name and details, but gave other information at the scene because he was in a vehicle who belonged to a friend)
4) they accused my husband for working without permission as they "saw" on his bank statements. However, his bank statements only show money coming in from myself and other family moments to support him as he was not working at the time.

The question I have is the options given by my solicitor is to appeal or to prepare for a review to take place of my case, my question is which one of this would you suggest and why?

Thank you,

Heena

Firstly so sorry about your refusal ino how down and upset u may be feeling at the moment but dont worry everything happens for a reason....
Looks like u have had a very long journey so far i hope everything is sorted quickly

Id like to just explain to u that "review" and "appeal" is one thing first it goes to a review which is a 15 week deadline in which the eco has the chance to change their mind, once deadline is up then u have to wait for a court hearing all this is a very lengthy process many of us have been waiting 4/5 months after our reviews being declined for court dates.

In your case i would say go for the appeal as they will keep refusing u if u apply again and u need to get your point across to them in court, i am 99% sure u won't get the visa at review stage as u have many strong refusal points.

Once u get a court date u should be able to explain all the situation to them regarding your husband and hopefully this will clear things up. On the point of your job id say keep the 2nd job going as if u leave it their point is then valid.

I really hope things work out for u sis

Goodluck x

Firstly, thank you for your quick response.

I would like to add that I have valid reasons and evidences against the points that they have claimed, wouldn't this make a difference?

[stillwaiting123]

@heena0524

Your welcome

And if your husband overstayed, was detained and accused of giving false information then i dont think they would grant the visa at review.

Many people have small issues and even then they have to go to court and as they also don't believe your relationship is geniune and the whole issue of overstaying i think it would most likely go to court, im just talking from what i have seen and read but u never know you could get lucky.

Why did they not believe the relationship? Did u not provide enough proof?

[Heena0524]

Hey everyone it's my first time on this, a bit of help would be greatly appreciated. So let me start, previously my husband was a overstayer his visa expired in 2009 the same year I met him. We got engaged in 2011, we put up a case of human rights in 2012 and it got rejected we then continued on to religious marriage (nikkah) in 2013. We was mislead by our solicitor at the time. Then we had a court hearing, and the judge felt we had a genuine relationship but he went on to say that I did not meet the financial requirements so the case got refused. Between all of this my husband got detained for 15 days. Last year, we thought that it was better for him to go back voluntarily, in order for me to apply for spousal visa,so that I could meet all the financial requirements so that he could return smoothly. In order for me to meet the requirement of earning and accommodation I worked 2 jobs. I applied for the spouse visa in November and it got refused yesterday. What I would like to ask is upon the refusal of my case the reasons given by the person who assessed my case was:

1) relationship not genuine
2) the second job I only obtained to meet the requirement
3) my husband when he got detained was accused of giving false identity (when he sat down in the station he gave his own name and details, but gave other information at the scene because he was in a vehicle who belonged to a friend)
4) they accused my husband for working without permission as they "saw" on his bank statements. However, his bank statements only show money coming in from myself and other family moments to support him as he was not working at the time.

The question I have is the options given by my solicitor is to appeal or to prepare for a review to take place of my case, my question is which one of this would you suggest and why?

Thank you,

Heena

Firstly so sorry about your refusal ino how down and upset u may be feeling at the moment but dont worry everything happens for a reason....
Looks like u have had a very long journey so far i hope everything is sorted quickly

Id like to just explain to u that "review" and "appeal" is one thing first it goes to a review which is a 15 week deadline in which the eco has the chance to change their mind, once deadline is up then u have to wait for a court hearing all this is a very lengthy process many of us have been waiting 4/5 months after our reviews being declined for court dates.

In your case i would say go for the appeal as they will keep refusing u if u apply again and u need to get your point across to them in court, i am 99% sure u won't get the visa at review stage as u have many strong refusal points.

Once u get a court date u should be able to explain all the situation to them regarding your husband and hopefully this will clear things up. On the point of your job id say keep the 2nd job going as if u leave it their point is then valid.

