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Re: Leaving Voluntarily after overstaying will ban for how L

Post by usmmlik » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:05 pm

Casa wrote:Why would her employer sponsor a visitor visa from her and your children :?: The ECO may consider that she Is intending to work on her employer's behalf while she is in the UK.
she is not working in a big company, there will be official work for that company in the UK. the company offers 2 week paid holidays. and in that money she can add a little bit of her money to cover the expenses. for 2 weeks expenses £1000 will be more than enough, including the hotel stay. what IF means? sorry i did not get that.

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Re: Leaving Voluntarily after overstaying will ban for how L

Post by Casa » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:10 pm

'IF' was in CR001's post, not mine.

A visitor is not permitted to carry out any work while in the UK as a visitor (even voluntary work). The ECO is likely to easily spot the intention when the application is being sponsored by the employer. :idea:
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Re: Leaving Voluntarily after overstaying will ban for how L

Post by usmmlik » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:14 pm

CR001 wrote:I was referring to sponsoring her to live in the UK with you IF you legalised your status.
How can legalise My Status? I have tried my Best to find the way, but failed.

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Re: Leaving Voluntarily after overstaying will ban for how L

Post by usmmlik » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:18 pm

Casa wrote:'IF' was in CR001's post, not mine.

A visitor is not permitted to carry out any work while in the UK as a visitor (even voluntary work). The ECO is likely to easily spot the intention when the application is being sponsored by the employer. :idea:
They are not coming to work here, they will live in a Hotel for 2 weeks. and after that they will leave the country, because the kids have their schools. and they will have leave from their schools for only 2 weeks. after that they must will have to join their schools.

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Re: Leaving Voluntarily after overstaying will ban for how L

Post by usmmlik » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:20 pm

[quote="usmmlik"][quote="Casa"]'IF' was in CR001's post, not mine.

A visitor is not permitted to carry out any work while in the UK as a visitor (even voluntary work). The ECO is likely to easily spot the intention when the application is being sponsored by the employer. :idea:[quote]
They are not coming to work here, they will live in a Hotel for 2 weeks. and after that they will leave the country, because the kids have their schools. and they will have leave from their schools for only 2 weeks. after that they must will have to join their schools.
or shall we apply for Ireland visit visa, which one is easier to get?

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Re: Leaving Voluntarily after overstaying will ban for how L

Post by Casa » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:26 pm

usmmlik wrote: there will be official work for that company in the UK.
In which case, why did you write the above?

If they apply for a visitor visa for Ireland how will you meet them if you have no legal right of residence in the UK :idea:
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Re: Leaving Voluntarily after overstaying will ban for how L

Post by usmmlik » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:29 pm

Casa wrote:
usmmlik wrote: there will be official work for that company in the UK.
In which case, why did you write the above?
sorry , my mistake, i was writing "there will not be any official work for that company in the UK, because that is a small company and have no clients outside Pakistan"
apologies for my typing mistake.

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Re: Leaving Voluntarily after overstaying will ban for how L

Post by usmmlik » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:31 pm

Casa wrote:
usmmlik wrote: there will be official work for that company in the UK.
In which case, why did you write the above?

If they apply for a visitor visa for Ireland how will you meet them if you have no legal right of residence in the UK :idea:
Yes, I can go to Ireland with my EEA National Sponsor. my Solicitor told that.
and I can meet my family there for 2 weeks. My Main question is , what should they state in application form regarding me, and what purpose of visit they should say? and sponsoring by the company (where my wife works) will be a positive point or negative point? and my wife income will affect my extended family member application?

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Re: Leaving Voluntarily after overstaying will ban for how L

Post by Casa » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:41 pm

How does your solicitor believe you can travel to Ireland and return to the UK without a valid EEA permit, having already been refused residence as an EFM?

I've already given my opinion on your wife's employer sponsoring the visitor visa.

Your wife will have to show that she is financially self-sufficient and has strong ties to her home country.
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Re: Leaving Voluntarily after overstaying will ban for how L

Post by usmmlik » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:46 pm

Casa wrote:How does your solicitor believe you can travel to Ireland and return to the UK without a valid EEA permit, having already been refused residence as an EFM?

I've already given my opinion on your wife's employer sponsoring the visitor visa.

Your wife will have to show that she is financially self-sufficient and has strong ties to her home country.
My wife can prove that she is financially strong by providing her bank statement and her source of income which is salary slips rent from 2 shops.
and she can also prove her strong ties with back home, by providing our Kids Schools holidays letters and the documents for the property she owns and she is receiving rent from that property, and she has a job in back home and she will must leave the country after 2 weeks holidays, because she cannot give up all the assets she owns.
what other documents will make the application more stronger?
will this affect my eea extended family member application? as a dependent of my brother EEA National?

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Post by Casa » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:52 pm

Her previous application as your spouse is likely to result in the refusal of a visitor visa due her previous intention to reside in the UK.

Having lost your appeal, why do you think a new EFM application will succeed?
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Re: Leaving Voluntarily after overstaying will ban for how L

Post by CR001 » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:53 pm

You should not leave the UK if you have an application pending with HO, who presumably also have your passport. So how will you travel??

You should also be aware that there is a backlog of roughly 6,000 applications from Pakistan and India for visit visas to Ireland, some have waited over a year.
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Re: Leaving Voluntarily after overstaying will ban for how L

Post by usmmlik » Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:59 pm

Casa wrote:Her previous application as your spouse is likely to result in the refusal of a visitor visa due her previous intention to reside in the UK.

