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I wouldn't say that the fact that you are gay will affect at all.Waitingonstamp4 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:51 pmThe grounds for as to why they rejected us wasn’t really clear.
My husband was married once before so it could have been that. Perhaps even because we are a gay couple but I’m really not sure.
Well actually perhaps he will get his Stamp then after his masters. My husband was a different case. He was on a stamp 3 which entitled him to remain in the country but not work.
That’s good news to hear about the 9 months - gives me a little hope! I was reading On this forum that it took somebody 17 months to get theirs!!
I'm not 100% sure, but I think it was last year? It was definitely within the last couple of years anyway. You should be able to look it up on here, it was a lady whose husband was an asylum seeker.Waitingonstamp4 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:03 pmHey out of interest what date did this person submit their application that got their letter after 9 months?
The alternative basis should include Stamp 2. I'd suggest arguing your point citing that rule, with a print-out of that page.INIS Website wrote:A. If you are a non visa required national who has entered the State legally within the last 90 days or if you are a visa required national and you are within the period of permission to remain granted to you on arrival in the State (except short stay ‘c’ visas):, or if you have current permission to remain in the State on an alternative basis both you and your Irish national spouse/civil partner should attend at your local Garda National Immigration Bureau Registration office with the following documentation:
- Your original marriage/civil partnership certificate
Your original passport
Your Irish spouse’s/civil partner’s original passport
Evidence of your joint address
We brought this documentation to GNIB the second time. I think the first time, the person who saw us at appointment screwed us over. He never told us there was a reason for refusal, he only told us that they don't do the transfer to Stamp 4, and irrespective of what visa he comes in, we need to write to DOJ to change the stamp.Zoot7 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:59 pmMy wife (who's non-EU) came into the country on a work visa after we got married in her home country. Two days after she arrived we went to the immigration officier to regisiter her for Stamp 4.
Typically she would have got Stamp 1 instead, but we made use of the loop-hole whereby if you're the spouse of an Irish citizen and you enter the country on any D visa (doesn't have to be a Join-Spouse visa), you can get the stamp 4 within the 90 day period.
If anyone was gaming the system it was us - the normal method would have been for her to get a Join Spouse visa instead. However, the Work visa was quicker to be approved and much easier to get plus we didn't have to prove our relationship to anyone at any point.
Regardless of this gaming the system, she got the Stamp 4 just fine with no nasty questions or anything like that.
Which is why I find this case strange, if he was on Stamp 2, it should be easy to transfer to Stamp 4.
That's covered here:
http://inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/WP07000024
The alternative basis should include Stamp 2. I'd suggest arguing your point citing that rule, with a print-out of that page.INIS Website wrote:A. If you are a non visa required national who has entered the State legally within the last 90 days or if you are a visa required national and you are within the period of permission to remain granted to you on arrival in the State (except short stay ‘c’ visas):, or if you have current permission to remain in the State on an alternative basis both you and your Irish national spouse/civil partner should attend at your local Garda National Immigration Bureau Registration office with the following documentation:
- Your original marriage/civil partnership certificate
Your original passport
Your Irish spouse’s/civil partner’s original passport
Evidence of your joint address
The letter basically states he has temporary permission to remain in the state on stamp 4 conditions for 12 months And that we have to go to GNIB. If GNIB is happy, we get a Certificate of Registration, and that along with the letter giving us temporary permission, will show what stamp we get. I’m not even sure if this letter is just the letter confirming his permanent stamp 4, or if it’s temporary. I’ll have to see at GNIB. I believe the decision is made because they returned all of our documents.Waitingonstamp4 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:49 pmCongratulations! I’m not too sure about the process of getting it.
If you don’t mind me asking - what did it say in the letter that you received from SOIN?
When myself and my husband applied over 8 months ago the only thing the letter said was the he had permission to remain in the state but said nothing about getting a temporary stamp 4.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
We’re really struggling with all of this at the moment.
It’s a very long 2 page letter, the first line says granted temporary permission to remain in the state, on stamp 4 conditions, for 12 months. The second page asks him to register at GNIB, and then GNIB will issue a certificate of registration and together with this letter will show which stamp you have received. It also says he can now work without a work permit due to the grant of the stamp 4 and the conditions that come with it. I’m still confused if that means the application is still pending or if it’s done, but I guess we’ll see at GNIB.Waitingonstamp4 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:32 pmDid it say specifically he had “permission to remain in the state under stamp 4 conditions”
Or did it say “permission to remain in the state”.
The latter is what it said on our letter when we got our confirmation letter along with our original documents back.
By the way they return your original documents because they take photocopies of them - they may ask you to resubmit them in due time.
Yup! We actually sent the old one first but then they sent our application back and we sent it again with this one.Waitingonstamp4 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:50 amCongratulations! That’s great news!
Was this the application you sent in?
http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/form-RES ... m-RES6.pdf