I really hope things work out for u sis

Goodluck x

Firstly, thank you for your quick response.

I would like to add that I have valid reasons and evidences against the points that they have claimed, wouldn't this make a difference?

The previous case I did the judge said our relationship was genuine but this time they did not check the dates property and claimed we got married for the first time in 2015 when truly the nikkah happened in 2013 and they had a photocopy of the certificate. I have sent whatsapp chat screenshots, cards, call logs, pictures, I even went to Pakistan to visit him so I don't know what else to provide.

[stillwaiting123]

@heena0524

Yes unfortunately sometimes they dont list all the refusal points and then use them when u apply again

Id say appeal 100% as a new case would be a total waste of time and money for you, then c how review goes, if successful your sorted.

If not then explain all this in court it just all looks like a mix up to be honest

When your husband was detained was he married to u?

[Heena0524]

@heena0524

Yes unfortunately sometimes they dont list all the refusal points and then use them when u apply again

Id say appeal 100% as a new case would be a total waste of time and money for you, then c how review goes, if successful your sorted.

If not then explain all this in court it just all looks like a mix up to be honest

When your husband was detained was he married to u?

Yes sis he was married to me, so are you saying go for the review? Or just the appeal?
If I just go for appeal how long would it take?

[stillwaiting123]

@heena0524

Yes unfortunately sometimes they dont list all the refusal points and then use them when u apply again

Id say appeal 100% as a new case would be a total waste of time and money for you, then c how review goes, if successful your sorted.

If not then explain all this in court it just all looks like a mix up to be honest

When your husband was detained was he married to u?

Yes sis he was married to me, so are you saying go for the review? Or just the appeal?
If I just go for appeal how long would it take?

Ok i dont know if it will make a difference that he was married to u then or not

And like i said review and appeal is a whole process u can't go to appeal (which is court) until a review has happened

U can c my timeline below

I appealed may 2015
Got my review deadline for 27th October
On 22nd September i called the tribunal and they said it was unsuccessful at review and was listed for court

Im currently still waiting for a court date if not ill be reapplying in April

U need to send the appeal off and get a oral hearing (court) this cost £140

Then after about 5/6 weeks u will get a notice stating that u have a 15 week deadline (3.5 months)
Then if they change their minds at review u should know within 5/6 weeks of the set deadline if not then after the 15 weeks are up its 100% going to court.

Court dates can take long anything from 1-12 months to be honest currently the waiting time is 6/7 months

Some people's deadlines were July/August and they are still waiting for a court hearing

[Heena0524]

@heena0524

Yes unfortunately sometimes they dont list all the refusal points and then use them when u apply again

Id say appeal 100% as a new case would be a total waste of time and money for you, then c how review goes, if successful your sorted.

If not then explain all this in court it just all looks like a mix up to be honest

When your husband was detained was he married to u?

Yes sis he was married to me, so are you saying go for the review? Or just the appeal?
If I just go for appeal how long would it take?

Ok i dont know if it will make a difference that he was married to u then or not

And like i said review and appeal is a whole process u can't go to appeal (which is court) until a review has happened

U can c my timeline below

I appealed may 2015
Got my review deadline for 27th October
On 22nd September i called the tribunal and they said it was unsuccessful at review and was listed for court

Im currently still waiting for a court date if not ill be reapplying in April

U need to send the appeal off and get a oral hearing (court) this cost £140

Then after about 5/6 weeks u will get a notice stating that u have a 15 week deadline (3.5 months)
Then if they change their minds at review u should know within 5/6 weeks of the set deadline if not then after the 15 weeks are up its 100% going to court.

Court dates can take long anything from 1-12 months to be honest currently the waiting time is 6/7 months

Some people's deadlines were July/August and they are still waiting for a court hearing

Thank you sis for this

[stillwaiting123]

@heena0542

Your welcome
Hope everything is sorted soon x