No I'm not, I understand.Casa wrote:You may still be confused between an EEA Resident Permit and the UK ILR-BRP.
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No I'm not, I understand.Casa wrote:You may still be confused between an EEA Resident Permit and the UK ILR-BRP.
She could have applied for citizenship immediately after receiving ILR, just thought you might not be aware. Takes a a bit longer if she wants to retain her SA citizenship though as there are two other steps to do first.Mercyknight wrote:It's been a long process.
She was granted Discretionary Leave to Remain (under human rights) for the last 6 years (had to keep renewing), and then got issued with ILR this year when we applied last November 2015.
Each country consulate may be different, and do hope you do manage to see someone. Hopefully they are nothing like the Finnish embassy, who don't even let you into the premises until your appointment time, when I arrived 15 mins early. They checked the appointment booking printout at the time of allowing me in. It was similar when I applied through the tls contact centre who submit applications to the French consulate. They use a outdoor queueing system, and check appointment printouts prior to letting anyone in.Mercyknight wrote:I'm going to go to the consulate in Manchester and see if they'll see us without having an appointment! Long shot I know...
Yeah I've checked, appointments aren't available for another month. When I've tried to book the appointments it says there's an error with their system! So not even getting any joy there with simply submitting an application.cs95tdg wrote:Each country consulate may be different, and do hope you do manage to see someone. Hopefully they are nothing like the Finnish embassy, who don't even let you into the premises until your appointment time, when I arrived 15 mins early. They checked the appointment booking printout at the time of allowing me in. It was similar when I applied through the tls contact centre who submit applications to the French consulate. They use a outdoor queueing system, and check appointment printouts prior to letting anyone in.Mercyknight wrote:I'm going to go to the consulate in Manchester and see if they'll see us without having an appointment! Long shot I know...
I'm guessing you've already checked to see if any appointments are available?
The systems are clearly broken. Its no good quoting SLAs.Mercyknight wrote:Isn't there some stipulation that they have to get an appointment for an EU spouse within 2 weeks?
But what if "someone who isn't me" decided to get a schengen visa for Paris say for Friday night, and it was only single entry, however, that said person decided they didn't want to go to Paris on Friday, and changed their mind and decided to go to Portugal that weekend instead.Casa wrote:You may not be issued with a multiple entry Schengen visa.
You can dig into such vital if hypothetical questions here:Mercyknight wrote: But what if "someone who isn't me" decided to get a schengen visa for Paris say for Friday night, and it was only single entry, however, that said person decided they didn't want to go to Paris on Friday, and changed their mind and decided to go to Portugal that weekend instead.
Hypothetically speaking??
Really though LTVs are very rare and usually given under exceptional circumstances?Casa wrote:It also depends on whether you are issued with a Uniform Schengen Visas (USV) or a Limited territorial validity visas (LTV)
Yeah I've seen that, I'm not concerned about that for this reason:noajthan wrote:See overview:
http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/tr ... dex_en.htm
Exactly.Mercyknight wrote:Yeah I've seen that, I'm not concerned about that for this reason:noajthan wrote:See overview:
http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/tr ... dex_en.htm
owever, if they arrive at the border without an entry visa, the border authorities should give them the opportunity to prove by other means that they are your family members. If they manage to prove it, they should be issued with an entry visa on the spot.
The issue is being allowed to fly.
Yeah it was whoever was in charge at Manchester. Yeah I'm aware that it's my call. I wasn't "gloating" saying it'll be find, I genuinely asking what you thought about what they were saying? Can it be trusted?Casa wrote:I doubt that you spoke with the UKBA . They were disbanded in March 2013 as being unfit for purpose and superseded by the UKVI.![]()
There doesn't seem much else to add to the advise already given. At the end of the day it's your call.
I'm not concerned about Portugal. I honestly think that'll be fine. I had a online chat with a representative and gave very clear info that it wasn't EEA family member one, I spoke to them twice on the phone and they confirmed exactly the same information. They because she's travelling with me she just needs a valid passport. All three people checked with supervisors and all three gave the same advice independently. I asked very detailed and specific questions.Casa wrote:Personally having seen on the forum how frequently the UKVI staff give flawed advice and then take no responsibility for doing so, I would be cautious.
However, you say that you have confirmation by email from the airline (I assume 'R') that your wife can travel. UKVI Immigration Officers won't be interested in her outward travel...it's the authorities in Portugal that you need to consider.
Just one point. Did you explain to the airline that your wife doesn't hold an EEA Resident Card?Also who exactly emailed the clearance to travel?
There are two hurdles.Mercyknight wrote:I'm not concerned about Portugal. I honestly think that'll be fine. I had a online chat with a representative and gave very clear info that it wasn't EEA family member one, I spoke to them twice on the phone and they confirmed exactly the same information. They because she's travelling with me she just needs a valid passport. All three people checked with supervisors and all three gave the same advice independently. I asked very detailed and specific questions.
Two phone calls to customer services, one to whatever the border agency peeps are called, and then a transcript from R online.Casa wrote:I understood that you had confirmation from the airline in writing (by email) that they would permit your wife to board. Were you only given approval by telephone?