Having lost your appeal, why do you think a new EFM application will succeed?
there was a mistake in my previous application, and this time I rectified that mistake and re submitted. some digits were wrongly entered by my previous solicitor.
and My wife's previous application was as a family visitor, it was not as my spouse. and she never intended to live here permanently. she has belongings and strong relationship in back home. Her parents and siblings and her assets.
I wanted to know, what she will say about me in the application form? is she coming to see me or she is coming to visit for 2 weeks? which is more positive point in application?

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Post by Casa » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:03 pm

She must tell the truth.
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Re: Leaving Voluntarily after overstaying will ban for how L

Post by usmmlik » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:04 pm

CR001 wrote:You should not leave the UK if you have an application pending with HO, who presumably also have your passport. So how will you travel??

You should also be aware that there is a backlog of roughly 6,000 applications from Pakistan and India for visit visas to Ireland, some have waited over a year.
I am not leaving the UK now, as you advised. according to your advise, it is best to apply for the UK visit visa.
but what should they say about me in the application form? and are they coming to visit me as a family visitor or they are visiting the UK as a tourist? in both cases they will stay in the hotel.
I need advise to get a positive response on their application. its too much difficult to live far from kids for a long time. and its very depressive too.

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Re: Leaving Voluntarily after overstaying will ban for how L

Post by usmmlik » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:05 pm

Casa wrote:She must tell the truth.
the truth I already told you. All the documents will be true and based on the facts.
but will it affect my application? which is already in home office under process.

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Post by Casa » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:06 pm

usmmlik wrote:
CR001 wrote:You should not leave the UK if you have an application pending with HO, who presumably also have your passport. So how will you travel??

You should also be aware that there is a backlog of roughly 6,000 applications from Pakistan and India for visit visas to Ireland, some have waited over a year.
I am not leaving the UK now, as you advised. according to your advise, it is best to apply for the UK visit visa.
but what should they say about me in the application form? and are they coming to visit me as a family visitor or they are visiting the UK as a tourist? in both cases they will stay in the hotel.
I need advise to get a positive response on their application. its too much difficult to live far from kids for a long time. and its very depressive too.
Have you considered going home to make a life with your wife and children if it's so difficult to be apart from them? :idea:
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Re: Leaving Voluntarily after overstaying will ban for how L

Post by usmmlik » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:08 pm

Casa wrote:
usmmlik wrote:
CR001 wrote:You should not leave the UK if you have an application pending with HO, who presumably also have your passport. So how will you travel??

You should also be aware that there is a backlog of roughly 6,000 applications from Pakistan and India for visit visas to Ireland, some have waited over a year.
I am not leaving the UK now, as you advised. according to your advise, it is best to apply for the UK visit visa.
but what should they say about me in the application form? and are they coming to visit me as a family visitor or they are visiting the UK as a tourist? in both cases they will stay in the hotel.
I need advise to get a positive response on their application. its too much difficult to live far from kids for a long time. and its very depressive too.
Have you considered going home to make a life with your wife and children if it's so difficult to be apart from them? :idea:
this is very difficult to live apart from them and this is waste of life. the condition I am suffering from only I know. its very difficult to express. it makes me metal patient, too much aggressive and rude day by day.
Please delete this post, Sorry I was not supposed to be emotional here.

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Re: Leaving Voluntarily after overstaying will ban for how L

Post by CR001 » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:11 pm

usmmlik wrote:there was a mistake in my previous application, and this time I rectified that mistake and re submitted. some digits were wrongly entered by my previous solicitor.
What do you mean by 'some digits were wrongly entered'???

What does this have to do with your proving dependency prior to being in the UK??
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Post by CR001 » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:14 pm

If she applies for a visit visa, she has to state she is married and provide details as/if required. UKVI will check the records based on her previous visitor application and will see all the information about you.

You really should think about doing the right thing and go home instead of trying to apply for things you don't qualify for. This will have long term effects in terms of PR/ILR and citizenship if you get to that point. Your immigration history has a huge black mark now.
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Re: Leaving Voluntarily after overstaying will ban for how L

Post by usmmlik » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:16 pm

CR001 wrote:
usmmlik wrote:there was a mistake in my previous application, and this time I rectified that mistake and re submitted. some digits were wrongly entered by my previous solicitor.
What do you mean by 'some digits were wrongly entered'???

What does this have to do with your proving dependency prior to being in the UK??
he wrote 2015 instead of 2013
and 2 other mistakes, i have provided prior dependency proofs, but still case is weak.
I am trying to fill the application form for visit visa for my wife and kids, only stucked on the question about me and their purpose of visit.

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Post by CR001 » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:19 pm

Dependency in your home country BEFORE coming to the UK with the EU citizen NOT your brother??

If you know your case is weak, why bother applying again. Changing dates will raise HO suspicions and they will think someone (you) is lying.
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Post by usmmlik » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:23 pm

CR001 wrote:If she applies for a visit visa, she has to state she is married and provide details as/if required. UKVI will check the records based on her previous visitor application and will see all the information about you.

You really should think about doing the right thing and go home instead of trying to apply for things you don't qualify for. This will have long term effects in terms of PR/ILR and citizenship if you get to that point. Your immigration history has a huge black mark now.
I was trying to wait for the General Election, until my Application is under process. may be if new government comes and the make changes in the law and they announce a Amnesty scheme.
that why I was waiting

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Post by usmmlik » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:28 pm

CR001 wrote:Dependency in your home country BEFORE coming to the UK with the EU citizen NOT your brother??

If you know your case is weak, why bother applying again. Changing dates will raise HO suspicions and they will think someone (you) is lying.
It is mentioned on the company's documents issued by the Company House. only the clerk in my solicitor's office he did that mistake and I never realized, was totally trusting on him.
that mistake I caught this time filling the new application form.

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Post by CR001 » Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:30 pm

What document from 'company house' do you mean?
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